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To think my husband did not go too far and they should just get over it ?

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ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:03

AIBU to think my husband did not go too far with the comment?

Husband and I have two boys. Our eldest has just started school this September and our youngest isn't even 4 weeks old.When we had our first, DH took 6 months paternity leave because his workplace offers it. He then spoke to work and took another 6 months unpaid. We got used to looking after our son and sharing everything, and honestly it was lovely. My side of family have never really understood it. A lot of the older women in my family made comments about why DH would want to take so much time off and seemed to think it was strange. His family are much more progressive about it. His dad actually said that if he'd had the opportunity to take a year off when his children were young he absolutely would have but it wasn't really a norm back the. Not saying it is the norm now but lots more places are starting to at least offer 6 months paternity.
We've now had our second baby and DH is doing exactly the same thing again 6 months paid paternity followed by 6 months unpaid. It works for us financially and more importantly, it's what we've both agreed we want.

Last week we went to my aunt's house. She's in her early 80s and was meeting our new baby for the first time.At one point the baby started crying and DH took him from me to settle him. DH too does a lot of the nappy changes, feeds, getting up in the night etc because we're both his parents and that's just how we've always done things.My aunt watched DH with the baby and said to him, "Isn't that your wife's job?"DH laughed and and carried on.
Her daughter, who is in her 50s, then joined in and started ranting at DH about how men and women have different roles, how he shouldn't be doing everything for me, etc. DH initially tried to laugh it off but she kept going and eventually he snapped.

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you." The room went completely silent. I was honestly shocked. I agree that she was being incredibly rude and I don't think there's anything remotely wrong with DH taking paternity leave or looking after his own children. But I also think bringing her weight into it was completely unnecessary.

DH says he doesn't regret saying it because she'd been going on at him for ages and he wanted to shut the conversation down. He also pointed out that she had no problem criticising our marriage and parenting while apparently being offended when he responded. I think he could have told her to mind her own business without commenting on her weight.

My family now think DH needs to apologise I have told my mum to just let it go if the aunt and her daughter are that upset about it, its not as though she sees my husband often. This is not the first time someone has snapped at the them, it happened over summer from a different relative.

OP posts:
Lookatmelookatmedontevenlookatme · 20/09/2026 17:13

Yes he went too far. Their narrow minded comments needed addressing but what he said was a personal comment intended to hurt. I think that’s really awful, OP, sorry.

RealEagle · 20/09/2026 17:09

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

Unmanly! the aunt has joined the thread.

Mumtotornadoes · 20/09/2026 17:09

He was vile.
Shutting it down. Absolutely. Even bringing up her own parenting or relationship would have been justified. But he didn't make any kind of point or anything. He just said something incredibly derogatory and childish and made himself look even worse.

theyneverchangedothey · 20/09/2026 17:06

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

Fuck me. 1865 called, they’d like you to return, immediately.

Glitchymn1 · 20/09/2026 17:05

Neither covered themselves in glory! He shouldn’t have sworn or brought weight into out for his sake.

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 17:04

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

12 months off for the father of the baby is odd isn't it? When the mother is having the maternity leave too. Never known this happen in my life, not in the UK.

Helgirl666 · 20/09/2026 17:03

The fact is they were attempting to shame and in essence belittle his masculinity. He just gave a little taste of their own medicine as we all know that (right or wrong) commenting on a woman's weight is classic shaming and questioning of a woman's femininity. Neither is right but I can understand him snapping and going for the one thing he knew she would be most sensitive about. I guess others have already said an apology non apology is appropriate in this situation and move on staying out of each other's way. Oh and good for you and your husband for moving into the 21st century x

BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 17:02

Eightfor15 · 20/09/2026 16:41

It had everything to do with the conversation though. She had been saying she needed to do something about her weight. Had she been talking about knitting, that's what he would have reported with.

Please read OPs posts before constructing your strawman argument.

No, it's an entirely nonsensical insult. I have read the OP's posts. There is absolutely no connection between the cousin's weight and the DH's decision to take paternity leave. None.

SpecialShark · 20/09/2026 17:01

This opinion won't be popular, but your aunt has a good point. Men and women do have different roles. 6 months paternity.... fine, I guess. But his role in that is to care for you and baby while you get into the swing of motherhood.

12 months off is ridiculous and unmanly. Your husband knows it, and she touched a nerve, which is why he bit back. He should apologise for being rude.

