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Was I the asshole?

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BadLayout · 19/09/2026 17:53

I’m on holiday in a European country.

Stopped at a tourist site that’s free to enter, and open air (so not a museum etc.).
The site contains a number of items of interest- let’s say they’re sculptures.

Lots of tourists wandering around, going from sculpture to sculpture, taking photos etc.

I got to a particular sculpture which is quite large and round and there weren’t many people at it. I was looking at it for a few second. Spotted a man at the other side of the sculpture waving at me. I cocked my head towards him to see what he wanted and he gestured to show that he wanted to take a photo but wanted me to move out of the way (literally flapped his wrist in a “shoo” motion and pointed to where I should stand instead) so I wouldn’t be in the way. I said it’s fine, I don’t mind if I’m in the background, and he said he wanted me to move because he just wanted a photo of the sculpture without anyone in it.

I laughed and stayed where I was until I was ready to move away and see the next sculpture.

He got very irate when I wouldn’t move, and started gesturing in quite an animated way for me to move out of his frame.

Interestingly, just as I was leaving, another man came along and the first man didn’t ask him to move at all.

Was IBU? Because I think that, if you’re a tourist amongst tourists at a busy sightseeing spot, you don’t get to dictate where people can and cannot stand.

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Morepositivemum · 20/09/2026 17:50

He was an asshole but you could have moved!!

Redsofacushionsandsnacks · 20/09/2026 17:49

Op, you are wasting an awful lot of mental energy on something totally irrelevant. Should you have moved for the photo? Yes. That is all. Don’t over think it. Not everything in life is something to get riled up about. You are literally shortening your own life span.

BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 17:45

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2026 17:33

Although I am a dyed-in-the-wool feminist, I genuinely don't view this interaction as being an example of sexism. The fact that he didn't ask the man to move means nothing.

Hmm

If you're going to quote me, you may wish to quote the post in its entirety.

JLou08 · 20/09/2026 17:41

Yes, you were the arsehole. Moving away for a few seconds so he could take a picture would have done you no harm, you just wanted to be an arsehole for the sake of it.

JMSA · 20/09/2026 17:40

If he had been polite, I’d have moved. But not when I’m shooed like a stray cat.
YANBU.

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2026 17:33

Although I am a dyed-in-the-wool feminist, I genuinely don't view this interaction as being an example of sexism. The fact that he didn't ask the man to move means nothing.

Hmm
BadgerBob · 20/09/2026 16:27

Yes, it is entirely possible that the hand gesture he made is perfectly acceptable in his culture. Without knowing which culture that is, I have no idea if that's the case.

But why wouldn't you step aside so he could take a picture? It is such a minor inconvenience that I hesitate to call it an inconvenience at all. Although I am a dyed-in-the-wool feminist, I genuinely don't view this interaction as being an example of sexism. The fact that he didn't ask the man to move means nothing. Maybe he thought there was no point in making the request again, after your response.

Neuronimo · 20/09/2026 16:07

YANBU I think you might have moved if he'd asked respectfully. I do think that photography has gone mad these days. I am short and often can't see objects of interest because of a sea of arms, iphones and ipads.

It particularly made me sad at Christ Church Oxford recently, I've no clear memory of what we'd seen. It even seems to happens at the theatre lately. It would be nice to be able to contemplate things without feeling under pressure to move.

Yetone · 20/09/2026 16:03

gabsdot45 · 20/09/2026 15:47

This happened to me once. There was a long sign with the name of the town in large letters and it had a bench in front of it.
I was sitting on the bench to the side but still in front of the sign along with a few other people
A young guy can't along and asked us to ask to move so that he could be in a photo in front of the sign. He gestured his request.
None of us moved and he was very irritated.
I think he was being unreasonable and so was your guy OP

Yes, we were asked at London Zoo by a couple of teachers if we could get out of the way of the ‘London Zoo’ sign so that they could take a picture of it. We had our picnic spread out!! They wanted to put the whole group next to the sign. We did move but I don’t think we would do again on reflection. Talk about entitled!

