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To think academics are seriously entitled??

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Bananavibez · 19/09/2026 14:34

Met a bunch of lecturers at party last night. Dont think ive ever met such an entitled bunch. Nice pay for minimal hours but complaining about how they have to answer loads of emails (??). One of them in their 60s actually admitted they would't meet the qualification requirements for their role if they were applying for it today.
So much bitching and whining and all i could think was "so how come you've stuck with this job for decades then, you could have gone out to work in industry if its so awful"...

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Sparklybat · 25/09/2026 08:34

MickyMoonshine · 25/09/2026 08:10

I’m only teaching 60 hours this academic year - yet I’ll still be working 50 hour weeks!

Exactly. I’ve got some new sessions this year and it’s taking me 3 - 4 hours to prepare one hour of teaching and that’s fast going!

MickyMoonshine · 25/09/2026 09:39

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 08:10

Giving too much role specific info would be outing.

Is your role really that unique? Then perhaps it’s not comparable to most academic roles.
I teach a course that is quite niche but my actual role is pretty standard compared to other academics.

MickyMoonshine · 25/09/2026 09:40

Sparklybat · 25/09/2026 08:34

Exactly. I’ve got some new sessions this year and it’s taking me 3 - 4 hours to prepare one hour of teaching and that’s fast going!

They’ve just reduced the hours we get for prep at my place. Doesn’t mean we can do it any faster but it does mean my workload looks like I can take on more duties!

titchy · 25/09/2026 10:01

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 08:10

Giving too much role specific info would be outing.

lol. How convenient. Saying ‘teaching only contract in a Post-92’ or ‘Reader in a red brick’ is hardly outing!

Im going to assume research does not form part of your job, and that you’re in a practitioner based field - nursing or teacher training for example.

Sartre · 25/09/2026 10:12

YoghurtPond · 21/09/2026 11:05

There’s an increasing trend in creative writing MAs and MFAs for the student to be working on the third part of a giant fantasy/sci-fi saga for their project, but for them to casually send you the 100,000-word preceding instalment too ‘because otherwise you won’t understand the world building and backstory’.

This happened to a colleague who is the first to admit being a pushover. This particular student was obsessed with H.P Lovecraft and talked about him for an hour solid in their first meeting. He then sent a manuscript he’d been working on which was essentially like a postmodernist retelling of At the Mountains of Madness and it was indeed around 70k words.

Anyway, that aside. Most of us academics are simply charming and not entitled whatsoever. The worst and rudest academic I have ever met was a classics professor. Nothing against the classics, I’ve met Mary Beard and she’s delightful but this prick was something else.

mondaytosunday · 25/09/2026 10:34

‘Nice pay’? Not so sure about that! And you do know that they work beyond the hours they actually teach? My DD had to interview academics for a research paper and it was a real insight into how they felt about their workload and conditions (they assumed she was a PhD student not the first year she actually was). Put her right off becoming one herself.

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 10:37

titchy · 25/09/2026 10:01

lol. How convenient. Saying ‘teaching only contract in a Post-92’ or ‘Reader in a red brick’ is hardly outing!

Im going to assume research does not form part of your job, and that you’re in a practitioner based field - nursing or teacher training for example.

Senior post 92. No research.

CreativeGreen · 25/09/2026 13:57

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 10:37

Senior post 92. No research.

You realise “no research” makes a colossal difference, right?

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 13:58

CreativeGreen · 25/09/2026 13:57

You realise “no research” makes a colossal difference, right?

Still workloaded according to contract.

Pigtailsandall · 25/09/2026 14:19

I'm an academic. I'm constantly expected to work unpaid overtime or do roles that carry no funding. Teaching takes up a LOT of time, from offering pastoral care to students to checking their essays for AI slop. People expect you to answer emails on holiday, at 10pm, on Sundays. There're huge redundancies and lots of uncertainty in the sector. My salary is in the region of 60k and I spent years studying for this job.

It's really not a walk in the park or an easy ride. And if the student numbers fall short, your department faces huge cuts. Every year is stressful. My hours have been cut this year too.

CreativeGreen · 25/09/2026 14:43

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 13:58

Still workloaded according to contract.

Sure, but this fundamentally changes the nature and demands of the role.

Askingforafriendtoday · 25/09/2026 14:54

CreativeGreen · 25/09/2026 14:43

Sure, but this fundamentally changes the nature and demands of the role.

No research is a massive reduction on workload and frustration

Mumteedum · 25/09/2026 15:20

Where I work there are loads of staff stacked high with teaching on teaching only contracts. Staff on standard research contracts are not managed robustly with the expectation of research. There are tons of them with precisely zero outputs and doing nothing but getting less workload for teaching and taking research leave as holiday! It's quite unbelievable really.

The teaching only staff feel a bit aggrieved.

There was a good times HE article about the two types of contract this week actually.

Sparklybat · 25/09/2026 18:42

monkeysox · 25/09/2026 13:58

Still workloaded according to contract.

No research makes a huge difference.

Ive taught in FE and primary (no younger teens) and absolutely teaching adults is better.

However teaching is a small part of most academics workloads so to compare a teaching focussed contract to what others are doing is madness.

Most of my time is spent on PhD research, supporting research officers and managing research staff - all of which I have to find funding for or attract. We essentially bring in our own salaries whilst being employed and not profiting ourselves but facing daily pressure and criticism of our ideas and efforts. I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve spent weeks writing grants for one reviewer to misinterpret it (deliberately sometimes) and for us not to get it which puts our jobs at risk.

Sure - many jobs also have similar pressures but they complain it’s hard too. In fact I’ve realised most people are stressed by work, just in different ways which is either reassuring or depressing or both.

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