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FluentOP · 20/09/2026 00:33

I believe that Prince Charles said that. Apparently, Charles Spencer told other people (probably his two sisters and mother) after the phone conversation so if his two sisters corroborated it that would add weight to it. I do think that people would be more forgiving of Charles Spencer if he were to say that all or most of the profits of the book were being donated to charity.

likelysuspect · 19/09/2026 23:39

emuloc · 19/09/2026 19:16

Diana was most likely very vulnerable, and suffering from her troubles mentally, when she spoke out. Can anyone say the same for her Brother?

Out of interest, why would people not describe CS as fragile and vulnerable?

People use slurs against him for much the same behaviours as Diana exhibited, mentally unstable, poor history of relationships, unfaithfullness, oversharing. Both given a life they may not have chosen in any other context.

likelysuspect · 19/09/2026 23:33

BitOutOfPractice · 19/09/2026 17:20

Yeah yeah because as a senior royal he’s never been trained to put on a game face 🙄

Well he isnt very good at a game face most of the time is he. He takes after his dad who never bothered invoking great PR.

hotmumshit · 19/09/2026 22:58

You are not being unreasonable. I believe him too

That video is compelling isn't it

Shloopie · 19/09/2026 22:54

BakeOut · 19/09/2026 22:46

Christ, I suddenly feel really bloody sad for William.
He had an emotionally unstable mother. I know she loved him, but she was not a stable mother. He's got one fucking shit of a brother. A sister in law whom he hates. He must find his father really very difficult, I think most of us can see that Charles would make a difficult father. He would have phenomenally conflicted feelings towards Camilla and I've always wondered how he has ever even managed to stand in the same room as her. His paternal uncle is a paedophile who has committed sex crimes. And now his maternal uncle has written a book that will surely deeply upset him.
I don't care that he has immense material wealth. He is a human being who never asked to be born in to the royal family. And no amount of wealth can buy peace in your heart.

And I'm sure ole William has some less than wonderful aspects to his personality too.

Shloopie · 19/09/2026 22:52

We could use Harry Hill's sage advice to the rival factions at this time.

AIBU to believe Charles Spencer after watching this BBC clip?
ItsAlwaysTwins · 19/09/2026 22:51

Bollihobs · 19/09/2026 21:46

Yes fully verified. It came out during the 2002 trial of Paul Burrell.

In a letter to her CS criticised Diana as a "fickle friend" and referenced her struggles with bulimia, writing that "manipulation and deceit are parts of the illness". What a charmer. And apparently they never spoke again - she obvs died the following year.

I know letters between Diana and Charles Spencer came out around the Paul Burrell trial, but the well-documented letter that made the tabloids was from Charles Spencer to Diana? If the quote you attribute to Diana exists, it should be possible to identify it.

DBSFstupid · 19/09/2026 22:49

dustabsorber · 19/09/2026 10:00

orf with his head

😂

BakeOut · 19/09/2026 22:46

Christ, I suddenly feel really bloody sad for William.
He had an emotionally unstable mother. I know she loved him, but she was not a stable mother. He's got one fucking shit of a brother. A sister in law whom he hates. He must find his father really very difficult, I think most of us can see that Charles would make a difficult father. He would have phenomenally conflicted feelings towards Camilla and I've always wondered how he has ever even managed to stand in the same room as her. His paternal uncle is a paedophile who has committed sex crimes. And now his maternal uncle has written a book that will surely deeply upset him.
I don't care that he has immense material wealth. He is a human being who never asked to be born in to the royal family. And no amount of wealth can buy peace in your heart.

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WellThatsNotAGrowthMindset · 19/09/2026 22:45

I believe him.

MumsTheWordYouKnow · 19/09/2026 22:34

emuloc · 19/09/2026 09:44

Even if it is true that KC said that, Charles Spencer should have done the decent thing, and kept his counsel. It is really not on, what he has done here. Has he forgotten he has nephews?

Exactly, it’s just despicable after what they’ve gone through in recent years too. Serious health concerns and H&M tormenting them all. Also H&M had been talking to Spencer, possibly colluding on a smear campaign.

Kipperandarthur · 19/09/2026 22:20

He’s an odious man who has profited from his late sister for years and this is his latest.

Nearly 30 years after her death and he’s now declared all this for the first time. Just why? Well his divorces are expensive I suppose and he’s certainly had plenty of them.

He treats women badly, his late sister included.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 19/09/2026 22:12

Bollihobs · 19/09/2026 21:08

i don't believe him - it isn't credible that CW would say anything so inflammatory out loud and it doesn't fit with his demeanour at the time of D's death.

He's got a book to sell - who's going to read it unless it's got some salacious gossip in it? Don't have any? Just make something up, the wilder the better.

Diana was no fan either. A1996 letter from her describes CS as 'A cold, uncaring and abusive husband and a terrible brother.'

This.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 19/09/2026 22:11

Earl Spencer couldn't lie straight in bed.

Funny that he didn't mention it 30 years ago when it would have been gold dust for the press.

Just creating a hoo haa now to sell a book. He would sell his granny if it bought him a new wing in his mansion.