Fairyliz · 20/09/2026 16:01

As usual it’s not what you say it’s how you say it. Even if the man spoke a different language he could have smiled, pointed to his camera and then the sculpture. The op would have understood what he meant and probably moved.

If you want someone to do something which benefits you better to be nice to them.

SweatySpider321 · 20/09/2026 15:57

I would have done exactly the same as you in that situation. Why does his wish to take a picture take a priority over you looking at it? Sounds like classic male entitlement to me @BadLayout

seahorsessky · 20/09/2026 15:52

He probably didn't want to upset a strange woman by taking a photo that she is in without her permission. If he just wanted you to move for a second, I'd just have done that.
Now, if he was setting up to do an influencer video, then you wouldn't be unreasonable.

Yetone · 20/09/2026 15:48

Ponoka7 · 19/09/2026 17:57

Once upon a time we moved so people could take photos, it seems to be the norm that we don't do that anymore. If you could see from the point of being out if his photo, then, yes, you could have moved.

Well was that when people didn’t take photos all the time? Maybe when they had film in their camera that limited the amount of photos you could take.
I have always waited and never asked someone to move for a photo.

gabsdot45 · 20/09/2026 15:47

This happened to me once. There was a long sign with the name of the town in large letters and it had a bench in front of it.
I was sitting on the bench to the side but still in front of the sign along with a few other people
A young guy can't along and asked us to ask to move so that he could be in a photo in front of the sign. He gestured his request.
None of us moved and he was very irritated.
I think he was being unreasonable and so was your guy OP

RunningJo · 20/09/2026 15:45

If they asked politely, I’d have no issues. Wafting and ‘shooing’ me, probably not tbh.

crackerjackbaby · 20/09/2026 15:33

OP, why ask AIBU when every single POV that differs with yours, you take issue with. You obviously are quite proud of your little defiance, and want everyone else to agree.

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2026 15:29

TeenLifeMum · 20/09/2026 15:24

They don’t need to because people have already courteously not photo bombed.

Photo bombed? I don't think Op was doing that.

TeenLifeMum · 20/09/2026 15:24

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2026 15:09

Presumably not after they've rudely shooed you away?

They don’t need to because people have already courteously not photo bombed.

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2026 15:09

TeenLifeMum · 19/09/2026 19:06

In London people take photos on Westminster bridge and I move out of their way 🤷🏻‍♀️

Presumably not after they've rudely shooed you away?

pinkyredrose · 20/09/2026 14:59

ToadRage · 19/09/2026 18:25

I think it was quite rude of you to not move away so he could take a nice photo. It the place was crowded it may not have been a problem but you were the only one spoiling his picture and YATA.

Strange how he didn't shoo the man away then! Surely he would've ruined his 'nice photo' too.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 20/09/2026 12:58

There are ways of asking if you don't speak the same language. He was rude. I bet your bottom dollar he wouldn't have done that to a man.

cantthinkofagoodusername2026 · 19/09/2026 20:15

It completely depends on how he asked, and it sounds like he was very rude about it. I almost always move or wait when I see people taking photos, but if I was waved or shooed, I will take my sweet time.

Bigbumbigtum · 19/09/2026 19:26

He could have just taken the photo and if you were visible in it, its easy enough to edit you out. I do that all the time with my holiday pics. Delete all the people from the beach etc 😃

Error404FucksNotFound · 19/09/2026 19:25

I would have moved had he asked politely.
Shooing me with his hand?
Nope. I stay put. Fuck that.

BadLayout · 19/09/2026 19:23

Notsosweetcaroline · 19/09/2026 19:20

do You know his nationality? If you’re in Iceland doing tourist stuff he could have been from anywhere, again, I’d have just have moved, no biggie.

Not 100% sure of his nationality but guessing either Japanese or Taiwanese, based solely on appearances.

I’m not British but speak English, my native language, Italian, French, Spanish, German, and a little Russian. He was telling me to move in English.

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