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To think my husband did not go too far and they should just get over it ?

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ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:03

AIBU to think my husband did not go too far with the comment?

Husband and I have two boys. Our eldest has just started school this September and our youngest isn't even 4 weeks old.When we had our first, DH took 6 months paternity leave because his workplace offers it. He then spoke to work and took another 6 months unpaid. We got used to looking after our son and sharing everything, and honestly it was lovely. My side of family have never really understood it. A lot of the older women in my family made comments about why DH would want to take so much time off and seemed to think it was strange. His family are much more progressive about it. His dad actually said that if he'd had the opportunity to take a year off when his children were young he absolutely would have but it wasn't really a norm back the. Not saying it is the norm now but lots more places are starting to at least offer 6 months paternity.
We've now had our second baby and DH is doing exactly the same thing again 6 months paid paternity followed by 6 months unpaid. It works for us financially and more importantly, it's what we've both agreed we want.

Last week we went to my aunt's house. She's in her early 80s and was meeting our new baby for the first time.At one point the baby started crying and DH took him from me to settle him. DH too does a lot of the nappy changes, feeds, getting up in the night etc because we're both his parents and that's just how we've always done things.My aunt watched DH with the baby and said to him, "Isn't that your wife's job?"DH laughed and and carried on.
Her daughter, who is in her 50s, then joined in and started ranting at DH about how men and women have different roles, how he shouldn't be doing everything for me, etc. DH initially tried to laugh it off but she kept going and eventually he snapped.

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you." The room went completely silent. I was honestly shocked. I agree that she was being incredibly rude and I don't think there's anything remotely wrong with DH taking paternity leave or looking after his own children. But I also think bringing her weight into it was completely unnecessary.

DH says he doesn't regret saying it because she'd been going on at him for ages and he wanted to shut the conversation down. He also pointed out that she had no problem criticising our marriage and parenting while apparently being offended when he responded. I think he could have told her to mind her own business without commenting on her weight.

My family now think DH needs to apologise I have told my mum to just let it go if the aunt and her daughter are that upset about it, its not as though she sees my husband often. This is not the first time someone has snapped at the them, it happened over summer from a different relative.

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Coffeewinecake · 20/09/2026 15:22

Lexy2345 · 20/09/2026 15:17

It's irrelevant about how much paternity leave he's taken in the past and is taking now. He's simply doing what the majority of fathers do these days, and looking after his baby along with you. Auntie and cousin sound old-fashioned and completely out of step, but his response was breathtakingly rude. Why on earth didn't he simply tell them that the child has two parents who care for him equally, instead of resorting to a childish insult?
He sounds bloody awful.

I do think it is relevant as that is the background to the constant criticism of him - that he has equalled his wife in shared care of the baby since birth and that is in some way lessening of him as man.

I am not sure that it is true that the majority of men share care in this way.
It may be true that they would like to.

I do think think that both should have had some stock phrases to shut it down. OP, especially, should have supported him since it was her own family.

wow217 · 20/09/2026 15:20

x2boys · 20/09/2026 14:10

Hmm

Indeed

TheBers · 20/09/2026 15:19

Hardly role model behaviour. Sweating, personal insults and name calling, seriously?
Couldn’t he deal he not stop the conversation like an adult.

Lexy2345 · 20/09/2026 15:17

It's irrelevant about how much paternity leave he's taken in the past and is taking now. He's simply doing what the majority of fathers do these days, and looking after his baby along with you. Auntie and cousin sound old-fashioned and completely out of step, but his response was breathtakingly rude. Why on earth didn't he simply tell them that the child has two parents who care for him equally, instead of resorting to a childish insult?
He sounds bloody awful.

Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 20/09/2026 15:17

She was out of order going on, but that doesn't negate the fact your husband should apologise and mean it. Both of you know that.

He needs to learn to stand up for himself without resorting to childish personal insults about someone else appearance you'd expect to only hear in the playground. Is he usually this immature? I would be embarrassed by my dh if he said that.

Happyd · 20/09/2026 15:16

Team DH , if your going to give it , you’ve got to learn to take it

Ohnobackagain · 20/09/2026 15:14

@ForFancyNavyLion did you stick up for
him to your Aunt? I would have said ‘we both want to share the parenting - we neither of us want to miss out’ or ‘things have changed for the better in our view’. Of course he shouldn’t have mentioned weight, but that’s the only bit he should apologise for. They can apologise for giving him such a hard time - do they think he’s less of a man? They are out of order but I’d have shut them down if they wouldn’t give it a rest.

