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Sibling graduation is an exceptional curcumstance

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Oldgalgames · 20/09/2026 19:52

I recently applied to my DD13's school for 1 days absence to attend her sisters graduation (DD22) in November which has been declined as its not deemed an 'exceptional circumstance'. My DD13 had 98% attendance last year, was off for the flu last November which has been her only absence, is in top sets for all STEM subects. I know we wont get a fine, and we will be attending as a family anyway, its more the principle as I do truely believe this is of course an exceptional circumstance. A sibling's university graduation happens once or twice in a lifetime, it’s an important family milestone and incredibly inspiring for a 13 year-old to witness. I should add this is the first ever request I have submitted to school for an absence!

I am being unreasonable, school are right to decline this request as its not an exceptional circumstance

I am not being unreasonable it is an exceptional circumstance

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HarrietofFire · 20/09/2026 21:04

It’s really, really boring. The second time I had one I didn’t even invite anyone so no one had to sit through that dire day. I went to both my daughters’ graduations as a proud mum but they were just as bad as mine. Don’t waste a day off school. It’s tedious in the extreme.

EastGrinstead · 20/09/2026 21:03

Oldgalgames · 20/09/2026 20:36

I do understand what you are saying, however we do everything right, my daughter is on time every single day, supports school rules, stays on top of her homework, and has excellent attendance. She works hard, excels in top sets, and never causes a moment of trouble.
So you hope a school would view a request like this in context of a supportive family celebrating a major educational success that actively inspires her own future, instead it just feels like a slap in the face for parents who consistently do the right thing. Its the principle rather than the consequence that has annoyed me

Just take your daughter to the graduation. I hope you manage to get more than two tickets to the ceremony and will be in a position to do so.

Your need for validation from the school is a big concerning though.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 20/09/2026 21:00

Thingcanonlygetbetter · 20/09/2026 20:01

Another thread that makes me want to get off the sofa and kiss the Irish soil and thank god that I got my English husband to move from England before we had kids. You go to your lovely family day out, and ignore the nonsense. That family day will be as you say an inspiration to your young child. School are being completely unreasonable.

Ha! I couldn't manage to get my English husband to move back home so when we had children, I decided to home educate them. This shitty English school nonsense was the main reason behind that decision. We've never regretted it.

throwaway3749574 · 20/09/2026 20:59

Bit weird for a sibling to go to a graduation in my opinion, but then if it’s far away and you’re all going, and there’d be no one home….
it is hugely dull though.

but yes next time just tell them, of course they can’t authorise for that, but it doesn’t matter that it’s unauthorised, you’re over thinking it.

RecliningMama · 20/09/2026 20:58

Oldgalgames · 20/09/2026 20:36

I do understand what you are saying, however we do everything right, my daughter is on time every single day, supports school rules, stays on top of her homework, and has excellent attendance. She works hard, excels in top sets, and never causes a moment of trouble.
So you hope a school would view a request like this in context of a supportive family celebrating a major educational success that actively inspires her own future, instead it just feels like a slap in the face for parents who consistently do the right thing. Its the principle rather than the consequence that has annoyed me

It’s not one rule for one and another for everyone else. Deciding on a case-by-case basis would take up too much valuable time.

Sorry they didn’t see your eldest’s graduation as the song and dance you do, but don’t take it personally just remember it and know in future that it will always be a flat no unless its requested leave to travel to see a very sick relative or there has been a death.

Sunseekers · 20/09/2026 20:58

I don't get the angst!

I wouldn't have asked, I'd just have emailed to say DD won't be in this friday, we're off to celebrate her sister's graduation.

MeowDoku · 20/09/2026 20:58

I have graduated 3 times, twice undergrad, once post-grad before which no one in my family had ever even been to sixth form. My parents and maternal grandparents came to the first, my brother wasn't even a consideration tbh. Subsequent graduations I have either been with friends/peers (2nd undegrad linked to work) or my Master's DH came and we made a nice weekend of it.

Bluntly, these days it isn't exceptional to graduate, 50% of young people do it. Also this isn't even the first graduation in your family, given your elder daughter came to yours.
By all means take her but it doesn't fit the criteria set out in legislation to be approved, and it doesn't really even fit the general definition of exceptional

Gonners · 20/09/2026 20:57

You are probably not being unreasonable, but in my experience graduation ceremonies are extremely tedious - so much so that I didn't even bother to attend my own. Goodness, my mother was enraged!

cityliving99 · 20/09/2026 20:56

That seems mean.
My guess the local Authority sets the rules?
We have a rule where if a student messages their parent to collect them, saying they are sick, that is unauthorised. They know the rules, but do their own thing anyway.
A graduation is special, so go and enjoy the day as a family.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/09/2026 20:56

Thingcanonlygetbetter · 20/09/2026 20:51

I don’t think the Celts would do well in this system! When responsible parents are honest about taking their child out of school for an important family occasion they should not be treated as though they have done something wrong.
Of course, action should be taken when children are persistently absent because of neglect, but that is entirely different from a parent making a considered decision about their own child. Most parents are good people who value education and want the best for their children. Declaring genuine absences for important family occasions as “unauthorised” feels unnecessarily punitive and, frankly, draconian.

