What do we REALLY think about the weight loss jabs?

No. But it is a potential side-effect.

Are you all right?

The thing is, that if people were suddenly able to en masse lose the weight without needing GLP1s we would still see a potential uptick in gall bladder issues. Because it's the losing weight that's the issue, not some effect that the GLP1s are have by somehow causing gallstones. And as a nation we want people to lose weight and reduce obesity rates, which will then reduce a whole host of other serious long term health conditions. So what do people who are obese need to do - somehow lose the weight without risking gall bladder issues? That's not possible.

I wonder what "proper medical supervision" is meant to be?

…..always assuming that taking a smart choice is affordable and thus available to the individual

It’s not a moral failing and I was very clear that I don’t even think it’s about individuals.

You’ve chosen to read my post as ‘judgey’ and accused me of being jealous. It’s faintly unhinged.

Of course people get fat through being lazy and greedy, as well as myriad other reasons. I’ve gained weight through being lazy and greedy and it’s very difficult to lose it, but it’s certainly possible. Pretending people have no agency does no-one any favours.

I agree with pp that WLIs aren’t addressing the underlying causes of obesity. A quick read of the many threads on the WLI threads will show that lots of users have binge eating disorder. The injections will do nothing to treat that.
I’ve always been a normal weight with lots of food noise although I mainly didn’t act on that because otherwise I’d have gained weight. I’ve been as much as a BMI of 25 but have maintained one of 20 for several years. I learnt to say no to my head. Now I’m on ADHD medication that food noise is much less and I can happily go all day without eating but shouldn’t so force myself to eat. I eat whatever I fancy but limit UPFs and make what I can from scratch. I exercise a lot every day because I don’t drive and have to walk everywhere. I’m rarely still. Having my breakfast is the longest I’ll sit down for on any day.
WLI are a relatively quick fix for the obese who don’t want to put in the hard psychological work to sort out their problems plus and very important plus, they’ve fucked up their metabolism by yo-yo dieting and being obese in the first place so it’s really hard to lose weight once you are obese. I think WLI should be prescribed alongside intensive psychological therapy but that’s never going to happen. I think it’s very important not to be one overweight in the first place. That takes hard work for a lot of people and humans tend to take the easy route.

Of course people prefer the easier option, you write that like it’s a moral failing, when it’s a smart decision.

weight loss and maintaining it is incredibly hard to do, no one is fat through choice or they are simply lazy and greedy, no one takes meds as the first resort.

the medication makes it possible, and of course easier, you get to succeed and not suffer, that’s the smart decision.

It’s not a moral failing and I was very clear that I don’t even think it’s about individuals.

You’ve chosen to read my post as ‘judgey’ and accused me of being jealous. It’s faintly unhinged.

Of course people get fat through being lazy and greedy, as well as myriad other reasons. I’ve gained weight through being lazy and greedy and it’s very difficult to lose it, but it’s certainly possible. Pretending people have no agency does no-one any favours.

I think people should mind their own business.

Nobody would be scoffing if a jab came out that helped with other life crippling vices - smoking/drinking/drugs/gambling.

Pack it in with the judgment and conspiracy theories and deal with your own shit.

Yes, familial hypercholesterolemia is a medical condition. Not everyone with high cholesterol has that though do they?

No doubt weight loss is difficult, but you’re really only proving the point that people
prefer the easier option. And who can blame them when our lifestyles make it so difficult to be healthier?

Of course people prefer the easier option, you write that like it’s a moral failing, when it’s a smart decision.

weight loss and maintaining it is incredibly hard to do, no one is fat through choice or they are simply lazy and greedy, no one takes meds as the first resort.

the medication makes it possible, and of course easier, you get to succeed and not suffer, that’s the smart decision.

Yes, familial hypercholesterolemia is a medical condition. Not everyone with high cholesterol has that though do they?

No doubt weight loss is difficult, but you’re really only proving the point that people
prefer the easier option. And who can blame them when our lifestyles make it so difficult to be healthier?

Sigh? So the BMJ is publishing incorrect info, about early trial data, in January 2026? There was no new warning sent to doctors, as stated? How very odd.

High cholesterol is often familial, so statins are necessary because no amount of dietary change will lower it.

So obesity and different metabolisms make weight loss for many difficult, therefore WLI are necessary.

And what’s being judgey a symptom of? Jealousy? Messed up about one’s own weight?

I don't like them at all.

It's not fair on people who have lost weight through use of exercise and willpower. Some people will still be eschewing the use of these drugs and doing it the old fashioned way, yet people will think they are cheating by shooting up drugs. To me it is no different to sports people taking performance enhancing drugs.

And what’s being judgey a symptom of? Jealousy? Messed up about one’s own weight?

You’re right, I should have specified that I see a difference between obese users and overweight users. Lifestyle is a massive factor, which I thought I made clear, and I’m not aiming this at individuals. But yes, medication is often a lazy option. Same as for people who use statins to reduce cholesterol, or blood pressure drugs, when in fact exercise and diet would do most of the work. I get why people choose those options but they are a symptom of culture, not a medical issue, IMO.

You would be wrong. The data shows the opposite. The majority are being used appropriately. Same as we use insulin for a "little bit of diabetes", BP meds for "slightly high BP", inhalers for a "bit out of breath".
As a doctor in this field and previously unhealthy, unhappy morbidly obese GLP1 user, I am so sick of the same old narrative from uneducated uninformed judgemental idiots.

Just ignore it, when the poster is called out they just resort to are you ok, cringe worthy but nothing more.

You’re right, I should have specified that I see a difference between obese users and overweight users. Lifestyle is a massive factor, which I thought I made clear, and I’m not aiming this at individuals. But yes, medication is often a lazy option. Same as for people who use statins to reduce cholesterol, or blood pressure drugs, when in fact exercise and diet would do most of the work. I get why people choose those options but they are a symptom of culture, not a medical issue, IMO.

I am very happy to have a "lazy" and "less healthy option" that's enabled me to go from a BMI of 50 to a BMI of 25, after a lifetime of obesity that began in childhood.

I'd love to know why that's less healthy than trying to lose weight for the umpteenth time as in the past, eventually failing and regaining the weight plus a bit more for good measure as has been the case every other time I've lost weight without medication?

We know that very very few people manage to move from obese to a healthy weight and stay there long term. All the evidence shows this. It doesn't mean that everyone who is obese is lazy. In fact there are hoards of "lazy" obese women dealing with daily life, working, caring for children or other people, volunteering, running clubs etc etc. None of that is lazy. It is great that there is an effective tool that they can use to lose weight and get healthier.