To absolutely hate this government, and what they are doing to our country? PART 2

Does it not make equally logical sense to think that some men are dangerous to women, and such men are found in every ethnicity and nationality? But when in countries where VAWG is tolerated, these men do not bother to moderate themselves in the way western men predisposed to this behaviour may do to avoid the consequences? And it is this that leads to the disparity, rather than an inate greater propensity to the behaviour amongst some ethnicities and nationalities?

Why don't people understand that we have bad domestic men here. But crime rates here (in general) are far lower than in the rest of the world.

Womens rights and VAWG are worse in Afghanistan,. Somalia and Sudan compared to the UK. Does it not make logical sense that if VAWG is higher in certain nations that maybe the men of those nations coming to the liberal west may pose some threat

No at all. The ICO rejected Labour’s cost and data sensitivity claims.

Hence Labour having to appeal to try to avoid the release of data. The tribunal will start soon and if Labour lose they’ll have to publish.

Again, it's one freedom of information request for one specific piece of information. It's not a blanket ban on government information being refused.

If someone reasonable genuinely wanted the bulk of the information they would work with the ico to access it.

No at all. The ICO rejected Labour’s cost and data sensitivity claims.

Hence Labour having to appeal to try to avoid the release of data. The tribunal will start soon and if Labour lose they’ll have to publish.

I’m sorry you seem to think that we are in agreement. We are not. Women and children in the UK are more at risk of white angry men than immigrants. Your sentiments and opinions disgust me and are not supported by statistics

It's a lazy blanket accusation to keep you quiet. More fools the people who let themselves be bullied.

No misunderstanding, @RedTagAlan was very clear. It's easy to see from reading all the comments that the whole thing was being misrepresented by the op claiming that the government was trying to hide figures. The evidence presented certainly clarified this as the explanation and corrections were clear.

Trying to present a specific freedom of information request refusal as government hiding information is farcical.

My last comment was for @LuckyHazelFox personally. My contribution to this thread has been a placemark and a casual comment about my Huguenot origins. I have watched it lurch into some incredibly unpleasant vituperative zones that I want to distance myself from as much as possible.

I'm fairly firmly right wing economically, as in I will vote pro-business most of the time, with a long list of scrutiny and provisos.

But please do not ever extrapolate that position to suggest that I consider the colour of a person's skin a sufficient basis for a character judgment. I would take serious offense if you/anyone did that.

Yes you didn’t specify on the tribunal process. Some misunderstanding there from pp’s.

Night night.

I'm fairly firmly right wing economically, as in I will vote pro-business most of the time, with a long list of scrutiny and provisos.

But please do not ever extrapolate that position to suggest that I consider the colour of a person's skin a sufficient basis for a character judgment. I would take serious offense if you/anyone did that.

I'm fairly firmly right wing economically, as in I will vote pro-business most of the time, with a long list of scrutiny and provisos.

But please do not ever extrapolate that position to suggest that I consider the colour of a person's skin a sufficient basis for a character judgment. I would take serious offense if you/anyone did that.

I agree with this.
Whatever the figures show, the disclosure will be used to ramp up hostility. Because if they are high the fear mongering will be off the scale, and if they're not, then it will be framed as a government conspiracy with figures doctored. OP is prepping for this already with talk of 'redactions'.
Whatever, its going to become increasingly risky for people who are not percieved to be white British.
Because the 'protesters' are not all discerning and are not all the brightest. We've already had them harassing a cricket team because they were brown, young, male and on a coach; and black British children terrorised when a summer camp was mistaken for a refugee camp and the children's Welsh accents mistaken for 'foreign' ones.
No one with any sense or decency should be calling to fuel this fire.

I completely understand why her family would want that, and I also recognise that transparency might be the best way to stop misinformation spreading. But I do also understand the need to cautious about statistics being stripped of context and weaponised by certain groups to inflame anti-immigrant sentiment, stoke community tensions and even excuse violence. There’s already so much heat around this: I’m sure everyone here was horrified by the footage of protestors - some of whom seemed to have young children with them - shouting, “let them drown” through loud speakers. I think it’s complex, and I don’t think pretending it isn’t helps anyone.

I agree - more of that and less of the chat GPT.

Such a sensible, level-headed post. We need more of this.

I completely understand why her family would want that, and I also recognise that transparency might be the best way to stop misinformation spreading. But I do also understand the need to cautious about statistics being stripped of context and weaponised by certain groups to inflame anti-immigrant sentiment, stoke community tensions and even excuse violence. There’s already so much heat around this: I’m sure everyone here was horrified by the footage of protestors - some of whom seemed to have young children with them - shouting, “let them drown” through loud speakers. I think it’s complex, and I don’t think pretending it isn’t helps anyone.