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Asked my Ex to buy a second pair of school shoes

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Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 11:22

My daughter is with me 60 percent of the time, 40 with her dad.
last year I was constantly getting phone calls late at night asking for her school shoes when she was staying at his and needing them the next day. I suggested several times he buys a second pair to have at his and he never did.
this year I took her get her shoes and she has reached a age where she is extremely fussy, we must of tried on about 30 pairs. Finally found a pair of hush puppies she approved of and found comfortable.
i sent him the link and said can you please purchase a pair so she always has a pair to wear whatever house she is in which we know she will like. He begrudgingly bought them.
he is now kicking off at me this morning as she has gone to his with school uniform for tomorrow and has MY pair of shoes not his, the ones he specifically bought. They are the exact same pair of shoes..
claiming it was a waste of money and he shouldn’t of had to buy any. FYI I buy 99 percent of her belongings and he has no issue in me buying her a phone etc and taking her on holidays etc, where he can’t be bothered to and would rather spend the money he has ( he is not struggling) on himself and his new partner on weekends away etc, he has never once suggested doing that for his daughter even before his partner was around.
I have said if he is that worried he can come over and swap them. Am i unreasonable to have suggested he bought a pair?

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THisbackwithavengeance · 20/09/2026 13:23

Of course it’s not a waste of money having 2 pairs of school shoes that are worn every day for long periods in all weathers.

As a poster pointed out, men don’t think anything spent on themselves is a waste of money but begrudge a child the shoes on their feet and the coat on their back. Cunts.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 20/09/2026 13:22

Myfridgeiscool · 20/09/2026 12:28

Your ex is a dick OP.
My ex wrote ‘bought by daddy’ in DD’s school shoes.
Having doubles of everything is the solution to removing the need for communication and disputes.
YANBU in asking him to buy shoes to be used at his house.
My ex used to hold school clothing and lunch boxes hostage at his house, he got fed up when there was no reaction to his dick head antics.

Oh my goodness, they are dicks.
The less communication the better, buying an extra pair of shoes is a small price to pay if it limits communication.

Maray1967 · 20/09/2026 13:19

QPZM · 20/09/2026 13:10

Fair enough I'll leave it then.

But best of luck with the teenage years.

It is surely hard for DC to move between two houses and having a second pair of school shoes seems sensible.

My two often forgot things at 9-12 and they were in this house full time. They got better and apart from one cockup before a DofE expedition they were fine by 14-18.

OP, your Ex is petty and unpleasant.

Suchevilforebodings · 20/09/2026 13:16

Sorry, but I find it utterly bizarre that you would think she needs two pairs of the exact same school shoes. It just doesn't make any sense to me. Why would she need two instead of just sending the shoes to his house, especially when she is clearly going to his on school days when she is already wearing school shoes?

I completely get your point about him not buying enough stuff for his daughter, and your point in that department is valid. But a better way to go about it would have been to get him to buy school shoes, not to buy a second pair of school shoes.

All you've done here is give him ammo so he can bang on about how unreasonable you are making him fork out for things she doesn't need.

FirmSnake · 20/09/2026 13:14

QPZM · 20/09/2026 13:10

Fair enough I'll leave it then.

But best of luck with the teenage years.

Is a spare pair of school shoes the new gateway drug or something?

QPZM · 20/09/2026 13:10

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:53

You have a fixation on making it my child’s responsibility when she neither asked to be born or asked to be raised in two separate households with a father who has refused to communicate effectively with me since day dot. Her age is irrelevant she’s a child

Fair enough I'll leave it then.

But best of luck with the teenage years.

MCF86 · 20/09/2026 13:09

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 13:00

I already explained it was a one off event as there was a change to her pe days last week as settling in weeks

Apologies, missed that one. In that case yes, he's being ridiculous!

Phineyj · 20/09/2026 13:08

I think what you did is sensible given his multiple requests in the past.

