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Was Y2K a real genuine threat to human existence that was averted by the blood sweat and tears of IT departments across the globe?

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OneMentalBastard · 20/09/2026 21:24

Or was it never going to be that big a deal but they all got paid loads of money for resetting computer clocks anyway?

Just curious, in light of these doomy messages about AI. Which, again, is something that only IT departments can save humanity from.

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OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:01

No one was seriously predicting global societal collapse.

Oh, they absolutely were.

I've even been told a couple of times, on this thread, that the only reason planes didn't fall out of the sky was because IT departments fixed them.

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TunnocksOrDeath · 21/09/2026 00:02

I imagine that if your bank had taken 100 years' worth of interest from your savings account in Jan2000 instead of crediting it with one month's, you might have been a bit cheesed off.
Having spent over a decade in Finance IT, I can tell you that there is rarely "a" system. It will be a patchwork of systems developed over time, and a change to any one of them requires the whole flow for any impacted transaction type to be robustly regression tested. Identifying all the instances of dodgy date coding and fixing them in a way that ensures that only compatible data is passed between systems in the meantime is very fiddly, time consuming and expensive.

XigDoop · 21/09/2026 00:12

It was real. Interesting times!

SilenceInside · 21/09/2026 00:14

No one serious was.... credulous idiots might have believed it though.

mulberrymilk · 21/09/2026 00:15

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:01

No one was seriously predicting global societal collapse.

Oh, they absolutely were.

I've even been told a couple of times, on this thread, that the only reason planes didn't fall out of the sky was because IT departments fixed them.

IT departments did fix "planes" and all the software and computer systems used in air traffic control, and so on ad infinitum.

Not sure what your problem is.

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:16

This is what the BBC were reporting in 1998 for eg based on what tech people were telling them:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/specialreport/1998/03/98/millenniumbug/70538.stm

Gwynneth Flower, director of the government's own taskforce Action 2000, disagrees with Mr Guenier's analysis but acknowledges it is too late to fix everything.

She says: "We are too late to have a totally trouble-free transition to the new millennium.

"The millennium is a problem that will affect every man, woman and child in the world.

"We must prioritise our actions to make sure that the most vital computers systems are fixed, and leave the rest for later," says Ms Flower.

We had fucking years of this shit coming at us from IT organisations and think-tanks . It genuinely wasn't just a few tabloid reporters saying this crap.

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SilenceInside · 21/09/2026 00:22

Since when does not "totally trouble free" mean global societal collapse? And that was in April 1998, so a year and half or so of work done after that, which meant that most systems were sorted. There were some issues, nothing that meant any real or lasting harm, or that caused trouble on a global societal level.

But, you are stuck in a catch-22 about this issue. I can see it's important to you to feel that you were somehow hoodwinked by IT workers. It's certainly fascinating to see the thought processes in action here.

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:29

She told us it would affect every man woman and child. That is more than just a few bits of the odd computer going wrong. Those stories happened again and again in 1998 and 1999. All apocalyptic, all unfixable in the time left.

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OnGoldenPond · 21/09/2026 00:31

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 20/09/2026 21:57

You misunderstand. When it was being developed/experimented with, they thought it had the potential to set the sky on fire. That was what I was referring to. Not the use of it against those civilian cities.

The fear of the advanced science.

Many cutting edge technologies brought with them fears that it could end the world or lead to catastrophic results.

The atom bomb, the hadron collider, Y2K.

I really resent the way you read my post and made assumptions rather than wondering what I actually meant, given that you didn’t understand it.

I understood exactly what you meant and that previous poster should have just asked rather than being nasty and implying you condoned mass slaughter by the atomic bombs.

it had been theorised some years before the bomb was built that a nuclear fission explosion would release so much energy that the atmosphere would ignite and instantly eliminate all life on Earth. It was explained in the very popular film “Oppenheimer” so it is now fairly common knowledge.

Not sure of the details of the big scare over the large hadron collider, but it was something to do with a fear that an uncontrollable chain reaction would be set off which would blow up the planet.

So you clearly gave these as similar examples of fears of apocalyptic events being set off by new technology. Though I would say that these two were theories that didn’t actually prove to be true in real life, but Y2K was a very real issue that would have caused some pretty catastrophic events if it wasn’t for a great deal of hard work being done to fix the problem.

GarlicSomething · 21/09/2026 00:32

Have people walked on the Moon, OP?

Just want to get a sense of the ballpark we're in.

Ponderingwindow · 21/09/2026 00:36

I’m a data scientist that still
sometimes works with pre-y2k datasets. We still have people who make errors because they did not account for the date structuring. It’s not life or death. It’s someone getting results like people who are 150 years old and we notice it and go back and fix the code.

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:41

Were there ever potentially apocalyptic consequences, or was it always just potential admin errors like an obviously wrong date of birth?

Because as I've shown, it experts advising the government at the time told that government that every man woman and child would certainly be affected.

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placemats · 21/09/2026 00:43

OneMentalBastard · 20/09/2026 21:25

I thought all the planes were going to drop out of the sky. But they didn't.

Aye pet.

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OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:44

GarlicSomething · 21/09/2026 00:32

Have people walked on the Moon, OP?

Just want to get a sense of the ballpark we're in.

Do keep up.

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socialdilemmawhattodo · 21/09/2026 00:55

TunnocksOrDeath · 21/09/2026 00:02

I imagine that if your bank had taken 100 years' worth of interest from your savings account in Jan2000 instead of crediting it with one month's, you might have been a bit cheesed off.
Having spent over a decade in Finance IT, I can tell you that there is rarely "a" system. It will be a patchwork of systems developed over time, and a change to any one of them requires the whole flow for any impacted transaction type to be robustly regression tested. Identifying all the instances of dodgy date coding and fixing them in a way that ensures that only compatible data is passed between systems in the meantime is very fiddly, time consuming and expensive.

