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To be disappointed Dolly Parton supported biological men using women's toilets?

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Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 00:44

I really liked her music and she seemed like a nice person: her Imagination Library came to my borough recently. I was very sad to hear she'd died.
But was very disappointed to read this. The statements she made about trans people deserving respect, no issue with those.
But minimising the reasonable concerns women have about being forced to let men in their toilets was wrong.
I'm not saying she should have spoken out for GC issues. It might have been best just not to comment.
Parton had connections with drag queens and I wonder if that's the lens she saw transwomen through : not an excuse but might partially explain.

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MaggieBsBoat · 25/09/2026 14:38

I’m as GC as they come but I’m not going to worry about someone who did a lot of good disagreeing with me.

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:35

Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:19

Calling everyone who disagrees with them a trans rights activist shows how brainrotted some people can get when they go down and online rabbit hole. They resort to black and white thinking where people are either on their side or enemies, and it's so single issue focused. It's a thought terminating cliche so they can write off anything that triggers a dissonance between reality and their perception. It's sad but common in loads of people radicalised online by a bunch of different issues.

Agree.

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:34

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:18

Well...

You're a person who can give a lived experience of trans women in women's prisons.

I follow a woman with your experiences on twitter.

A bit worse though. She has been in every women's prison in Scotland apart from Greenock.

Like you, she just has a normal life now but posts in support of trans women. She said they were the least of her worries in prison.

Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:31

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · 24/09/2026 23:14

I think I missed my calling. I should be a psychic 😁
Had a bet on by myself that the regulars would be all here by the end all talking to themselves and that Erish would come in for the last few pages.
And here we are 😁
(Can't find a Mystic Meg or Septic Peg gif, ah well)

Please give us the lottery numbers next 🔮

Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:28

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:22

Definitely radicalised. Especially the ones who seem to know when a woman posts she is ok with trans people, then five minutes later is like a storm of locusts.

Exactly this is what I meant with the similarities for any feminist online who dealt with the trolling, abuse and doxxing by mens rights activities online before. The online behaviours are strikingly similar. But it's just coincidence.

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Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:23

RhiWrites · 25/09/2026 08:23

Google also exists. I am boggled that someone would openly admit to never having heard of second wave feminism and not even look it up.

Weird that some people so invested in saving women's rights but admit they're not even aware of basic feminist theory / history.

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:22

Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:19

Calling everyone who disagrees with them a trans rights activist shows how brainrotted some people can get when they go down and online rabbit hole. They resort to black and white thinking where people are either on their side or enemies, and it's so single issue focused. It's a thought terminating cliche so they can write off anything that triggers a dissonance between reality and their perception. It's sad but common in loads of people radicalised online by a bunch of different issues.

Definitely radicalised. Especially the ones who seem to know when a woman posts she is ok with trans people, then five minutes later is like a storm of locusts.

Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:19

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:05

I’ve gathered that TRA is a name for inclusive feminists. We’re all activists apparently. No idea what TRA adjacent means though 😳

Calling everyone who disagrees with them a trans rights activist shows how brainrotted some people can get when they go down and online rabbit hole. They resort to black and white thinking where people are either on their side or enemies, and it's so single issue focused. It's a thought terminating cliche so they can write off anything that triggers a dissonance between reality and their perception. It's sad but common in loads of people radicalised online by a bunch of different issues.

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:18

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 14:17

Christ that’s unhinged!

Well...

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 14:17

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:15

It started with them bringing in my views on trans people to a thread about a single mother dating, then she started searching through my posts and she brought up my past in prison and my marriage, then she started saying that I am fraudulently claiming benefits and a bursary at my son's private school.

Around the same time, someone else was posting what I thought were genuine posts in my threads and giving me other mentions. I'd reply in good faith and then their message would be deleted. I think they must have been sock puppets or something. You can see some of it at the end of my AMA thread.

It was all very weird. A few posts by a few posters over different days that kept bringing my views and opinions from other threads, especially trans ones, to unrelated threads.

MN were on the ball though and deleted any I reported plus ones that I didn't even know were problematic.

Christ that’s unhinged!

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:16

NotNowFGS · 25/09/2026 14:13

I am disappointed in any woman who is not on the side of women. Famous or not, whether I know them or not. Disappointed that they actively prioritise men's needs above those of their own sex. Or disappointed that they've not thought critically enough to see the difference. Or because they are just following the herd in the virtue signalling stampede today.

