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PyongyangKipperbang · 22/09/2026 19:44

Taken from a book I found today in a charity shop. So much to say that its hard to know where to start!

The Radio Doctor's Dictionary of Health by Charles Hill, published in 1952.

There may or many not be seven stages of man. There are certainly three phases in the life of a woman. The first is the phase of childhood which passes with the physical and mental changes occurring at puberty into the second or middle phase of womanhood.
The third phase begins, usually between the ages of forty and forty-five, with the so-called menopause or change of life. Puberty, which may begin at the age of twelve or thirteen, come on with amazing quickness. The menopause on the other hand, develops slowly and deliberately. It marks the end of menstruation which first becomes irregular and later disappears. The change of life completed, there can no longer be childbearing.
The menopause is marked by both mental and physical changes. The warmth of physical feelings gives way to the calmness of serene affection, and quite often to a wider interest in the affairs of the world. The change may take one or two years, varying in length in different people. The reproductive organs, no longer functioning, become smaller. There may be symptoms which for a while unpleasant. For example, there may be sweating and giddiness, heats or flushes. These sensations may come on without warning. For most women, this is all that happens. Occasionally, however, there may be trying headaches and uneasy sensations, particularly in the breasts. At this time some women begin to put on weight. Much more rarely there are nervous troubles, particularly amongst those whose days are too leisured.
What can be done? For the most part, nothing need be done. It is best, though this is not always easy, to ignore what is happening and to carry on a normal life. The sympathy of others is no good. Giving in is a mistake. The less notice is taken of the change of life, the more quickly it seems to pass.
It helps to cut down diet, although nowadays our rations do that for us. Alcohol affords no relief. Indeed, it may make matters worse rather than better. The change of life, it must be remembered, is a normal, natural thing. It is not an illness or the beginning of an illness. It's a milestone, not a millstone.
The change may bring with it a release of energy, a need for activity in many new directions. Occasionally it makes a woman appear a little too managing, because she is filled with a desire to reform the lives of other. But most women suffer little or nothing. Eighty-five out of every hundred women pass through the menopause without being troubled by it. This is the occasion for an important warning. If the periods, having stopped, should appear to start again, a doctor should always be consulted,. There may be something wrong.

The third phase of life is sometimes the richest phase, the one in which to find tranquillity, and a full peaceful happiness.

OP posts:
OsfameronTanamoril · 23/09/2026 09:44

I have got a little absent-minded- not too much- but have also had a real creative renaissance, now that I have no childcare and periods to worry about. I have achieved some huge career milestones after 45. Women like me also exist.

But the overwhelming narrative is that ALL women in menopause are bungling idiots.

CurdinHenry · 23/09/2026 09:32

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · 22/09/2026 23:06

Some will. Why are you being a dick about that?

Why are you trying to make me look like I'm going to be useless as an employee in an already sexist world? Being female isn't a disability.

Additup · 23/09/2026 09:27

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 23/09/2026 08:27

And even those who think they're sailing through it with no problems need to know about the changes they can't feel. However stable your mood, however relieved you are to leave sanpro behind, you still share the underlying changes that increase your cardiovascular risk and damage your musculoskeletal system.

This is very true. I completely sailed through and only discovered I had early signs of vaginal atrophy during a hysteroscopy for post menopause bleeding. I started vaginal/vulval oestrogen and even though I had had no obvious symptoms I felt a positive difference in sensation very quickly. I hate to think what could have happened if I'd not had that hysteroscopy.

Also, post menopause I had increasing issues with joint pain/muscle spasms I thought were just signs of getting older. HRT cured both in a week.

GarlicSomething · 23/09/2026 09:25

Newsenmum · 23/09/2026 09:15

What do they mean sexual organs shrink? What part? I cant picture it!

All of them. Ovaries shrivel, uterus loses elasticity and may shrink, lining of the vagina gets very thin and it loses elasticity, clitoris shrinks. The labia may seem to get bigger but that's because the surrounding area has shrunk. The urethra can also lose elasticity and shape, not helped by the reducing internal parts failing to support the bladder.

I shamelessly explained to my brothers, sisters and their partners about vaginal atrophy and the necessity for vaginal HRT. In a pub garden. Several of the nearby people were evidently listening carefully but trying not to look as if they were!

LuxuryWoman2020 · 23/09/2026 09:24

Newsenmum · 23/09/2026 09:15

What do they mean sexual organs shrink? What part? I cant picture it!

Vaginal atrophy. Yes your bits can shrivel up. It is treatable and reservable with estrogen cream.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/09/2026 09:22

Newsenmum · 23/09/2026 09:15

What do they mean sexual organs shrink? What part? I cant picture it!