Jiski · 19/09/2026 22:08

I believe it 💯

BakeOut · 19/09/2026 22:08

Futurehappiness · 19/09/2026 15:07

100%. I absolutely believe that this happened as Charles Spencer described. I was really unimpressed by the Palace statement with its insinuation that CS's grief must have caused him to misremember - without stating outright that he was wrong. If what CS said was false why not just say that?

They must be really upset that the decades of gaslighting and undermining Diana and boosting their own popularity has been set back by CS accusations. The cold fury shows in this statement.

But the default RF position is to protect its principals, either by covering up the truth or by outright lying. When the accusations against Andrew first came to light, the palace statement was that these were 'false and without foundation'. So they - the spokespersons of our Head of State - were happy to smear a sex trafficking victim as a liar in order to protect Andrew (and are protecting him to this day).

Very, very well said.
All of it.

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Bollihobs · 19/09/2026 21:46

ItsAlwaysTwins · 19/09/2026 21:16

Is that fact or fiction? I’m not sure it’s ever been verified.

Yes fully verified. It came out during the 2002 trial of Paul Burrell.

In a letter to her CS criticised Diana as a "fickle friend" and referenced her struggles with bulimia, writing that "manipulation and deceit are parts of the illness". What a charmer. And apparently they never spoke again - she obvs died the following year.

ItsAlwaysTwins · 19/09/2026 21:16

Bollihobs · 19/09/2026 21:08

i don't believe him - it isn't credible that CW would say anything so inflammatory out loud and it doesn't fit with his demeanour at the time of D's death.

He's got a book to sell - who's going to read it unless it's got some salacious gossip in it? Don't have any? Just make something up, the wilder the better.

Diana was no fan either. A1996 letter from her describes CS as 'A cold, uncaring and abusive husband and a terrible brother.'

Is that fact or fiction? I’m not sure it’s ever been verified.

NotAnotherScarf · 19/09/2026 21:09

sesquipedalian · 19/09/2026 09:35

IF this is true, why has it only come out now? If the Earl of Spencer had said something at the time, the papers would have been all over it, and it would have been very damaging to the royal family, who were at a low ebb at the time. I’m sorry, but I think this is a convenient and sensationalist remembering to sell a few books. Let’s not forget, this is a man who wasn’t even invited to his own daughters’ weddings.

In the words of Abba Money, money money...he's probably skint.

Oh and his favourite nephew has come back to the UK and is pratting about again

Bollihobs · 19/09/2026 21:08

i don't believe him - it isn't credible that CW would say anything so inflammatory out loud and it doesn't fit with his demeanour at the time of D's death.

He's got a book to sell - who's going to read it unless it's got some salacious gossip in it? Don't have any? Just make something up, the wilder the better.

Diana was no fan either. A1996 letter from her describes CS as 'A cold, uncaring and abusive husband and a terrible brother.'

ShamedBySiri · 19/09/2026 20:53

Charles Spencer may come to regret doing this - his shady past is being exposed all over X along with his hypocrisy.

"Charles Spencer's profiting of Princess Diana's memory and death needs to be exposed: 🛑 Made £25M touring her bridal gown and personal items across the US 🛑 Made £15 million more displaying them at Althorp for 15 years -to 2013 🛑 That grift only stopped in 2013 when Prince William turned 30 and took legal control of his mother's personal possessions and moved them back to Kensington Palace. 🛑 Made £11 million on Althorp tickets sales since 2014. 🛑 Allegedly being paid millions for a Netflix doc exploiting Diana and doing what he complained the media has done. Now Earl Spencer is profiting off his sister yet again with a £10M propaganda book. He has profited over £61+ million of his sister Diana's memorey and death."

Here's a tally of all the money he has made from Diana, accompanied by a clip of him discussing how he would never profit from his sister's death.

https://x.com/audrey_fforbes/status/2101217586667016671?s=20

Audrey fforbes-Hamilton (@audrey_fforbes) on X

I urge everyone to listen VERY closely to the words of Charles Spencer in 1998 and compare them to what he is doing today in 2026.

https://x.com/audrey_fforbes/status/2101217586667016671?s=20

Armorlux · 19/09/2026 20:29

Charles Spencer is the best poster boy for the abolition of hereditary titles / stately piles et al that I can think of.

He's a deeply disturbed individual who seems to have a tenuous grasp of reality. His actual claim to any fame is solely because of Diana but,apparently, they were estranged when she died. No one would look twice at him in any other situation. Nor publish or read his books.

He's media trained,so hardly likely to crumble in front of Laura Kuennsberg.
Believe what you like,OP.

MorganKitten · 19/09/2026 20:13

Spencer wasn’t even talking to Diana in the lead up to her death, they fell out during her divorce and has been vile to all his ex wives. Pot. Kettle. Black.

RhannionKPSS · 19/09/2026 20:12

No, because he is a shit

ItsAlwaysTwins · 19/09/2026 20:07

MyNamedoesntWork · 19/09/2026 19:48

This is a man on his fourth marriage with infidelity alleged in his three divorces.
Now, how truthful do we think he is, given his history?

I’m inclined to believe him more than Charles Windsor.