Disappointed isn't a strong enough word, come to think of it.

So do you think any woman who is smart and good will agree with you, and women who do not lack critical thinking?

Soupsavior · 25/09/2026 14:15

Igneococcus · 25/09/2026 07:35

Hang on, the sort of feminist whose feminism includes men as long as they think they are women are opposed to men posting on FWR?

It's laughable people keep saying "the people who's feminism includes men" as some kind of dit when describing feminists who include everyone who believes in equality and dignity and respect between the sexes. If rather that then try to claim to be feminist but I spend my spare time slagging off other women online as handmaidens, dick panderers with a bunch of men.

It wouldn't matter if people didn't try to paint FWR as all women concerned about women's rights and didn't get so offended whenever people point how much it's requested by men and is becoming more misogynistic to women considered "dim" ( which in most cases is a successful intelligent woman holding her own opinion) but sure those people have women's rights in hand 🙄

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:15

It started with them bringing in my views on trans people to a thread about a single mother dating, then she started searching through my posts and she brought up my past in prison and my marriage, then she started saying that I am fraudulently claiming benefits and a bursary at my son's private school.

Around the same time, someone else was posting what I thought were genuine posts in my threads and giving me other mentions. I'd reply in good faith and then their message would be deleted. I think they must have been sock puppets or something. You can see some of it at the end of my AMA thread.

It was all very weird. A few posts by a few posters over different days that kept bringing my views and opinions from other threads, especially trans ones, to unrelated threads.

MN were on the ball though and deleted any I reported plus ones that I didn't even know were problematic.

NotNowFGS · 25/09/2026 14:13

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:08

Anyway, imagine being “disappointed” about a person you didn’t know personally but who has passed away. WTF?

I am disappointed in any woman who is not on the side of women. Famous or not, whether I know them or not. Disappointed that they actively prioritise men's needs above those of their own sex. Or disappointed that they've not thought critically enough to see the difference. Or because they are just following the herd in the virtue signalling stampede today.

Disappointed isn't a strong enough word, come to think of it.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 14:11

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Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:08

Anyway, imagine being “disappointed” about a person you didn’t know personally but who has passed away. WTF?

Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 14:05

I’ve gathered that TRA is a name for inclusive feminists. We’re all activists apparently. No idea what TRA adjacent means though 😳

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 14:05

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:04

Many posters have told me that they've searched me up. One person recently told me she knows who I am offline and she will be reporting me.

Why?

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:04

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Many posters have told me that they've searched me up. One person recently told me she knows who I am offline and she will be reporting me.

AnnHedonia · 25/09/2026 14:04

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:02

Anyone who isn't explicitly against trans people or would defend their right to a peaceful existence.

Anyone who doesn't hate trans people, in other words.

Lexibletheflexible · 25/09/2026 14:02

AnnHedonia · 25/09/2026 14:00

What exactly is 'TRA adjacent' when it's at home? 🤔

Anyone who isn't explicitly against trans people or would defend their right to a peaceful existence.

AnnHedonia · 25/09/2026 14:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/09/2026 21:43

It’s why DARVO is so effective. It’s not really irony. It’s a deliberate choice for TRAs and the TRA adjacent.

What exactly is 'TRA adjacent' when it's at home? 🤔

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 13:43

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Differentforgirls · 25/09/2026 13:40

over50andfab · 25/09/2026 13:22

I agree. If I don't understand a term I'd go off and google, and then if I wanted further clarification I'd ask and take on board the response.
Asking in here and then when explanation/links are offered responding dismissively that they don't give a fuck is disingenuous and just comes across as goady and trying to wind people up. Usually done by people unable to have a proper discussion. I'm seeing a trend.

If you do an advanced search it's illuminating to see which posters only post on this issue.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 25/09/2026 13:38

over50andfab · 25/09/2026 13:34

You asked, they answered, you CBA to read and said you didn't give a fuck anyway. It's all there to read by you and everyone else, much as my previous question to you that you didn't answer properly.

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They didn’t actually. Another poster gave a Wikipedia link, the bastion of accurate knowledge (note the sarcasm).

You asked what part of what Dolly said I had an issue with. I said I had no issue. Twice. Question answered (twice).

The FWR board and the posters on it life rent free in certain posters heads, it’s all they talk about. The rest of us are just plodding along trying to keep women’s hard fought for rights away from confused men and their supporters.

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