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AIBU to want to go in to my daughters work

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Uniqueheartbee · 20/09/2026 21:10

My 17yo has a job in a small village pub. The Sunday shift is 7 hours, and they get a break and food.

Today my daughter didn’t get a break or any food but the other members of staff did.

She said she didn’t ask as she kept thinking it would be her next. But also I don’t think she would have anyway

She has come home tired from working for 7 hours non stop, and is upset about it.

I am upset for her and want to go and ask why she didn’t get a break and say it’s not acceptable but I also think she has to sort her own battles out. She works hard there and is meant to do 2 shifts a week but is often asked and willing to do extra.

So the AIBU is

You are being unreasonable. Of course you shouldn’t go in

You are not being unreasonable. You should go in

Any tips on how fellow parents have managed feelings like this as your children are growing up and becoming independent. I feel responsible for not teaching her how to stand up for herself

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Anarchy99 · Yesterday 00:02

jetlag92 · 25/09/2026 20:36

When they're younger they do need someone to speak up for them. I've had a few instances where we've run late a work and I've noticed that the younger members haven't have a break and I've had to arrange cover for them to have one (I'm currently a senior professional, but don't manage the non-professional stafF

So when do they magically become adult enough to speak up without hiding behind their mummy?

The OP’s DD is a few months from being a grown adult. If she can’t speak up for herself, she may not be ready to have a job.

jetlag92 · 25/09/2026 20:36

When they're younger they do need someone to speak up for them. I've had a few instances where we've run late a work and I've noticed that the younger members haven't have a break and I've had to arrange cover for them to have one (I'm currently a senior professional, but don't manage the non-professional stafF

GaIadriel · 25/09/2026 20:32

CopiedMyBlottingBook · 25/09/2026 08:27

That doesn't sound much given the high concentration levels of the work. I've never done it but I imagine it's physically draining as well, being sat in one position and having to wield the controls for such a large vehicle without being able to stretch your legs for several hours. Are you allowed toilet breaks as well? I'm old and menopausal but I can't normally last more than about 3 hrs without a service station stop for the loo.

I only really drive construction trucks and heavy plant nowadays so I'm rarely driving for long periods, but it has its own hazards. Mainly being in close proximity to people. Like today I was filling a pipeline on a military airfield and had the builders and engineer walking behind guiding the chute as I poured the concrete.

Doing something daft like forgetting to knock it out of reverse could easily result in me squashing several of them when they gesture for me to move forward. And concrete mixers tip over really easily if you put a wheel in a dip when manoeuvring on a muddy brownfield site. Arctic drivers etc will usually hit the 9-10 hours driving limit before they hit the 15 hour maximum shift length, unless they're waiting to be tipped at an RDC. But in that situation a lot of them have a snooze or jump in the bunk. With concrete mixers/vacuum trucks/etc you spend as much time out the cab as you do driving so you can easily hit 12-13 hours.

It's rare to get too close to the 15 because most sensible drivers won't want to risk being stuck somewhere. It's the reduced rest that's more common. Getting stuck on a job but still needing to be in early. That annoys me far more than doing a long day tbh because it eats all your free time.

CopiedMyBlottingBook · 25/09/2026 08:27

GaIadriel · 24/09/2026 22:29

You need a 45 min upon reaching 4.5 hours driving unless you shift to non driving activities. Otherwise it's a 15 before exceeding six hours work, 30 in total before exceeding nine hours, and 45 mins total across the shift for shifts longer than nine hours.

That's not the scary bit though IMO. You can reduce your daily rest three times a week which means you could legally work three consecutive shifts up to 15 hours with only nine hours between them including your commute. I was working in Oxford today and did a 14 hour shift, arriving home seven hours before I needed to be back in work again, having not eaten/showered etc.

It's not always like that though. I'll have several hours waiting time in the day where I can snooze but some people would be flat out all day.

That doesn't sound much given the high concentration levels of the work. I've never done it but I imagine it's physically draining as well, being sat in one position and having to wield the controls for such a large vehicle without being able to stretch your legs for several hours. Are you allowed toilet breaks as well? I'm old and menopausal but I can't normally last more than about 3 hrs without a service station stop for the loo.

GaIadriel · 24/09/2026 22:29

CopiedMyBlottingBook · 22/09/2026 07:49

Goodness, I thought lorry drivers had to have much longer breaks!