I suspect the problem is that in England we have so many people who would take the piss and have days off for everything and nothing (I mean theme park days for non SEN children for example!) so they have to keep to a hard line.

Possibly people in Celtic countries are more responsible?

Sartre · 20/09/2026 20:55

I do think it’s up to the headteacher / potentially the academy if it is one. Obviously give him the day off anyway, just say he’s sick.

Chocolattecoffeecuppa · 20/09/2026 20:54

I think it should have been approved too OP. I took my child out of school for one day for a family celebration similar but not graduation and it was approved so I don't know what the criteria are.

honeyfox · 20/09/2026 20:53

I would have loved to attend a graduation ceremony at 13 and I do think it's inspiring!

I still remember a family holiday to Edinburgh for a week for a cousin's wedding when I was six. It was the only holiday I ever had with my brother who died young and my grandmother, as we had a family farm and never got to go away as a whole family. My Dad had to stay home that time. I'm in Ireland and the school didn't bat an eyelid.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 20/09/2026 20:53

I’m surprised that you could get enough tickets for the sibling to attend! Not that that’s bad but it often seems to be limited to two tickets.

I can kind of see both sides of this tbh - it’s probably not exceptional, just a nice thing. But I can see why you might decide you don’t care about the decision and take them anyway.

Thingcanonlygetbetter · 20/09/2026 20:51

GardenCovent · 20/09/2026 20:40

I agree, We’re in Scotland.
The English system of fines is totally alien to me

I don’t think the Celts would do well in this system! When responsible parents are honest about taking their child out of school for an important family occasion they should not be treated as though they have done something wrong.
Of course, action should be taken when children are persistently absent because of neglect, but that is entirely different from a parent making a considered decision about their own child. Most parents are good people who value education and want the best for their children. Declaring genuine absences for important family occasions as “unauthorised” feels unnecessarily punitive and, frankly, draconian.

LydiaJayne · 20/09/2026 20:51

HollyhocksandPeons · 20/09/2026 20:46

Nowhere in the OP have I read 'super academic family' - where did you get that info from?

OK, I added the "super" to what the OP said but that was my interpretation based on the rest of the information she's provided

Posters don't have to include everything in the OP @Oldgalgames has posted many times

Clearinguptheclutter · 20/09/2026 20:51

It won’t be authorised but who cares, take her anyway
no fine unless there is lots of other unauthorised absence
the head probably agrees with you but has his/her hands tied

However when I graduated it was 2 tickets max and thus hardly any siblings were able to attend

Restlessdreams1994 · 20/09/2026 20:51

HollyhocksandPeons · 20/09/2026 20:46

Nowhere in the OP have I read 'super academic family' - where did you get that info from?

It’s in one of the OP’s subsequent posts (although she says “academic” not “super academic”).

Restlessdreams1994 · 20/09/2026 20:48

Taking a child to a sibling’s graduation is not a normal thing to do and doesn’t have any value for the child so I’m not surprised the school won’t authorise it.

Why do you care though? Just take it as an unauthorised absence. You’re not going to get fined for one day!

BugJuice · 20/09/2026 20:48

This is a lot of angst for what is essentially just a tick in a column.

Gengha · 20/09/2026 20:47

Don’t sweat it, so what if it’s not authorised, presumably you’re still going to take her anyway, as you should. Let them mark it unauthorised, no one died.

chirrupybird · 20/09/2026 20:46

You only usually get two tickets, so probably none for siblings. I couldn't go to my brother's.

HollyhocksandPeons · 20/09/2026 20:46

LydiaJayne · 20/09/2026 20:40

The child is from a super academic family, she doesn't need to go an a graduation ceremony to be inspired to go to university.

It's not the 1970s, about half the population goes to university, in schools nowadays ime it's more unusual not to be funneled to uni

Nowhere in the OP have I read 'super academic family' - where did you get that info from?

Fatiguedwithlife · 20/09/2026 20:44

@Oldgalgames you can dance to their tune all day long and it won’t make the school give a shit.
Thats a good life lesson for your DD, do what you need to, and work hard, but don’t expect anyone else to be that arsed.

MickyMoonshine · 20/09/2026 20:43

Cadeaukatze · 20/09/2026 20:34

Yes they can and could approve it. My son had exceptional leave approved so he could do a sports event. It's only one day!

The parameters around what is considered an exceptional circumstance are very narrow. The head teacher can’t just authorise anything.
There is difference between a child competing in a sporting event and a child attending a siblings graduation.