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AIBU to still regret getting a 2:1 instead of a first?

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onedayillmoveon · 20/09/2026 19:02

It’s been 10 years since I graduated from university and I still can’t shake off the regret that I got a 2:1 and not a first. I know that a 2:1 is perfectly fine for the vast majority of jobs and nothing to be ashamed of, my more and more people have gotten firsts for the past 20 years or so. When I graduated in 2016, about 33% of humanities graduates from my uni got firsts. I just felt so stupid, incapable, inadequate….. I know people say that grades and numbers can’t define us, but I sort of did let it.

I still can’t shake off this horrible regret that I didn’t get one. I got a high first in my second year and was so pleased, I genuinely loved my subject and had applied myself. In my final year (which largely determines degree class where I went), I became quite depressed and stressed. I could never focus and never really adequately prepared for my exams. I just can’t stop wishing that I had pulled myself together in some way.

Some of you, if you read this far, might think, “well if you have a decent job, nobody gives a damn what degree you got”, and yes, fair. Yet there are certain supposedly ‘elite’ jobs where a first is strongly preferred, and I think not getting one ruined my chances of those.

Anyway, if anyone else has ever felt the same way, or knows someone who does, and wants to share ideas or experiences, maybe that will be helpful.

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Burtswasps · 22/09/2026 06:16

Flamboyantfred · 21/09/2026 19:55

But to actually quality as a barrister…. Daddy’s contacts would have done squat all.

And if she wasn’t good at her job… she wouldn’t last long being a barrister no matter how relevant daddy was

This. Absolute nonsense to suggest that someone could become a barrister solely on the basis of their dad’s contacts

HelmholtzWatson · 22/09/2026 05:31

Withoutwings · 21/09/2026 07:55

This isn’t nonsense because the poster is talking about 30 years ago - a very different time with very different grading. Firsts were very rare, one lecturer told me that to get a first you had to know more than your lecturer - you had to stand out enormously. The people who got firsts were not people who spent time with other students they focused heavily on their studies. Most employers need grads who have developed excellent people skills. I’m surprised you haven’t noticed the change in who gets firsts over the last 30 years.

30 year ago, the rate for 1st class degrees was around 7%, so not "very rare", and as you value the opinion of lecturers so highly, as I'm a lecturer, I'm telling you that 1st class students are nearly always strong in all areas and are very well rounded individuals.

GaIadriel · 22/09/2026 00:19

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 22:00

What do you do for a living?

Trucking/heavy plant in the construction sector.

Papster · 22/09/2026 00:15

onedayillmoveon · 20/09/2026 19:02

It’s been 10 years since I graduated from university and I still can’t shake off the regret that I got a 2:1 and not a first. I know that a 2:1 is perfectly fine for the vast majority of jobs and nothing to be ashamed of, my more and more people have gotten firsts for the past 20 years or so. When I graduated in 2016, about 33% of humanities graduates from my uni got firsts. I just felt so stupid, incapable, inadequate….. I know people say that grades and numbers can’t define us, but I sort of did let it.

I still can’t shake off this horrible regret that I didn’t get one. I got a high first in my second year and was so pleased, I genuinely loved my subject and had applied myself. In my final year (which largely determines degree class where I went), I became quite depressed and stressed. I could never focus and never really adequately prepared for my exams. I just can’t stop wishing that I had pulled myself together in some way.

Some of you, if you read this far, might think, “well if you have a decent job, nobody gives a damn what degree you got”, and yes, fair. Yet there are certain supposedly ‘elite’ jobs where a first is strongly preferred, and I think not getting one ruined my chances of those.

Anyway, if anyone else has ever felt the same way, or knows someone who does, and wants to share ideas or experiences, maybe that will be helpful.

I was viva’d (interviewed) 50 years ago to upgrade the guaranteed second to a first.
I reckoned a second was fine and fluffed the interview.
Still pains me

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 22:00

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:30

I just remember my mate's housemate always having to do marking in the evening. That would annoy me and I work about 50 hours most weeks. Sometimes a fair bit more if things go pear shaped.

What do you do for a living?

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Aluna · 21/09/2026 21:58

moderate · 21/09/2026 21:15

We're just pointing out how insufferable it is to parade the attitude "you don't even have to be that clever to get a first from Oxbridge, you're probably not just applying yourself enough".

Ahh that’s how you interpreted it. That’s not what I said though, the second clause is entirely your own invention.

Aluna · 21/09/2026 21:53

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:06

I don’t understand why they want to bash you.

Well, some posters like frothing over nothing.

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:41

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:30

I just remember my mate's housemate always having to do marking in the evening. That would annoy me and I work about 50 hours most weeks. Sometimes a fair bit more if things go pear shaped.

Marking quantity depends a lot on school / it varies a lot. There can be lots of marking during mock exam seasons but less at other times of the year.

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Stelladid · 21/09/2026 21:32

Brud · 21/09/2026 20:16

How does someone who got a 3rd win cases?