You need a 45 min upon reaching 4.5 hours driving unless you shift to non driving activities. Otherwise it's a 15 before exceeding six hours work, 30 in total before exceeding nine hours, and 45 mins total across the shift for shifts longer than nine hours.

That's not the scary bit though IMO. You can reduce your daily rest three times a week which means you could legally work three consecutive shifts up to 15 hours with only nine hours between them including your commute. I was working in Oxford today and did a 14 hour shift, arriving home seven hours before I needed to be back in work again, having not eaten/showered etc.

It's not always like that though. I'll have several hours waiting time in the day where I can snooze but some people would be flat out all day.

Tablesandchairs23 · 24/09/2026 11:59

Don't go in. She's a young adult she can speak for herself.

CopiedMyBlottingBook · 22/09/2026 07:49

GaIadriel · 22/09/2026 00:29

In fact seems I'm wrong!

I work under the Road Transport WTD which stipulates 15 mins minimum. Bonkers to get less time when driving a 40 ton wagon around urban areas than in the majority of jobs.

Goodness, I thought lorry drivers had to have much longer breaks!

GaIadriel · 22/09/2026 00:29

GaIadriel · 22/09/2026 00:25

It's 15 mins.

In fact seems I'm wrong!

I work under the Road Transport WTD which stipulates 15 mins minimum. Bonkers to get less time when driving a 40 ton wagon around urban areas than in the majority of jobs.

GaIadriel · 22/09/2026 00:25

CopiedMyBlottingBook · 20/09/2026 21:16

They are breaking the law - she is entitled to a minimum 20 minute break once she has worked 6 hours.

Arm her with this information and maybe talk through how she can raise this professionally but assertively, help her with some wording but don't do it on her behalf.

It's 15 mins.

Sxwer · 22/09/2026 00:22

SepiaSleep · 21/09/2026 14:37

Not the bits about the general public. It’s all true sadly. I think if there were no cameras it would be worse.

Not fiction in the slightest.
Of course not every customer is difficult, but she does suddenly find my age group can be very demanding, and cannot believe how some parents will walk out leaving the most horrendous mess for staff to clean up.

She's a great young woman, hard working and determined.
But this job has been a real eye opener for her and a great learning curve.
The money is really good so she's glad to have it. She has friends earning half what she does.
Until you deal with the general public you have no idea how hard it is.
Things are far worse since covid.
Ask teachers or nurses and they will often tell you the same thing.

Imonmyownhere · 21/09/2026 21:24

Uniqueheartbee · 20/09/2026 21:10

My 17yo has a job in a small village pub. The Sunday shift is 7 hours, and they get a break and food.

Today my daughter didn’t get a break or any food but the other members of staff did.

She said she didn’t ask as she kept thinking it would be her next. But also I don’t think she would have anyway

She has come home tired from working for 7 hours non stop, and is upset about it.

I am upset for her and want to go and ask why she didn’t get a break and say it’s not acceptable but I also think she has to sort her own battles out. She works hard there and is meant to do 2 shifts a week but is often asked and willing to do extra.

So the AIBU is

You are being unreasonable. Of course you shouldn’t go in

You are not being unreasonable. You should go in

Any tips on how fellow parents have managed feelings like this as your children are growing up and becoming independent. I feel responsible for not teaching her how to stand up for herself

Encourage your daughter to stand up for herself instead.

ilovepixie · 21/09/2026 21:19

It’s hard when you’re young and in your first job and too shy to speak up. Teach her her to ask if it happens again. Don’t go in, my mum went into my work when I was 18 telling them to look after me at the Christmas party and not let me drink! It was so embarrassing

Grumpyoldcat · 21/09/2026 21:04

Let her deal with it. She will be mortified if you stick your nose in.

Uniqueheartbee · 21/09/2026 21:02

Just want to say another thank you to everyone, it’s been really helpful to read everyone’s replies. Especially those who have shared similar feelings and advice, but also those who as much as said ffs haha!

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comealongdobbeh · 21/09/2026 14:38

Don’t do it for her. Teach her how to do it for herself

SepiaSleep · 21/09/2026 14:37

whatsnewbuttercup · 21/09/2026 12:29

This is a work of fiction, surely!

Not the bits about the general public. It’s all true sadly. I think if there were no cameras it would be worse.

chirrupybird · 21/09/2026 13:38

Uniqueheartbee · 20/09/2026 21:34

Thank you everyone!

I know I can’t really go in, she would not want me to at all…. And i know it would be mortifyingly embarrassing, but it is how I felt immediately when she told me!!