This https://www.wsh.nhs.uk/CMS-Documents/Patient-leaflets/Gynaecology/6647-1-Atrophic-vaginitis-genitourinary-syndrome-of-the-menopause-GSM.pdf

in some women labial lips and clitoris will almost disappear if left untreated. Fortunately these days we have vaginal estrogen which will sort it

https://www.wsh.nhs.uk/CMS-Documents/Patient-leaflets/Gynaecology/6647-1-Atrophic-vaginitis-genitourinary-syndrome-of-the-menopause-GSM.pdf

Pointynoseowner · 23/09/2026 09:20

Wonderful stuff 🤣🤣 Thank you

Newsenmum · 23/09/2026 09:15

What do they mean sexual organs shrink? What part? I cant picture it!

InNewYorkNoShoes · 23/09/2026 09:15

If I saw Charles back when he wrote his book romanticising menopause or even if I saw him today I would kick him in the balls.
Probably because I haven’t slept, I have young children, elderly parents plus a million other things going on. I still have to work and clean my house and pay bills.
Write all that in your bloody book Charles!

OsfameronTanamoril · 23/09/2026 09:12

RampantIvy · 23/09/2026 09:05

Well said.
I have seen several threads on here from women dreading the menopause. There needs to be more balance. Some women have a dreadful time of it and some just sail through it. I think most women are somewhere in between.

The panic about it and the menpause influencers have gone a bit overboard. We could use more HRT education.
I had to stop listening to some mid-life podcasts because they made menopausal women out to be complete and utter idiots, incapable of doing the smallest task.

RampantIvy · 23/09/2026 09:05

EndorsingPRActice · 23/09/2026 07:54

Well yes it is annoyingly phrased but a lot is spot on for my experience. I don't like the way you are supposed to gloss over it but then again I equally don't like the exaggerated downsides that have been so high profile for the last decade, I've found them a bit of a problem at work where people assume I'm useless. I'm 59 and I genuinely feel calmer and more capable than ever before, if a bit physically past it!

Well said.
I have seen several threads on here from women dreading the menopause. There needs to be more balance. Some women have a dreadful time of it and some just sail through it. I think most women are somewhere in between.

Seriestwo · 23/09/2026 08:44

I think Dr Hill sounds compassionate , there was no HRT to prescribe for women, really there was nothing to be done other than sympathise that these symptoms were crap but this too shall pass.

WynkenDeWorde · 23/09/2026 08:36

Edited because of unnoticed double post - sorry. But do enjoy the second photo of Dr Hill/Mr Cholmondeley-Warner!

To share this gem about the menopause with you all!
WynkenDeWorde · 23/09/2026 08:27

Who mentioned Mr Cholmondeley-Warner? 😂

Charles Hill was ‘the Radio Doctor’, whose broadcasts on the BBC throughout WW2 were seen as vital to informing the public about health, so opining on women’s health in paternalistic style was very much his thing.
He was Secretary of the BMA and, after the war, a Tory MP (and I’ve just discovered he lived quite close where I do now).

To share this gem about the menopause with you all!
BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 23/09/2026 08:27

concertinacornflake · 23/09/2026 06:27

It's the increased support that prevents it going to shit. How do people learn what support they can access without there being discussion and information about it?

And even those who think they're sailing through it with no problems need to know about the changes they can't feel. However stable your mood, however relieved you are to leave sanpro behind, you still share the underlying changes that increase your cardiovascular risk and damage your musculoskeletal system.

Theresmagicwheretheflowersgrow · 23/09/2026 08:04

mumumental · 22/09/2026 21:44

I could agree more, but it causes uproar to say so publicly. My own menopause was nothing, really.

Mine was the same, I was young though, not even 40 - maybe that helped.

EndorsingPRActice · 23/09/2026 07:54

Well yes it is annoyingly phrased but a lot is spot on for my experience. I don't like the way you are supposed to gloss over it but then again I equally don't like the exaggerated downsides that have been so high profile for the last decade, I've found them a bit of a problem at work where people assume I'm useless. I'm 59 and I genuinely feel calmer and more capable than ever before, if a bit physically past it!

Ponoka7 · 23/09/2026 07:13

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/09/2026 00:02

This really irritates me!

Yes it happened, but no where near as often as people these days seem to think.

Mum has a baby at 40 (considered perfectly normal these days) but also has a 16 year old DD, MN decides that it must have been the DD's child.

In the days before women could control their own fertility, late pregnancy was very common. My father's family was strict Catholic, having a child and a grandchild the same age was considered so usual as to not raise comment, its just how it was.

As I posted above, my Great Grandmother gave birth to twins when her only DD was already three months pregnant (Grandma was 17). "Change" babies were very very common!

Being a strict Catholic doesn't stop incest, or rape/coercion from other sources. My Catholic GM was born 1910, she was a very honest woman and so were the friends she chose. It can irritate you all you want, it doesn't change history. She also spoke about the scandals of the illegitimate/disabled children being left to die by the Nuns. There was a girl of around 7 being sexually abused via one of the local prostitutes, this was in Acton. My GM took her, my grandfather went to the courthouse and swore that he was her father. It was that easy. My GM had also aided abortions. Not everyone agreed with what went on around them and how the priests dictated how women should suffer, that included sending unmarried, pregnant girls away.