BatchCookBabe · 20/09/2026 16:59

@ForFancyNavyLion

I understand why he snapped, and you are absolutely correct that a man should be looking after the babies in the same manner/as much as the mother of the babies if he is not working, but he lost any moral high ground by slagging off her weight, so I am saying YABU. He could have said 'keep out of our business, it's got nothing to do with you,' without fat shaming her.

Also, I would love to know who this glossy and magical employer is who gives men 6 months off for paternity leave with full pay, and also 6 months on top unpaid. That's a lot of income lost, and national insurance contributions too. Is this in the UK, because I don't know any companies who would offer this/allow this.

Goinggreymammy · 20/09/2026 16:59

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:27

This is what he said. Seems as though calling someone fat is a sin yet being sexist and misogynistic is okay. She has been at it for 4 years this was not the first run in, it is just the first time my husband decided to just tell to stop. NO before people jump at my throat for 'body shaming' I am not encouraging that behaviour and I have said to him I wish he approached it a different way, he has said he is sorry for embarrassing me but he won't be apologising to her, she has spent 4 years calling him names, being sexist, seemingly uncomfortable with the fact that he wants to be involved in fatherhood.

You said he rarely sees her. So how has she spent 4 years calling him names?
I think you and your husband are sensitive about comments on your parenting choices but it certainly doesn't excuse his comment.

WorthyMintKoala · 20/09/2026 16:54

Both are wrong but one person started it. Will she be apologising? She was rude first so she can apologise first. Then he should.

HouseBee · 20/09/2026 16:54

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 16:10

Who said I have never stepped in

Well you didn’t step this time.
Im not sure if you’ve stepped in much in the 17 years when your aunt has called him names too but it certainly hasn’t changed her behaviour.

And it’s easy to say ‘oh at 50yo, she isn’t going to change’ but she 35yo when it all started…

And then you conveniently ‘fir gut’ to give the context where tge aunt said herself she wanted to work on her weight, which makes your dh answer totally acceptable rather than rude (but FOAFO).

I mean if you’re happy fr you aunt to insult you because you feel sad for her (which btw sounds self inflicted), 5then go ahead. Spend time with her.
Just dint subject your dh and your dcs to it.

House12 · 20/09/2026 16:51

TheBers · 20/09/2026 16:36

It’s not just the weight comment. Telling someone to “fuck off” is really aggressive. Sad so many posters think it’s normal language.
And the stupid “nosey” comment is the insult of a playground. I’d worry he’s not got the communication skills to bring up children.

I mean all he had to say was he finds the repeated comments on parenting insulting and they need to stop. And follow up with the consequence ie we won’t visit or won’t visit with the kids etc.

Pearls. Clutched.

emmetgirl · 20/09/2026 16:51

I’m with your DH. Where the fuck do people get off thinking they can say what they like about how you and DH choose to look after your children (which I think is fantastic by the way)? I’d have probably done exactly the same. I’m sick of people thinking they can do what they like then get all offended when you tell them to fuck off.

LVPLVT · 20/09/2026 16:49

“Thanks for your feedback” and repeat as necessary. No need to launch personal attacks about the way a woman looks.

PussyGaylore · 20/09/2026 16:49

He wanted to shut it down and that’s what he did. I wouldn’t be encouraging him to apologise. If she can’t take it then she shouldn’t dish it out. Team DH here.

theyneverchangedothey · 20/09/2026 16:47

TheBers · 20/09/2026 16:36

It’s not just the weight comment. Telling someone to “fuck off” is really aggressive. Sad so many posters think it’s normal language.
And the stupid “nosey” comment is the insult of a playground. I’d worry he’s not got the communication skills to bring up children.

I mean all he had to say was he finds the repeated comments on parenting insulting and they need to stop. And follow up with the consequence ie we won’t visit or won’t visit with the kids etc.

There are moments when nothing but a “Fuck Off” will do. I do not use it very often myself, but when I do? Highly effective.
And no, it’s not a lack of vocabulary or intelligence or communication skills.

HouseBee · 20/09/2026 16:47

At the same time I do understand why he snapped. It wasn't a random comment out of nowhere they'd been going on at him about our parenting, our relationship and the way we've chosen to divide things for quite a while

@ForFancyNavyLion why are you still seeing them? Even more so with your dh?
Why have not told them to f** off years ago. That your parenting is not up fur discussion?

Honestly, your dh has much more patience that I would have

JustSawJohnny · 20/09/2026 16:46

Play arsehole games, get arsehole prizes.

She asked for it and she got it.