ChimneyPot · 20/09/2026 15:13

He should definitely apologise.
Something like “ I apologise for my inappropriate and rude response to your inappropriateness and rudeness. I am disappointed that I did not find a better way of stopping your bad behaviour and being a better example to my child of how to deal with nastiness in others”

JHound · 20/09/2026 15:13

I will say the only bit that would make me uncomfortable is my spouse swearing at my family member - I missed it was your aunt. But then I would have shut it down long before my husband felt the need to step in.

If he needs to apologise for his fatphobia they need to apologise for their sexism.

Makebelieveanotherlife · 20/09/2026 15:13

Mirsine · 20/09/2026 15:10

I’m probs in the minority here, but I’m team husband.

If you don’t want somebody to be rude to you then don’t be rude first. Only give what you can take back.

I’m team dh too. He did fine by me.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/09/2026 15:13

Applesonthelawn · 20/09/2026 15:09

It's a poorly handled situation all round. I probably wouldn't apologise unless they also extended an apology about the sexism. I think they were more at fault than him for launching the tirade at him in the first place, but then you were in their home and you have to be polite as a visitor, and it was a very personal and unnecessary comment too. But all are guilty really.

Agree. OP's DH was rude... But he was also goaded into it by incredibly rude behaviour.

Makebelieveanotherlife · 20/09/2026 15:12

KellyJonesLeatherTrousers · 20/09/2026 14:11

What a shame he turned something so positive and threw away an opportunity to reeducate your family into a massively inappropriate personal insult. He absolutely needs to apologies.

Nah and 80yo isn’t going to change. So good for him for shutting them up.

Shego · 20/09/2026 15:12

I don't think your dh has anything to apologise for. At least not until he gets an apology first.

My dh didn't get anything like that level of paternity leave so he ended up being a sahp as I was the higher earner. That is as 20+ years ago and he never got any negative comments.

The biggest thing I can't understand here though is why after 4 years of it YOU didn't put your aunt firmly in her place well before now. I would absolutely have stood up for my DH if I had ever heard any of my family giving him grief.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/09/2026 15:12

MyNameIsTina · 20/09/2026 14:09

All that preamble about what a great dad he is etc etc and really it's just that he's been a twat about her weight. He should apologise for his comments.

Only if the aunt and her daughter apologise. It was childish tir for tat. But apologising without them also apologising would legitimise their awful behaviour.

Mirsine · 20/09/2026 15:10

I’m probs in the minority here, but I’m team husband.

If you don’t want somebody to be rude to you then don’t be rude first. Only give what you can take back.

Fingerscrossed22 · 20/09/2026 15:10

glendabrownlow · 20/09/2026 14:14

I'm afraid I'm more on your DH's side. Yes he was rude but your aunt and her daughter seem to have goaded him until he snapped. IMO they deserved it, who the hell thinks it's ok to criticise a man for being a good parent? Just don't bother visiting them again.

Agree!

Applesonthelawn · 20/09/2026 15:09

It's a poorly handled situation all round. I probably wouldn't apologise unless they also extended an apology about the sexism. I think they were more at fault than him for launching the tirade at him in the first place, but then you were in their home and you have to be polite as a visitor, and it was a very personal and unnecessary comment too. But all are guilty really.

Greenmouldycheese · 20/09/2026 15:09

YankSplaining · 20/09/2026 15:00

Are all personal remarks fair game, then? Is he “allowed” to come after her for other physical characteristics, or is fat the only permissible one? Would “mind your own dried-up cunt and saggy tits, you prune-faced old hag” have been all right?

Yes that would be fine. She gave it so she can take it back.

JHound · 20/09/2026 15:08

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:03

AIBU to think my husband did not go too far with the comment?