Alondra · 23/09/2026 07:02

Thank you for posting this OP. It gave me a smile.

I with much of what Chester Hill posted. Aside from the dreaded hot flashes, never had bigger issues with menopause.

It's written in a clear, almost simplistic way, but refreshing because of it. Aside from the obvious different times (most women are working full time today and stress levels are different), and the also obvious medical advances done in over 60 years, it reads very matter of fact.

I was on the pill for many years and didn't know I was in menopause except the sudden hot flushes. I saw my GP to get a new pill prescription, mentioned the flushes, and was told to get blood tests because she thought I could be menopausal. The blood tests confirmed it.

I knew it was a change it had to happen as part of being a woman but never gave it too much importance. If anything, I welcomed not dealing with pads and tampons every month. Never had fluctuating moods, or rage, and went on my daily life as usual.

GarlicSomething · 23/09/2026 06:48

Jiggerypokesy · 23/09/2026 06:39

Don’t know how far down the road you are but mine came back!

Ha. Mine sends a jolly postcard two or three times a year, saying "Remember me? We had some good times, didn't we!"

I'm blaming the antidepressants, but who knows why it really left and isn't coming back. I've got to admit there's zero to no chance of showing it a good time in my present circumstances, so it's probably for the best 😏

Jiggerypokesy · 23/09/2026 06:47

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/09/2026 02:13

I think it’s unfortunate that there’s been so much publicity about this that people forget that for many women it really is no problem at all.

I think that it is unfortunate that for so long, it was assumed that because some women sail through it, many dont. And of course many do suffer but get not help or treatment so have to battle on in silence. Its the same issue with periods, endometriosis, PCOS etc. They are written off by men, who never have to suffer and women who could have suffered but luckily for them, didnt.

Menopause can cause such appalling problems including, but not limited to, depression, more serious MH issues, marriage breakdowns, osteoporosis and so on.

I am glad, genuinely glad, that you didnt suffer but I beg you not to dismiss the sufferings of those that did as if they didnt "keep calm and carry on" hard enough.

It’s even worse when other women dismiss it as if they’re clearly not trying hard enough. It’s the same as those who don’t have bad periods or found childbirth easy. It doesn’t mean that those women who have suffered debilitating physical and psychological symptoms are making it up or exaggerating how difficult it was for them.

Why is it unfortunate anyway? If you didn’t suffer much then the publicity about it that is there to inform other women doesn’t affect you. Think yourself lucky, have some compassion for those other women and frankly shut up (the PP not you Pyongyang).

Jiggerypokesy · 23/09/2026 06:39

PyongyangKipperbang · 23/09/2026 00:50

Yeah thats how I took it and in my case it's true. My libido packed its cases, thanked me for our years together and jumped off a cliff.

I am envious of women who didnt get that.

Don’t know how far down the road you are but mine came back!

Jiggerypokesy · 23/09/2026 06:36

VickyEadie · 22/09/2026 19:55

"The warmth of physical feelings gives way to the calmness of serene affection, and quite often to a wider interest in the affairs of the world."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm 16 years post-menopause. I still have the RAGE.

😡😬👿

I wanted to add a few HAHAHAHHAs!

Surely this man can’t have any scientific and/or medical qualifications. It is based on no scientific methodology whatsoever. It’s horrifying to think that women were gaslit like this.

When I was young ‘the change’ like seemingly any physical phenomenon related to women seemed to be: something whispered about as if we’re supposed to be ashamed of it ‘she’s going through the change’ said in the same tones as ‘he’s murdered his mother’. There was seemingly no support or proper advice about how to manage it and women didn’t seem to share war stories and laugh about it. There was certainly no thought of accommodation at work.

I love the fact that women are now doing one women comedy shows about it. They talk out and proud about the symptoms and how to manage them. In particular no one told me when I went through that anxiety was a big part of it. I would have been a lot less stressed about the fact that for a while I lost my confidence in doing the simplest things like ringing up for an appointment or similar.

As for the rage it’s a wonderful thing for those of us who’ve people pleased our way through life. As someone who had the urge to nurture left right and centre it’s very liberating.

I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR EGO AND YOUR GRUMPINESS ANY LONGER.

concertinacornflake · 23/09/2026 06:27

Bunnycat101 · 23/09/2026 06:05

In some ways, I quite like the no nonsense aspect. While I think it’s good there is more support now for those who struggle, all the activity around menopause is really making it something to fear. I feel like I’ve just got through the more intense periods of child raising and now there is a narrative that soon everything will go to shit. It’s all just a bit depressing.

It's the increased support that prevents it going to shit. How do people learn what support they can access without there being discussion and information about it?

Bunnycat101 · 23/09/2026 06:05

In some ways, I quite like the no nonsense aspect. While I think it’s good there is more support now for those who struggle, all the activity around menopause is really making it something to fear. I feel like I’ve just got through the more intense periods of child raising and now there is a narrative that soon everything will go to shit. It’s all just a bit depressing.