There are no break rotas, the manager is the chef and there were only a few members of staff on so it’s not like there are a lot to manage or anything.

I will work on encouraging her to speak up if it happens again

Yes at 17 in some ways they are still so young, but really don't want their mum to help. It can be really frustrating that you know you could fix something easily for them but they don't want any help and then very often they don't do it, and suffer the consequences. I guess at that age you learn by experience.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 21/09/2026 12:59

I think you can sympathetic and explain she needs to stand up for herself in that situation. You are doing her no favours fighting her battles for her.

whatsnewbuttercup · 21/09/2026 12:29

Sxwer · 21/09/2026 09:56

I had the same situation last year and felt those emotions.

However, this is the great value of a part time job, to instil self confidence and independence.

Great that she has told you and that you can support and encourage her practicing what she should say.

Another issue we had was my daughter was being very obliging taking extra shifts for colleagues that were stuck.
To such an extend that again I said don't be over working yourself.

Then she needed someone to cover her and it was crickets!
She has been saying no to these same people since now easily when she doesn't feel like it.

Its a great learning curve IMO that sets them up.

My daughter now dislikes the general public, especially middle aged people which she thinks are so demanding and grumpy.
She has NOW enormous new respect for anyone dealing with the public.

She thinks most children are so bratty, and their parents are a disgrace the way they leave a mess for her.
This is in a large very well regarded large pub gastro establishment.

I nod away. She's a privately educated, bit spoiled young woman, and this job is doing her the world of good.
I'm so delighted and grateful she has it during university.
She's apparently an excellent waitress, customers really like her, and the tips are incredible.
She averages £20+ an hour pay and tips, great money for a student. She does work very hard though, it is very busy.

Waitressing is a great mind training job for teens IMO.

This is a work of fiction, surely!

whatsnewbuttercup · 21/09/2026 12:25

It’s a few hours work in a pub, so hardly the Burma railway.
Tell her to just speak up!

Anarchy99 · 21/09/2026 12:18

Sxwer · 21/09/2026 09:56

I had the same situation last year and felt those emotions.

However, this is the great value of a part time job, to instil self confidence and independence.

Great that she has told you and that you can support and encourage her practicing what she should say.

Another issue we had was my daughter was being very obliging taking extra shifts for colleagues that were stuck.
To such an extend that again I said don't be over working yourself.

Then she needed someone to cover her and it was crickets!
She has been saying no to these same people since now easily when she doesn't feel like it.

Its a great learning curve IMO that sets them up.

My daughter now dislikes the general public, especially middle aged people which she thinks are so demanding and grumpy.
She has NOW enormous new respect for anyone dealing with the public.

She thinks most children are so bratty, and their parents are a disgrace the way they leave a mess for her.
This is in a large very well regarded large pub gastro establishment.

I nod away. She's a privately educated, bit spoiled young woman, and this job is doing her the world of good.
I'm so delighted and grateful she has it during university.
She's apparently an excellent waitress, customers really like her, and the tips are incredible.
She averages £20+ an hour pay and tips, great money for a student. She does work very hard though, it is very busy.

Waitressing is a great mind training job for teens IMO.

I do hope she keeps her disdain of half the population to herself though.

pavillion1 · 21/09/2026 10:38

God no do not go in .. he te probably an oversight and she should of spoken up

Quercus5 · 21/09/2026 10:36

Welcome to the next stage of parenting.

Parenting doesn’t stop when your children become young adults, but it’s much more behind the scenes support - like talking through how to deal with a situation at work, or a relationship, or finance.

You also have to accept that your daughter will make different decisions to you, eg she might decide not to make a fuss about her break. That’s OK too. The important thing is that she knows you’re there and she can ask you for advice when she wants to.

So how you handle this will set you up for the next few years.

Greedybilly · 21/09/2026 10:30

She needs to remind them she needs a break.
The catering industry is notorious for taking the piss with teenagers. Would the pub 'forget' to charge a customer? Of course not.
See if she can sort it herself in the first instance OP- hopefully she can . I feel your pain though!

rwalker · 21/09/2026 10:26

Booboobagins · 21/09/2026 08:28

She needs to ask where management has failed.

She needs to raise it - if she cant say it (how have we brought up a generation of people who dont know how to use their voice) she can write it and email it. But she needs to do it not you!

OP never mentioned there been problems in the past so it was just an oversight
I’m not getting why it has to made into such a big deal
If I’d accidentally done this to one of my staff when I was manager I’d would of expected them to speak up