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To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

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CoventryCity · 22/09/2026 10:14

A continuation of Thread 1.

Strong words but is is how I feel at this point in time. All of them make me feel physically sick. Why? Well many reasons.. Here are just two.

Eg. They won't release sex crime statistics of immigrants / asylum seekers. Why? Other European countries have done, and it is not pretty. Our gvt gives out a leaflet asking them not to rape the locals. Why? Our gvt has said they won't house asylum seekers next to schools and nurseries, why?

Eg. UK now spends more on benefits than it earns in income tax. Labour have increased this - not reduced it. Astonishing. As they say - "Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others?" That's Labour's Welfare Secretary. He's describing the priorities of Labour MPs.

In the last financial year, the UK government brought in £331 billion in income tax — and spent even more, £333 billion, on welfare, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility's latest economic and fiscal outlook (obr.uk/efo/economic-and-fiscal-outlook-march-2026/#chapter-6).

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LuckyHazelFox · 24/09/2026 15:36

BIossomtoes · 24/09/2026 15:34

My name was also mentioned. 🤷‍♀️

Oh was it?

CoventryCity · 24/09/2026 15:35

LuckyHazelFox · 24/09/2026 15:33

Oh well. Where were we?

😂🤷‍♀️

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CoventryCity · 24/09/2026 15:34

ilovesooty · 24/09/2026 11:08

What do you mean by "more your bag"?

Well blossom talks about that man not having the same culture as her or ‘anyone else she knows’ and said ‘he probably doesn’t belong here’.

I don’t like the guy but found blossoms attack on him rather hypocritical. So I wondered who did have the same culture as her ‘and anyone else she knows’, and who did belong. I used the commonly known phrase ‘more your bag?’ instead of writing a few sentences. I was just trying to work it out, you see.

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BIossomtoes · 24/09/2026 15:34

LuckyHazelFox · 24/09/2026 15:33

It's creepy as fuck. No surprise to see my name mentioned. Obsessed. Sure she's getting some pats on the back through personal reactions.

My name was also mentioned. 🤷‍♀️

LuckyHazelFox · 24/09/2026 15:33

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Oh well. Where were we?

LuckyHazelFox · 24/09/2026 15:33

Somerford · 24/09/2026 15:30

Chat GPT is full of shit anyway. I just asked it for a summary of myself and it said I must be quite irritating to argue with. Ridiculous.

It's creepy as fuck. No surprise to see my name mentioned. Obsessed. Sure she's getting some pats on the back through personal reactions.

Somerford · 24/09/2026 15:30

EasternStandard · 24/09/2026 11:24

Interesting that you’d do this. I’ve seen posts re people using AI in this way on specific posters.

Probably better to try to counter without this.

Chat GPT is full of shit anyway. I just asked it for a summary of myself and it said I must be quite irritating to argue with. Ridiculous.

CoventryCity · 24/09/2026 15:28

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CoventryCity · 24/09/2026 15:26

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:12

It is. It shows the vast number of offences are committed by non-foreign nationals. This is not the exact same 12 months but no reason to think the figures wouldn't be broadly similar:

Between 1 September 2023 and 30 September 2024, there were 11,075 crimes recorded that were not subsequently cancelled and were classified as sexual offences.

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/freedom-of-information/october-2024-foi-2238645-24-rape-and-sexual-offences

‘It is. It shows the vast number of offences are committed by non-foreign nationals. ’

🤣 Guess you don’t understand proportionality or maybe you prefer per capita. Either way it clearly flies over your head. Useful that innit.

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LuckyHazelFox · 24/09/2026 15:26

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WTAF are you going on about?

placemats · 24/09/2026 15:24

Teddybear23 · 24/09/2026 14:18

Why? He's only trying to stop the boats because the government won't!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/sep/24/police-arrest-far-right-activist-daniel-thomas-after-dinghy-slashed-channel

He's a violent man. In 2016 Thomas was one of three men jailed after being convicted for his role in the attempted armed kidnapping of a man over a £10,000 drugs dispute on Hayling Island, Hampshire.