As a risk manager i always remind people that it is better to get the process right first time, as adjustments, reviews, feedback etc to a process are time consuming and costly!

Bobbingtons · 21/09/2026 00:58

Obvious troll is trolling!
My first job was y2k compliance, it was tedious, assessing 200+ bits of software, about half of it needed patching or upgrading/replacing. The reason noting serious happened was because people like me spent the previous years making sure everything was compliant or replaced. It wasn't difficult but was an awful lot of work.

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 00:59

Because if there never were potentially apocalyptic consequences, why were IT experts at the time saying things like this?:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/1999/may/26/y2k.onlinesupplement

He will be working for the United Nations over the millennium and, if his darkest predictions come true, his hotel room in the Big Apple will give him nothing more than the perfect view of an unfolding disaster, as the year 2000 bug comes out of hiding to wreak havoc across the world. He fears he could witness panic and civil disorder as electricity, gas and water supplies fail. Hunger as food supplies dwindle. Gridlock in major cities as traffic lights go out.

Digging in for the digital doomsday

With 218 days until the year 2000 is it time to plan a party or to head for the hills? Neil McIntosh talks to those who think we should be laying in supplies of bottled water not champagne

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/1999/may/26/y2k.onlinesupplement

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OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 01:07

I'm not trolling.

I'm being deliberately provocative because I'm fucked off that a quarter of a century after we previously got told that IT systems would kill us all unless we gave tech companies loads of money to "fix" them, here we are again. I don't want us to have to keep on doing this.

That last article I posted had an interview with a tech guy seven months before 2000 where he openly spoke about apocalypse due to governments not spending enough on Y2K fixes. An apocalypse that might I remind you never happened, never even nearly happened, despite countries like eg DR Congo doing fuck all to avert it.

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mulberrymilk · 21/09/2026 01:11

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 01:07

I'm not trolling.

I'm being deliberately provocative because I'm fucked off that a quarter of a century after we previously got told that IT systems would kill us all unless we gave tech companies loads of money to "fix" them, here we are again. I don't want us to have to keep on doing this.

That last article I posted had an interview with a tech guy seven months before 2000 where he openly spoke about apocalypse due to governments not spending enough on Y2K fixes. An apocalypse that might I remind you never happened, never even nearly happened, despite countries like eg DR Congo doing fuck all to avert it.

But "we" didn't give tech companies loads of money - companies used their in-house IT experts to do the fixes over a period of many years, and if some outside tech experts were called in to some government departments in miscellaneous countries, or extra staff were paid to do the overtime, so what. It needed to be fixed, and it was fixed.

It is completely different from the AI revolution occurring now, and those in the know's opinions on what may lie ahead and should be averted.

mulberrymilk · 21/09/2026 01:12

An apocalypse that might I remind you never happened, never even nearly happened, despite countries like eg DR Congo doing fuck all to avert it.

Oh, the Congo, you say? How do you know who did what where?

I lived under a flightpath then and it was certainly a concern for me.

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 01:17

The government spent tens of millions on task forces and advisors. All from tech companies. Honestly I don't know if you genuinely don't remember it or maybe weren't born but these people were everywhere, very vocal and very highly paid.

And there are clear parallels with the dialogue about AI now in that individuals from private industry are taking it upon themselves to get in the public eye and get in the ear of policy makers. This is literally how the Y2K stuff started.

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mulberrymilk · 21/09/2026 01:18

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 01:17

The government spent tens of millions on task forces and advisors. All from tech companies. Honestly I don't know if you genuinely don't remember it or maybe weren't born but these people were everywhere, very vocal and very highly paid.

And there are clear parallels with the dialogue about AI now in that individuals from private industry are taking it upon themselves to get in the public eye and get in the ear of policy makers. This is literally how the Y2K stuff started.

I was definitely born, and I definitely remember it. I can't speak for what messaging was around in every country in the world then, though.

I don't agree. People involved in AI development who have serious qualms are speaking up, and urging caution, based on what they know and the potentialities they can already see - which is the humane and right thing to do.

Svalberg · 21/09/2026 01:33

The company I worked for started preparing for this in about 1993 - and incidentally, it wasn't an IT department that was working on it, it was the R&D engineers who developed the hardware that software ran on as well as the software. All the new systems from about that date never had a problem because the issue had been addressed - it was the legacy systems and backward compatability that caused the problem.

DisillusionedIT · 21/09/2026 01:41

OneMentalBastard · 21/09/2026 01:07

I'm not trolling.

I'm being deliberately provocative because I'm fucked off that a quarter of a century after we previously got told that IT systems would kill us all unless we gave tech companies loads of money to "fix" them, here we are again. I don't want us to have to keep on doing this.

That last article I posted had an interview with a tech guy seven months before 2000 where he openly spoke about apocalypse due to governments not spending enough on Y2K fixes. An apocalypse that might I remind you never happened, never even nearly happened, despite countries like eg DR Congo doing fuck all to avert it.

I don't want us to have to keep on doing this.

You clearly aren’t going to be doing anything to fix ‘this’ 🤣🙄

It’s good the people warning about the Y2K bug did so when there was still time to do something about it. Some countries, like DR Congo were not heavily computerised at the time and what they had was often bought from external companies who were working on the bug for all their customers.

After Y2K we (developers and sw managers) were still fixing some of the less critical systems that hadn’t been fixed in time and started behaving weirdly.