My DD and the two kids next door spend a lot of time in and out of the two houses and shoes, coats and keys do end up in the wrong one.

I can't imagine how annoying it would be with physical distance and a hostile ex!

If she always leaves the shoes by the respective front doors when not in use, it's easy.

fuckeditupbadly · 20/09/2026 13:05

QPZM · 20/09/2026 11:53

The issue is you don't feel your pre teen should be responsible for remembering her own shoes 'because she's a child'.

When is the responsibility going to start?

Fair enough she forgets them but she also 'forgets' to ask her dad to stop at your house on the way to school when they're passing?

Nah, come on OP.

I think this is unfair. Children do not ask to be split between two homes and have a whole load of logistical crap handed to them at a very young age. I teach teens and frequently deal with missing equipment because its at one or other house. Its not reasonable to ask kids to have adult levels of organisation and equally unfair for one of two parents to shoulder the load entirely. I have an ex who was equally infuriating about this sort of thing and it is incredibly wearing. My only suggestion OP is that maybe the second pair could have been a cheap back up and the 'consequence' of your dd forgetting them is not getting to wear the Kickers for a day, which might aid the process in future.

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 13:00

RancidRuby · 20/09/2026 12:57

I don’t know why you’re getting a hard time, OP. It seems a perfectly sensible idea to have additional shoes/uniform etc when a child has two homes, regardless of said child’s age. It sounds as if your ex can afford to provide the extra pair so I don’t know what some posters are getting their knickers in a twist about.

Exactly. Anything to make child’s life easier surely?

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Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 13:00

MCF86 · 20/09/2026 12:58

If she's gone with the wrong pair, that suggests they were both at your house, so it was an entirely pointless exercise anyway. YANBU to expect him to buy school shoes, but YABU to think they needed to be an extra pair if the set up means they still go between houses anyway.

I already explained it was a one off event as there was a change to her pe days last week as settling in weeks

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MCF86 · 20/09/2026 12:58

If she's gone with the wrong pair, that suggests they were both at your house, so it was an entirely pointless exercise anyway. YANBU to expect him to buy school shoes, but YABU to think they needed to be an extra pair if the set up means they still go between houses anyway.

RancidRuby · 20/09/2026 12:57

I don’t know why you’re getting a hard time, OP. It seems a perfectly sensible idea to have additional shoes/uniform etc when a child has two homes, regardless of said child’s age. It sounds as if your ex can afford to provide the extra pair so I don’t know what some posters are getting their knickers in a twist about.

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:55

QPZM · 20/09/2026 12:44

What exactly do I want to do with it?

Or is she in senior school so you're a bit reluctant to say?

Either way, any preteen and the two adults responsible for them should be able to take responsibility for remembering a pair of shoes.

Incidentally, what would you all have done if there was no money to throw at the problem?

The incidence of having no money is not relevant either as we could all sit and come up with hypothetical answers for different scenarios but I don’t need to, I only need solution to the one I am living in

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Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:53

QPZM · 20/09/2026 12:44

What exactly do I want to do with it?

Or is she in senior school so you're a bit reluctant to say?

Either way, any preteen and the two adults responsible for them should be able to take responsibility for remembering a pair of shoes.

Incidentally, what would you all have done if there was no money to throw at the problem?

You have a fixation on making it my child’s responsibility when she neither asked to be born or asked to be raised in two separate households with a father who has refused to communicate effectively with me since day dot. Her age is irrelevant she’s a child

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QPZM · 20/09/2026 12:44

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:38

I know exactly what you intend to do with my child’s age and I’m not getting into it. Her age is irrelevant she’s a child

What exactly do I want to do with it?

Or is she in senior school so you're a bit reluctant to say?

Either way, any preteen and the two adults responsible for them should be able to take responsibility for remembering a pair of shoes.

Incidentally, what would you all have done if there was no money to throw at the problem?

Wonderones · 20/09/2026 12:43

I'm confused by the response you're getting here. I always buy my children two pairs of school shoes. I would hate to have to wear one pair day in day out. Yanbu , your ex can buy a pair of sodding shoes.