Police arrest far-right activist Daniel Thomas after ‘dinghy slashed in Channel’

Thirty-seven-year-old in custody on suspicion of crimes including criminal damage with intent to endanger life

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/sep/24/police-arrest-far-right-activist-daniel-thomas-after-dinghy-slashed-channel

5128gap · 24/09/2026 14:31

Teddybear23 · 24/09/2026 14:18

Why? He's only trying to stop the boats because the government won't!

Because we can't go round endangering the lives of emergency rescue workers by slashing their boats in a deliberate attempt to sink them every time we are cross with the government. Can we?

ilovesooty · 24/09/2026 14:26

Teddybear23 · 24/09/2026 14:18

Why? He's only trying to stop the boats because the government won't!

And that involves slashing a dinghy with a French rescue worker on it? I hope he's charged, convicted and goes to prison.

Gtfto2024 · 24/09/2026 14:24

Teddybear23 · 24/09/2026 14:18

Why? He's only trying to stop the boats because the government won't!

This is clearly not true from all the evidence previously posted here and on earlier threads.

Probably all fake news that the government would say though.

Teddybear23 · 24/09/2026 14:18

placemats · 22/09/2026 23:16

Fantastic and about time.

Why? He's only trying to stop the boats because the government won't!

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:52

RedTagAlan · 24/09/2026 12:43

It's not the same thing as has been discussed. It is arrests, not convictions.

Is that what you mean ?

No, I mean the FOI reply has a mistake it in.

The question is: Please could you provide me with a breakdown of the nationalities of foreign nationals arrested for alleged sexual offences since 1 January 2024.

The reply is:
Please see the table below showing Charges for rape and sexual assault, for all non-UK nationals, 01/01/2024 to 31/12/2024.

But the table provided shows arrests not charges. So is the reply wrong or is the table wrongly labelled? My guess is the former, but it is very sloppy of them.

Eta: but you are right, either way the reply is not about convictions.

RedTagAlan · 24/09/2026 12:43

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:27

There is a mistake in that reply and it is an important one.

It's not the same thing as has been discussed. It is arrests, not convictions.

Is that what you mean ?

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:39

EasternStandard · 24/09/2026 11:24

Interesting that you’d do this. I’ve seen posts re people using AI in this way on specific posters.

Probably better to try to counter without this.

It is a pretty fair analysis. And not against Talk Guidelines so fine to be on here.

EasternStandard · 24/09/2026 12:38

RedTagAlan · 24/09/2026 12:33

Well. The whole labour voting against the Farage amendment thing appears to have been dropped. That is something where it comes to truth surely ?

As for the semantics about internal or external. Carry on as you please. I already thanked you for the correction.

And yet your subsequent posts were still muddled. If you’re now accepting that then great.

The reason Labour look like they are hiding this data is due to the appeal rather than releasing, as below it is very rare to choose to do that and not to be transparent even if it’s not liked.

Although looking at that Yorkshire list that’s probably their reason. MoJ data would definitely hit the press.

RedTagAlan · 24/09/2026 12:33

EasternStandard · 24/09/2026 12:24

You’ve accepted it’s the first tier tribunal already, that it’s not an internal review and that you were muddled on that. Plus all there is to do is wait and see.

Fortunately the tribunal favours transparency even if Labour and supporters dislike that.

It looks more likely they’ll have to publish but we’ll see.

Well. The whole labour voting against the Farage amendment thing appears to have been dropped. That is something where it comes to truth surely ?

As for the semantics about internal or external. Carry on as you please. I already thanked you for the correction.

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:27

CoventryCity · 24/09/2026 11:53

This is interesting. Yorkshire Police have responded to a FoI request asking about sex crimes nationalities. Yorkshire Police has a background in all this after all, so they’ve done the right thing for once.