Husband and I have two boys. Our eldest has just started school this September and our youngest isn't even 4 weeks old.When we had our first, DH took 6 months paternity leave because his workplace offers it. He then spoke to work and took another 6 months unpaid. We got used to looking after our son and sharing everything, and honestly it was lovely. My side of family have never really understood it. A lot of the older women in my family made comments about why DH would want to take so much time off and seemed to think it was strange. His family are much more progressive about it. His dad actually said that if he'd had the opportunity to take a year off when his children were young he absolutely would have but it wasn't really a norm back the. Not saying it is the norm now but lots more places are starting to at least offer 6 months paternity.
We've now had our second baby and DH is doing exactly the same thing again 6 months paid paternity followed by 6 months unpaid. It works for us financially and more importantly, it's what we've both agreed we want.

Last week we went to my aunt's house. She's in her early 80s and was meeting our new baby for the first time.At one point the baby started crying and DH took him from me to settle him. DH too does a lot of the nappy changes, feeds, getting up in the night etc because we're both his parents and that's just how we've always done things.My aunt watched DH with the baby and said to him, "Isn't that your wife's job?"DH laughed and and carried on.
Her daughter, who is in her 50s, then joined in and started ranting at DH about how men and women have different roles, how he shouldn't be doing everything for me, etc. DH initially tried to laugh it off but she kept going and eventually he snapped.

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you." The room went completely silent. I was honestly shocked. I agree that she was being incredibly rude and I don't think there's anything remotely wrong with DH taking paternity leave or looking after his own children. But I also think bringing her weight into it was completely unnecessary.

DH says he doesn't regret saying it because she'd been going on at him for ages and he wanted to shut the conversation down. He also pointed out that she had no problem criticising our marriage and parenting while apparently being offended when he responded. I think he could have told her to mind her own business without commenting on her weight.

My family now think DH needs to apologise I have told my mum to just let it go if the aunt and her daughter are that upset about it, its not as though she sees my husband often. This is not the first time someone has snapped at the them, it happened over summer from a different relative.

Your husband’s absolutely in the right. Yes her weight is irrelevant but when they go low sometimes it’s fine to go even lower.

I will never understand women criticising men for being involved parents.

5foot5 · 20/09/2026 15:08

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:38

There were no kids in the room other than baby who is not even a month old who he was trying to put to sleep and my cousin thought that should be my job and kept ranting at him

What I don't understand is why you didn't step in before this and tell the nosy old biddy to mind her own business.

I am more sympathetic to your DH than to the awful relatives but I do think he could have handled it better. IMO he would have been perfectly within his rights to snap at her and tell her to back off without losing the moral high ground by making a personal comment.

Ihatelittlefriendsusan · 20/09/2026 15:05

SwanRivers · 20/09/2026 14:06

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you."

And you've had two kids with this rude prick?

I'm so sorry.

Jesus men can't won cant they.

Say nothing and they are weak and pathetic, stand up for their wofe/partner and they are rude and people should have sympathy for the op.

@ForFancyNavyLion your dh owes her an apology for bringing her weight into it, but she asked for it so it wouldn't be a hill I would die on.

I love that your dh is ao actively involved and clearly very happy to stand up for his family unit. Good on that man!

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 15:04

YankSplaining · 20/09/2026 15:00

Are all personal remarks fair game, then? Is he “allowed” to come after her for other physical characteristics, or is fat the only permissible one? Would “mind your own dried-up cunt and saggy tits, you prune-faced old hag” have been all right?

I would have called her fat dh did not call her fat, told her to focus on her weight, 2 or so hours before that she was ranting to me and my husband about wanting to lose weight, I told her to get into cycling. She also made a backhanded comment, saying how I was so fat (verbatim, bare in mind she is overweight and in last pregnancy was 20+ years ago) a few weeks ago before I gave birth, which was why I was telling her to get a watt bike. I said yes I was fat, I did not get offended, yet she is now 'sad' and upset. She can dish but cannot take.

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thatsgotit · 20/09/2026 15:01

She sounds insufferable and it's no wonder he snapped, but he's a grown adult and should have controlled himself. He sounds like a great dad/partner overall, but this wasn't an acceptable way to deal with the situation.

1983Louise · 20/09/2026 15:00

Well done your husband, bet that shut them up........

YankSplaining · 20/09/2026 15:00

Greenmouldycheese · 20/09/2026 14:50

He did nothing wrong. They were extremely rude so he gave them some of their own medicine. They will think before they speak next time.

Are all personal remarks fair game, then? Is he “allowed” to come after her for other physical characteristics, or is fat the only permissible one? Would “mind your own dried-up cunt and saggy tits, you prune-faced old hag” have been all right?