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To be disappointed Dolly Parton supported biological men using women's toilets?

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Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 00:44

I really liked her music and she seemed like a nice person: her Imagination Library came to my borough recently. I was very sad to hear she'd died.
But was very disappointed to read this. The statements she made about trans people deserving respect, no issue with those.
But minimising the reasonable concerns women have about being forced to let men in their toilets was wrong.
I'm not saying she should have spoken out for GC issues. It might have been best just not to comment.
Parton had connections with drag queens and I wonder if that's the lens she saw transwomen through : not an excuse but might partially explain.

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oizzle · 21/09/2026 07:31

You can’t agree with people all the time. Just because you don’t agree with someone on one issue doesn’t mean you have to cut them out, this is the problem with politics today, everything is so bipartisan.

Dolly Parton is my absolute idol, I’m GC, I understand how in her world she’s wasn’t (I’m sure someone has already raised her driver, the reason she was so empathetic to trans people).

So she wasn’t GC, so what. It’s not as if she wasn’t lobbying lawmakers and sports bodies to push trans people into protected spaces.

Just waiting for someone to cancel her for not speaking out against Israel.

TheSunIsAlwaysThere · 21/09/2026 07:28

Miaow.

BirdLandedonmyHead · 21/09/2026 07:21

In the UK, Womens Rights have been the driving factor.
In the US, its lumped in with Anti-Women and Anti-Gay policies.

Its natural that any philantrophic celebrity in the US will be supportive of the victims of those policies.

(From what ive seen... most people seem to be supportive of the new sports and orison policies, just not the "bathroom" issue as its called there)

HandPulledNoodles · 21/09/2026 07:20

It wouldn't be Mumsnet without a "trans" take on a subject,,, even so 3/10 for effort.

CroatiaSailing · 21/09/2026 07:15

Dolly mainly tried to stay politically neutral. She looked for the best in people and tried to spread some living kindness around. She had a faith in a loving God.

Yet we have the evangelical Christians quoting what she said and publicly saying it wasn’t biblical and now the gender critical purists quoting what she said and saying it doesn’t align exactly with their views.

I think it is sad that we live in a world so divided that a much loved, generous, kind and talented women can’t be allowed to rest in peace for a few weeks without these sort of public judgements being proclaimed.

Not everyone is going to agree exactly with any ideology. We are all doing our best to live as well as we can according to our own values. Let’s not spend our time being disappointed with everyone who doesn’t agree exactly with what we think.

BEAchDays2 · 21/09/2026 07:02

AStonedRose · 21/09/2026 06:50

The OP is interesting. It near enough literally says 'she should not have expressed a view that's different from the GC viewpoint'.

This is the hard right for you. it wants to shut down any expression of tolerance or decency. The 'GC' movement has strayed a long way from being anything to with protecting women's rights.

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BEAchDays2 · 21/09/2026 07:02

I’m embarrassed for you OP.

AStonedRose · 21/09/2026 06:50

The OP is interesting. It near enough literally says 'she should not have expressed a view that's different from the GC viewpoint'.

This is the hard right for you. it wants to shut down any expression of tolerance or decency. The 'GC' movement has strayed a long way from being anything to with protecting women's rights.

Theunamedcat · 21/09/2026 06:45

I get she grew up poor but it was a long time ago

rich people dont see the public bathroom sharing as an issue because it never affects them if they had to share they might think twice Which is why I tend to ignore their opinions on this subject

PuppyMonkey · 21/09/2026 06:36

She’s been dead less than 2 weeks for crying out loud!!!

I take the point being made here, but she’s actually been dead nearly four weeks. I remember it because it was the day I came back from holiday.

sanluca · 21/09/2026 06:20

She had a transwoman friend. She once said if she had been born male, she would have been a drag queen. She saw the good in people she liked. I don't think she thought about bad men who would take advantage of things like self id. Her experience was old school transsexuals.

Nobody is perfect. I just wish everybody realised that and respectful debate was possible.

malificent7 · 21/09/2026 05:49

This is an unusual response given that mumsnet is vehemently anti trans.
Dolly was great but I do not agree with her on the bathroom issue.
Dosn't mean that she wasn't a shining light.

PassTheCranberrySauce · 21/09/2026 05:45

ChocolateCinderToffee · 21/09/2026 03:27

She wasn’t wrong. The so-called ‘feminists’ who think trans women are not women are wrong. HTH.

They aren’t, they’re men.

I will never stop saying it, because it’s the objective, obvious truth.

over50andfab · 21/09/2026 04:59

Where does she explicitly say she supports biological men using women’s toilets and why do you feel the need to criticise her a couple of weeks after she’s died?

merrymelody · 21/09/2026 04:34

Pearl clutching.

Missey85 · 21/09/2026 04:32

Jane3212 · 21/09/2026 01:16

'in your eyes, she’s a disappointment because of something youve decided she didn’t speak up enough about??'

  • Please read my post accurately. I said : 'I'm not saying she should have spoken out for GC issues. It might have been best just not to comment.'

My issue was NOT that she didn't speak up about GC issues. My issue is that she supported biological men using women's toilets.

I'm sure dolly did a lot more good for this world than you did 😊 my friends kids loved getting a book each month from her ❤️❤️❤️

Littlegreywolfcub · 21/09/2026 04:26

Least of all Dolly Parton!

Littlegreywolfcub · 21/09/2026 04:26

@Jane3212 okaaay

No one really cares that you're 'disappointed' about this.

Ablushingcrow · 21/09/2026 04:21

ChocolateCinderToffee · 21/09/2026 03:27

She wasn’t wrong. The so-called ‘feminists’ who think trans women are not women are wrong. HTH.

What you mean is sane people who KNOW trans identifying men are NOT women.

KJK is not a feminist and as she says, I'm not a vet but I know what a dog is.

GreenEyesIsBack · 21/09/2026 04:09

ChocolateCinderToffee · 21/09/2026 03:27

She wasn’t wrong. The so-called ‘feminists’ who think trans women are not women are wrong. HTH.

Which part of the males are women?

Ablushingcrow · 21/09/2026 04:09

TheOriginalEmu · 21/09/2026 02:12

Clearly Dolly disagreed with you. You can be disappointed in that, but that was her opinion.

Well that's what OPs thread is about, it even says that in the title.

Ablushingcrow · 21/09/2026 04:03

TheOriginalEmu · 21/09/2026 02:01

or maybe she realised that bigotry is shit and she didn’t support it. You are being unreasonable to try and rationalise away her support of trans people to make it fit your own agenda.

What agenda? Not wanting men in women's spaces? Nothing bigoted about that.

The very act of crying 'bigot!' shows it is you that has an agenda. The agenda of allowing/wanting men in women and girls spaces.

Whatabouterry · 21/09/2026 03:50

Oh can we not let Dolly rest in peace? Really, out of everything she’s done, this is your hot take?

Tishtos · 21/09/2026 03:43

bittertwisted · 21/09/2026 03:18

I agree
then I can avoid the ongoing obsession with toilets and belief all men, especially ones in frocks, are fetished rapists

Agree with both of you - a lot of posters are obsessed with this topic on here.

The funny thing is someone could be two steps away from being Hitler but if they are GC those same posters will support &
praise that person, while criticising amazing people like Dolly Parton and saying what a disappointment it is.
And yeah would be good if they keep it to the feminism board.

Chickadee26 · 21/09/2026 03:33

I know one thing, she would not be gossiping about your beliefs online after you died. Move on.

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