02/2025
FOI reference
FOI 2355119-25
We received a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA):

Please could you provide me with a breakdown of the nationalities of foreign nationals arrested for alleged sexual offences since 1 January 2024.

Our Response:
Please see the table below showing Charges for rape and sexual assault, for all non-UK nationals, 01/01/2024 to 31/12/2024.

Not had time to look at this in detail yet, but the table is interesting.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/freedom-of-information/february-2025-foi-2355119-25-sexual-crimes-committed-non-uk-nationals

There is a mistake in that reply and it is an important one.

EasternStandard · 24/09/2026 12:24

RedTagAlan · 24/09/2026 12:20

Do I want to change anything ? Did I say that ?

Nope. Actually, my interest is truth, and debating against misinformation. That is why I used to debate flat earthers. Although you dismissed that as irrelevant, then accused me of posting misinformation.

Have you noticed that I do not post conclusions without also posting evidence, and a bit of reasoning, that leads to any conclusions I make ?

I wont say things such as you did above, quote" It takes more effort and cost to appeal than publish.". Because where did the data for that come from?

I have not said if I think there is a coverup or not. I am just collecting information, and posting it. It seems this is normal procedural stuff with this FOI request. Me saying that is not me reaching a conclusion and stating it.

Some posters on the other hand, do appear to have a conclusion no matter what. And any info posted that might challenge that conclusion, is dismissed as misinformation.

Ad Hominems are par for the course.

You’ve accepted it’s the first tier tribunal already, that it’s not an internal review and that you were muddled on that. Plus all there is to do is wait and see.

Fortunately the tribunal favours transparency even if Labour and supporters dislike that.

It looks more likely they’ll have to publish but we’ll see.

RedTagAlan · 24/09/2026 12:20

EasternStandard · 24/09/2026 11:51

Not sure his posts will change much.

Do I want to change anything ? Did I say that ?

Nope. Actually, my interest is truth, and debating against misinformation. That is why I used to debate flat earthers. Although you dismissed that as irrelevant, then accused me of posting misinformation.

Have you noticed that I do not post conclusions without also posting evidence, and a bit of reasoning, that leads to any conclusions I make ?

I wont say things such as you did above, quote" It takes more effort and cost to appeal than publish.". Because where did the data for that come from?

I have not said if I think there is a coverup or not. I am just collecting information, and posting it. It seems this is normal procedural stuff with this FOI request. Me saying that is not me reaching a conclusion and stating it.

Some posters on the other hand, do appear to have a conclusion no matter what. And any info posted that might challenge that conclusion, is dismissed as misinformation.

Ad Hominems are par for the course.

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:20

BIWI · 24/09/2026 12:10

... and is that data for all UK or just West Yorkshire?

Just West Yorkshire I think? There is a portal for all their FOIs:

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/freedom-of-information?page=30

TemperanceWest · 24/09/2026 12:12

CoventryCity · 24/09/2026 11:53

This is interesting. Yorkshire Police have responded to a FoI request asking about sex crimes nationalities. Yorkshire Police has a background in all this after all, so they’ve done the right thing for once.

02/2025
FOI reference
FOI 2355119-25
We received a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 (FOIA):

Please could you provide me with a breakdown of the nationalities of foreign nationals arrested for alleged sexual offences since 1 January 2024.

Our Response:
Please see the table below showing Charges for rape and sexual assault, for all non-UK nationals, 01/01/2024 to 31/12/2024.

Not had time to look at this in detail yet, but the table is interesting.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/freedom-of-information/february-2025-foi-2355119-25-sexual-crimes-committed-non-uk-nationals

It is. It shows the vast number of offences are committed by non-foreign nationals. This is not the exact same 12 months but no reason to think the figures wouldn't be broadly similar:

Between 1 September 2023 and 30 September 2024, there were 11,075 crimes recorded that were not subsequently cancelled and were classified as sexual offences.

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/freedom-of-information/october-2024-foi-2238645-24-rape-and-sexual-offences

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