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:42

Gettingbysomehow · 20/09/2026 12:41

During the brief period before I got full custody of DS I couldnt let DS take anything to his fathers as he wouldnt let DS bring it back. Clothes, toys, gaming stuff all stolen by ex as bargaining tools.
It was exhausting. Neither would he get him clothes, shoes or uniform or christmas and birthday gifts and he refused any maintenance. Id asked him what he'd eaten and he'd say dad gave me some bread instead of a proper meal after school. His father always slept in so he didnt have breakfast either and was always late for school. He'd come home unwashed with teeth unbrushed.
After a year of this I was awarded full custody.

What a sorry excuse of a man. I am glad for your child’s sake you got full custody.

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Gettingbysomehow · 20/09/2026 12:41

During the brief period before I got full custody of DS I couldnt let DS take anything to his fathers as he wouldnt let DS bring it back. Clothes, toys, gaming stuff all stolen by ex as bargaining tools.
It was exhausting. Neither would he get him clothes, shoes or uniform or christmas and birthday gifts and he refused any maintenance. Id asked him what he'd eaten and he'd say dad gave me some bread instead of a proper meal after school. His father always slept in so he didnt have breakfast either and was always late for school. He'd come home unwashed with teeth unbrushed.
After a year of this I was awarded full custody.

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:40

Mosaic80 · 20/09/2026 12:32

Yanbu. I’ve had this situation with late night or early morning stress multiple times with school shoes/trainers for Ds. His dad doesn’t buy him a second pair but it would be really helpful if he would!

I’d just grey rock him, don’t Justify, Argue, Defend or Explain (JADE) and if a text doesn’t need a response just don’t send one.

It’s a nightmare. I think the posters suggesting that the emphasis should be on the child or in this case me as her mother are missing the point entirely. My frustration is why is it the primary parents responsibility for everything when they apparently have joint parental responsibility? ( which my ex likes to point out when it suits)

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TwinklyAmberSloth · 20/09/2026 12:40

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:11

But not his?

yours AND his. between the two of you. communicate.

If DD is with you, then YOU need to make sure the shoes are in her bag. If DD is with him then HE needs to make sure the shoes are in her bag.

FirmSnake · 20/09/2026 12:38

QPZM · 20/09/2026 12:31

Of course it wouldn't be an argument.

This is about all the adults involved, refusing to teach this child about responsibility when they're a pre teen, not an infant.

So what would be different if it were a pair of trainers? How does the style of shoe change the discussion?

Blackraven17 · 20/09/2026 12:38

QPZM · 20/09/2026 12:29

Yes but throwing common sense at a problem isn't as easy as throwing money at it.

There are so many people who could remember the shoes here.

The child
The parents
The stepparents

And the OP is still refusing to tell us how old this child is, other then 'pre teen'.

I know exactly what you intend to do with my child’s age and I’m not getting into it. Her age is irrelevant she’s a child

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pinotnow · 20/09/2026 12:37

@QPZM You are being so unreasonable - I wonder are you speaking from personal experience as a child or adult? My dc are 19 and 17 now and still split time between the two homes. Over the years we have had some frank conversations and ds1 especially has made me realise what it's been like for them going between the two houses. Not awful and life-destroying, but logistically difficult and a pita in some ways, and something that neither ex nor I have had to experience. My ds isn't entitled at all - he's hard-working, responsible and helpful, but I'll continue to do all I can to make the transitions smooth for them.

It doesn't matter if this child is 8, 9, 10 or 11, she shouldn't have to be more responsible than a 40 year old man for organising her life. My dc often felt they were more on it than their dad, who they are fond of but describe as 'not really a parent.'

UkeleleOrchestra · 20/09/2026 12:37

Suggestion - can you write ´Dad’ or whatever in the pair you bought too and then whichever pair end up at his house he’ll think it’s the pair he paid for.