Hopefully it will help her to keep her opinions to herself.

katepilar · 20/09/2026 16:43

Alwayschillyatnight · 20/09/2026 14:08

Live by the sword, die by thebsword. She should have backed off when asked. I perso ally would try and avoid personal insults, but i can understand he was pushed past the point where he was able to moderate that. He could maybe say 'I shouldn't have commented on your personal appearance, but I will not apologise for asking you to back off' but that's the most i would suggest.

yes, this.

Grumpyoldcat · 20/09/2026 16:43

He probably should apologise and so should your relative. If neither will make the first move you will have to take it on the chin and carry on. Dont let your family take it out on you.

phoenixrosehere · 20/09/2026 16:42

TheBers · 20/09/2026 16:36

It’s not just the weight comment. Telling someone to “fuck off” is really aggressive. Sad so many posters think it’s normal language.
And the stupid “nosey” comment is the insult of a playground. I’d worry he’s not got the communication skills to bring up children.

I mean all he had to say was he finds the repeated comments on parenting insulting and they need to stop. And follow up with the consequence ie we won’t visit or won’t visit with the kids etc.

Or some of us think he has had enough of their comments over the years and in the heat of the moment told them to f-k off.

Are people not allowed to lose their cool after being berated repeatedly?

It’s all fine and dandy to say what he could have done and considering what they have said in the past and have pushed another family member over the edge to do the same thing, I wouldn’t be so quick to make it out as if he is more at fault than them.

Eightfor15 · 20/09/2026 16:41

BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 16:36

I think he did go too far and that personal insults are never appropriate. It was just a personal attack that had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation (and makes no sense in any case). He lost any moral high ground he had, and he should apologise for the insult.

At the same time, I think your relatives behaved badly as well. Their opinions are, frankly speaking, pathetic. They should keep those views to themselves. But responding to them as your husband did achieves nothing except raising the temperature. A lot of people on MN seem to thrive on drama, so they probably approve. But you're not living in some ridiculous reality TV show. In real life, most people say things they regret from time to time, but they still find a way to move on.

It had everything to do with the conversation though. She had been saying she needed to do something about her weight. Had she been talking about knitting, that's what he would have reported with.

Please read OPs posts before constructing your strawman argument.

Awkwardisfunny · 20/09/2026 16:41

ForFancyNavyLion · 20/09/2026 14:03

AIBU to think my husband did not go too far with the comment?

Husband and I have two boys. Our eldest has just started school this September and our youngest isn't even 4 weeks old.When we had our first, DH took 6 months paternity leave because his workplace offers it. He then spoke to work and took another 6 months unpaid. We got used to looking after our son and sharing everything, and honestly it was lovely. My side of family have never really understood it. A lot of the older women in my family made comments about why DH would want to take so much time off and seemed to think it was strange. His family are much more progressive about it. His dad actually said that if he'd had the opportunity to take a year off when his children were young he absolutely would have but it wasn't really a norm back the. Not saying it is the norm now but lots more places are starting to at least offer 6 months paternity.
We've now had our second baby and DH is doing exactly the same thing again 6 months paid paternity followed by 6 months unpaid. It works for us financially and more importantly, it's what we've both agreed we want.

Last week we went to my aunt's house. She's in her early 80s and was meeting our new baby for the first time.At one point the baby started crying and DH took him from me to settle him. DH too does a lot of the nappy changes, feeds, getting up in the night etc because we're both his parents and that's just how we've always done things.My aunt watched DH with the baby and said to him, "Isn't that your wife's job?"DH laughed and and carried on.
Her daughter, who is in her 50s, then joined in and started ranting at DH about how men and women have different roles, how he shouldn't be doing everything for me, etc. DH initially tried to laugh it off but she kept going and eventually he snapped.

He told her: "oh fuck off If you focused more on your weight nosey what I do for my family wouldn't matter to you." The room went completely silent. I was honestly shocked. I agree that she was being incredibly rude and I don't think there's anything remotely wrong with DH taking paternity leave or looking after his own children. But I also think bringing her weight into it was completely unnecessary.

DH says he doesn't regret saying it because she'd been going on at him for ages and he wanted to shut the conversation down. He also pointed out that she had no problem criticising our marriage and parenting while apparently being offended when he responded. I think he could have told her to mind her own business without commenting on her weight.

My family now think DH needs to apologise I have told my mum to just let it go if the aunt and her daughter are that upset about it, its not as though she sees my husband often. This is not the first time someone has snapped at the them, it happened over summer from a different relative.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Them being sexist and insulting your partner for (effectively) not being a 'proper' man, doesn't mean he can insult someone for their weight.

But I also wouldn't be expecting an apology. Both sides need to think about their behaviour.

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