To be disappointed Dolly Parton supported biological men using women's toilets?

No, it translates to you're motivated by hate and not worth my time.

otherwise translates to: I haven’t got an argument, so I’m not even going to attempt a response here.

at least you admit that gender is hard to define and “nuanced” whatever the hell that actually means.
(usually means it can’t be explained as it isn’t real)

No appetite for a pile on. I'm not your punchbag.

Id say she knows more than any of the posters on here about poverty ☹️ poverty too posters on here is not going on holiday let alone not getting any dinner on a regular basis

Would you agree that if one man can enter that space, it becomes much, much harder to keep others out?

Do you also accept that the trans lobby has specifically campaigned that a transwoman doesn't have to transition fully in order to be able to access the privelege of accessing female spaces?

In addition, do you also agree that transwomen commit violent crimes at the same rate as other men, and that they retain the same strength advantage as other men, so if they did decide to attack a women in a toilet the woman would not be able to defend themselves against an attack?

I've noticed her views about that.
From the phrasing it sounds like a "prelimiary opinion", something you have when it isn't a big topic for you and you never had to think deeply about it.

It doesn't presume what her fully formed opinion would be, more that it wasn't a topic she focused on.

She did a lot of good at the topics she focused on.

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One of my friends started from similar position (kind, no skin of my nose) and ended our discussion with " it's not fair, you were thinking about it! And now I know it is more complicated."

A question.

In my opinion, a male who enters a space that women have fought to keep female-only for their safety and dignity is a red flag for any reason.

Is this something that you would disagree with?

Many trans people you’d hardly know they were AMAB so I can’t see the issue as they’re so feminine. I’d be upset if a bloke presenting as a man, saying they’re trans rocked up in a women’s toilet, for nefarious reasons, but that’s not trans people’s fault - that’s just a weirdo!

Debate is pointless because both sides think they are right.

No, there's no point in trying to have a debate here. Least of all with an obviously-aggressive poster like you.

I will say that I think a man is a biological male and a woman is a biological female. And gender is obviously a 'thing' but hard to define. I think any nuanced explanation will be beyond you. And I've not said anywhere that men should be allowed to enter women's toilets, so you keep tilting at that windmill.

*peddle, by the way. fml.

I am. Tell me more about these "complications". Because if you're ok w no trans women in womens prisons and women's sports then you clearly understand that they are not women.

explain why males should be allowed to enter females toilets? What’s “complicated” about it? And yes, genuinely fascinated to understand as 99.9999% of the time, transactivists pedal the “No Debate” mantra and point blank refuse to engage on topics such as:

What is a woman?
What is gender?

It’s like we’re not allowed to have different opinions. I bet she’s kicking her self knowing how disappointed you are in her even after death

women's prisons: biological males shouldn't be in them

Sports: biological males shouldn't compete in women's sports

Toilets: it's complicated.

But, let's not kid ourselves, you're really not 'fascinated' to hear anyone's views but your own, are you?

It absolutely doesn't matter, Dolly said she was inclusive of everyone, and had no outwardly political views, you are free to be "dissapointed" in her though.

Dolly was a decent person who did a lot of good, and this is what you focus on? Come on.

This. Dolly was widely recognised as a good person who supported equality, diversity and inclusion.

OP: I agree with Dolly but on this one thing she must be wrong.

It’s cognitive dissonance in action right here.

I find that the majority of people hold a variety of stances on different issues. Some of which align with mine, some of which don't.
I weigh up all of these when deciding whether a person is overall worthy of my admiration and respect.
Just as I don't overlook the appalling misogyny and other views I find abhorrent in some individuals who support single sex spaces, neither do I condemn a person who doesn't speak out in support of them if they are admirable in other respects.
Single sex spaces are a very important issue, but amongst many others. I'd take someone with Dolly's views and actions over the more unsavoury element amongst those who 'know what a woman is' all day long.

fascinated to hear your opinion on gender and males using females toilets, accessing women’s prisons and sports etc etc etc etc

So there's not other possible considered opinion other than yours?

There's a word for that.

I always assume people who support this just haven’t thought it through, have no idea of all the implications of men being able to identify as women etc. they just imagine a man who looks exactly like a woman using the bathroom and think “aw, why not?”

I know because this is how I used to think!

The 'GC' discourse on this site has drifted miles from this. This is plain to anyone without your myopia on the subject.

Fucking hell. Some people want to suck the life out of everything. She's passed over. Leave her be. She was one of the good ones, unlike rapping wankers who want to preach on stage and bore the rest of us.

Women’s protections, rights, privacy and dignity - you don’t think they’re worthy of discussion?