AIBU to want to go in to my daughters work

I'm going to go against the grain. She's a child. They have a duty of care to all employees but especially minors. They've broken the law. I'm a union rep. I'd give them both barrels.

If she didn’t speak up, she can’t then complain. She’s practically a grown adult and needs to advocate for herself. And seven hours isn’t that long to be without a meal and a break, though I understand if others were having one it would feel a bit crap.

You could go in of course but it won’t do her any favours. If you do, she won’t be taken seriously in her job (and she might find that her hours are mysteriously cut).

I have seen parents steaming into their kid’s job before and it never ends well.

Good grief OP 🙄

Don't go in. But coach her.

I worked in a night club when I was 18, 9 pm till 6am with 30 minutes break. That was tiring. Tell her to ask for a break and don’t go in yourself. Probably no one realised she hadn’t taken it.

Do not go in. Your DD needs to advocate for herself. Depending on the culture there you could end up causing some teasing/bullying. My first job was in a restaurant and I could imagine something like this would end up with comments to your DD such as "are you going to tell your mummy". It could also result in fewer shifts for her in retaliation. So as well as hindering her independence you could completely ruin her job.

That's not a flex. There is no virtue in neglecting to care for yourself. Your employers won't thank you for it, they just pile more work on you. I wouldn't dream of working 7 hours straight.

She needs to advocate for herself, also check her wages re they might automatically deduct an time for a break which she didn't have. Good luck to her and understandable that you wanted to pop in etc

If she normally gets breaks and others were given breaks, then surely DD was missed rather than this being intentional? Work on her confidence to speak up for herself.

Then why have labour laws at all? 🤔

Coach your daughter how to advocate for herself in a professional way. She will need that skill again in her life. Please do not go into her workplace over this. It will make things more difficult. As a mum, I know it’s hard.

This lays it out:

https://www.papershift.com/en/blog/working-hours-break-laws-in-uk-every-owner-employee-should-be-aware-of#:~:text=The%20rules%20for%20under,at%20least%2048%20hours

I think some posters are forgetting the fact she is 17... she's still classed as a child and there are lots more strict laws around children having adequate breaks..this isn't a grin and bear it because works hard situation

No.

No but same as a supermarket you can't sell alcohol without someone over 18 supervising you.

I disagree....it's normal to have lunch and eat a meal at that time. Whether or not she has any other sort of break the opportunity to eat something should be essential.
OP does she feel intimidated by older people there? I know i used to in jobs at that kind of age and found it really hard to be assertive and stand up for my rights.I think my mum intervened afew times.I learnt eventually as I got older and more used to the workplace to grow more of a backbone.

Please don’t. I worked at a pub when I was 17 and there was an issue at work that I told my mum about. She ran into my boss in a supermarket and spoke to him about it. Absolutely mortifying. Seriously, don’t be that parent.

Don't you have to be 18 to work in a pub?

My daughter was in exactly this position, except she was 19, not 17. She was working 8, 9, sometimes even 10 hour shifts in a cafe kitchen without a break and often without any food. I was furious and told her it was illegal, not to mention immoral and exploitative. I encouraged her every day to speak up and told her nothing would change unless she said or did something. I very much wanted to march round there and give the manager a piece of my mind, but she was 19 and didn’t want me to. So I had to let her learn the hard way and after a few gruelling months, she handed in her notice. It was really hard to have to leave her to it, but I’m glad I did, because it was an important life lesson.

Seven hours without a sit-down? And nothing to eat? I've worked at a job where you couldn't sit down and it's hard! But I agree that she should ask, rather than Mum doing it for her.

Coach her in the things to say.

Start of shift: what time will my break be? Just checking as I didn’t get one at all last shift

Later “would it be best for me to go on my break straight after xxx”?

”I just wanted to mention that I didn’t get a break on Sunday, I’m presuming it will it be OK to have one this shift?”

Any problems, I.e they say no:
”Is that legal? I thought we had to be able to have a break?”

No you shouldn't go in, she's 17. It doesn't look good if your parent goes into your job! Although what they've done is illegal and you should be preparing your daughter with a speech to say herself about how what they did was unfair and illegal. Do some research on it beforehand and let her go in with knowlege

Gosh seriously. Five year olds used to go up the chimneys. Let’s not be outraged at 7 whole hours of work. And please, let’s pray there’s no war because we’ll be done for in about 30 seconds if this is the stamina of teenagers today.

7 hours is nothing tbh in hospitality

Law says 20 mins for a 6 hour shift - preferably in the middle - not in the last hour

Less then 6 hours - no break

Your daughter needs to speak up and say ' Im hungry, need a bite, need a smoke, need a wee " Bar staff know the madness and will cover each other She just needs to find her voice

Am literally in the same position except that it’s my son and he hasn’t been paid correctly - it’s been four weeks. It’s a lovely pub and lovely owners but they owe him more that £400. I too want to go in there and sort it out but think he needs to learn to stand up for himself