I’m hoping she didn’t get that far. She was actually in trading at a Chambers when I ;ast spoke to her. On reflection, I mis-spoke when I said she was a Barrister. She hadn’t gone far with it at that stage.

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:30

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:27

Actually I think the working hours are good compared to a lot of other jobs - 4 to 5 finish most days. The behaviour is appalling in a lot of cases, and I often blame parenting for that. There is progression if you want to go into leadership, so head of department, head of year, head teacher….

I just remember my mate's housemate always having to do marking in the evening. That would annoy me and I work about 50 hours most weeks. Sometimes a fair bit more if things go pear shaped.

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:27

Brud · 21/09/2026 20:38

TBF being a teacher pays okay at the start, but like the hours are long, the kids behave like crap and the progression ain't the best

Actually I think the working hours are good compared to a lot of other jobs - 4 to 5 finish most days. The behaviour is appalling in a lot of cases, and I often blame parenting for that. There is progression if you want to go into leadership, so head of department, head of year, head teacher….

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GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:27

It might've bothered me if I'd got a Desmond though. 😆

GaIadriel · 21/09/2026 21:26

Well, it's a personal thing I guess but I was 2% off a first and I'm pretty sure I'd have got it if I'd provided the CD my tutor requested for my dissertation - for a song I'd mentioned in passing but wasn't really here nor there. I didn't have the means to burn a CD as my laptop was a Surface device without a disc drive. And tbf who tf needs a CD in this day and age. So in the end I was like fuck it but really I should've humoured her.

But I couldn't really care less. It was just a box to tick and got me into a decent job where my progression was then pretty much just performance based. But I ultimately hated sitting in an office all day and now work in construction and trucking/heavy plant, so it was just a waste of money really.

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:23

Brud · 21/09/2026 20:17

Did you say already? Did you stay for the master's at Cambridge?

Went to an RG for my masters

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onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:21

@Unsexypyjamas what is ‘perfect’ though? I don’t think that anyone else out there is perfect…

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moderate · 21/09/2026 21:16

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:11

And who is your employer?

They're probably self-employed 😉

moderate · 21/09/2026 21:15

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:06

I don’t understand why they want to bash you.

We're just pointing out how insufferable it is to parade the attitude "you don't even have to be that clever to get a first from Oxbridge, you're probably not just applying yourself enough".

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:11

amigafan2003 · 21/09/2026 17:53

"so what if you got a 1st or 1 2:1? Who checks?"

My current employer only accepts people with a 1st.

And who is your employer?

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onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:06

Aluna · 21/09/2026 15:29

What current group? I’ve never said my “current group is all from Cambridge.”

It’s not me who didn’t leave it, people went on and on…we’ve had several posters like you jumping on to have a go who we’re not even part of the original discussion.

I don’t understand why they want to bash you.

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onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:03

Butsometimesnot · 21/09/2026 14:09

As said up thread, this OP has posted many many many times on Mumsnet. This isn’t straightforward. The OP is quite isolated and has never really branched out. No friends, no social life, never had a partner etc

I haven’t posted on here lots before. I have had boyfriends before and I do have friends.

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onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 21:00

Butsometimesnot · 21/09/2026 14:07

Who paid for all your further studies for the last decade @onedayillmoveon ? And your parents have been fully financially supporting you given this teaching job is your first job?

Edited

Government postgraduate loan for my Masters and a scholarship for the GDL. I moved home during Covid 19 and earned my own money in a small local business. I then went into teaching and earned my own money. My parents help were they can but are working class. I’m the first from my family to go to university.

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Millytante · 21/09/2026 20:59

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 21/09/2026 19:04

Yabu.

I got a 2:2. I FAFO at uni - did no work, had too much fun and that was my result. Absolutely does not reflect my smarts and did hold me back when it came to my teaching career - I couldn’t do the degree at the teaching uni I wanted as they wanted 2:1s.

ultimately I had to work harder but I don’t see a grade I got at 20 a measure of my intelligence for life. I was young and too interested in the uni drama, very much living for the moment 😂. I know I’m clever and I’m now considered one of the best and most knowledgable teachers in my school.

tldr - get over it ❤️

What she said 👆🏼

LaraF89 · 21/09/2026 20:48

I went to an average university, not the red brick type. Spent 3 years eating cheesy chips, hanging out with my then boyfriend & not overly applying myself resulting in a 2:2. I’ve had a career spanning 20 years & now earn much more than the vast majority of my friends!

Yourcatisnotsorry · 21/09/2026 20:47

I have a senior role in finance and work with a lot of corporate lawyers and most don’t have a first. I’m not aware of any grad scheme that states a first is required. If you didn’t even apply for the jobs you wanted you didn’t give yourself a shot. It’s not your qualification that’s stopping you.

Withoutwings · 21/09/2026 20:46

onedayillmoveon · 21/09/2026 20:37

In the longer term I’m not sure, but for the near future I want to stay in teaching and give it a decent go.

I hope you enjoy it - stranger things have happened. I think doing nothing is the worst thing for your confidence. You need to heal - to forgive yourself.

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