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AIBU To pin child’s wrists to their side

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Calmondeck · 18/09/2026 19:59

Friday night picnic in the park with another family. Neighbours from down the street, our kids play together multiple times a week. Often I am the parent supervising, and am usually playful and interacting with the kids, tonight I was happy to have adult company and a chat. The neighbour’s eldest child (aged 5) started picking clumps of grass and throwing them on my head while I was sitting eating. I said no. He continued to pick grass and throw it on my head, at my face, down my shirt, demanding that I come play with him. The mum, in a sing song voice said “oh I don’t think CalmOnDeck is liking that”, he ignored her, continued despite my protests. My DH snapped, “stop, child’s name”. When the child approached me again I held his wrists to prevent him from throwing more grass, and said firmly “I am not playing this game”. His mum then reacted saying “darling, come sit down”.
I feel a bit unsettled because it didn’t feel comfortable telling off someone else’s child, and I wondered whether it was unacceptable to hold his wrists. But I was also completely baffled by his parent’s lack of early intervention. When we got home, my DH thought it was outrageous the child’s parents were so passive, despite me clearly saying no and objecting that food was getting covered in grass.
Was IBU for holding his wrists? Should I have asked his parents to react? Keen to know how others would have handled this

OP posts:
Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 18:09

Marieb19 · 20/09/2026 17:56

Can you show us the law which states holding a child's wrists to stop them throwing things at other people is classed as physical restraint?

As I've already stated im not knowledgeable about law. But I'm am as capable of googling as I'm sure you are. So I've just done that.
I don't where OP lives but I've assumed England. Therefore this situation would apparently come under English Common Law and Section 3 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 which permits anyone to use such force as is reasonable in the circumstances to prevent a crime, protect someone else from attack, or defend themselves.

Marieb19 · 20/09/2026 17:56

Releasemeplease · 18/09/2026 20:41

Because there are laws about using physical restraint and as i understand it physical restaint is only supposed to be used in emergency or extreme circumstances.

Can you show us the law which states holding a child's wrists to stop them throwing things at other people is classed as physical restraint?

bettyrubble99 · 20/09/2026 17:45

Is his mum a member of the "gentle hands" brigade?

Clothesmountain · 20/09/2026 17:34

Good on you. I would not have been so nice, i would have said no the first time followed by i have already said no, now do not do that again in a strict voice with a hard stare attached. Third time yes i would have held his wrist then given his mother a bloody mouthful.

MonteStory · 20/09/2026 17:33

I agree you were restrained. I would have put my hand out to prevent him from coming close to me the second time it happened, not the fourth or fifth. No voice raising, no ‘punishing’ someone else’s child, just holding a boundary - “I do not want grass on me especially when I’m trying to eat. Stop doing that”

If the only way to stop him (putting a hand out wouldn’t stop him throwing, just stop him from getting closer) was to hold him then you did nothing wrong.

I did almost exactly the same thing at hotel in Lanzarote. 3,4 year old boy was tipping buckets of water over adults by the toddler pool. No parents or supervising adult in sight which is questionable by a pool and sad for the poor kid looking for someone to engage with. But I dont want feeezing water thrown on me.

He approached me, bucket raised, I said firmly ‘no thank you’ (yes he spoke English). He kept getting closer so I said it again and when he got right next to me and tipped the bucket I simply put my hand out to redirect the bucket away from me and the water poured on the floor. The boy understood immediately and went off to do it to someone else. The other adults around the pool seemed astonished that telling a child “no thank you” was even an option and many followed suit, calmly holding a boundary with an unsupervised child.

sunshine314 · 20/09/2026 17:27

I have no problem shouting at/ disciplining other people's kids. I will hope another adult will stop my child from doing something stupid/anti social.

Society will sink if we continue to let kids go out of hand.

Newyearawaits · 20/09/2026 17:25

SockPlant · 20/09/2026 16:53

are you the mum? do you let your children behave like this?

????
Touching /laying hands on other people's children is subject to misunderstanding /misrepresentation.
Irrespective of the circumstances.

Bigreddog25 · 20/09/2026 17:23

I dont think you should do that, but you had no other choice at this point. It should never have got to needing to do that. So it's not your fault at all.

Isometimeswonder · 20/09/2026 17:18

A kid about that age once threw a stone at me, for no reason, I was just walking by.
The parent actually laughed when I called out to them to watch their child's behaviour.

Surprisinglynice · 20/09/2026 17:16

Not sure why the Op is posting

the mum didn’t say anything
and no one else did
and the Op doesn’t mention the atmosphere changing or anything
so 🤷‍♀️ looks like no in RL gave a hoot so why the thread?

shellx6 · 20/09/2026 17:14

TBH she's not a friend if she allowed her child to treat you like that, and to dismiss his behaviour with you are not liking that, I would keep my distance

LBFseBrom · 20/09/2026 17:13

AppropriateAdult · 18/09/2026 20:01

I think it’s fine. You didn’t hurt him, and his mum was being ridiculous.

I agree.

Peonies12 · 20/09/2026 17:02

Sorry but I think entirely inappropriate to restrain someone else’s child unless they were going to hurt themselves or someone else. You should have just moved away or gone home.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 20/09/2026 16:54

seahorsessky · 18/09/2026 20:54

You shouldn't have had to. Under 10, throwing stuff at someone presumably isn't classed as assault, but he should be controlled so that doesn't happen-kids have caused serious injury by throwing stuff at people. Grass this time, next time what? Stones? Bottles? His mum (and dad if he's on the scene) should have taught him this long before 5, and if there's some reason he can't be expected to behave, they should be supervising and intervening immediately.
I feel sorry for his classmates and teachers.

No a five year old child can't assault anyone. However, an adult can, and what @Calmondeck did does actually constitute assault. I know it sounds ridiculous, but it might legally be assault and battery. As it used to be regarded as assault if someone waved a fist at someone, and if they actually touched them in anger, or in order to upset or annoy them, it was then considered assault and battery! I don't know if any laws have been changed since then.

But that was many years ago, and might have excluded adults doing so to children. Which imo is worse, because little children are the most vulnerable members of our society. However, I don't for one second believe that what the OP was done in an abusive way, I just think she was just exasperated at the child not being made to stop by it's mum. I would not touch anyone elses child to restrain them, unless it really was an emergency situation, eg. The child was about to run out on to a busy road.

SockPlant · 20/09/2026 16:53

Newyearawaits · 20/09/2026 16:48

Difficulty is that child's perception /description of events could get OP into a lot of trouble

are you the mum? do you let your children behave like this?

SockPlant · 20/09/2026 16:52

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 20/09/2026 12:45

God I’m over “gentle “ / passive parenting.

Had this the other day at a restaurant- not even a known kid he had the salt shaker and was trying to put salt all over my daughter her food - I was batting the salt shaker away while parents watched !!! I wish I had said “hello - do you want to parent!!!”

but I was gobsmacked the situation was happening

Next time

  1. tell the mum can you get him to stop!!
  2. If she/ he doesn’t you pack up go home - her lack of boundaries shouldn’t mean you get grass/ dirt thrown at you!

Also I’d be distancing myself from this friend her perish cherub is only going to get worse!

meh. I would not be packing up to go home. I am not conflict avoidant tho, i would have told her to take her son away until he can behave in society.

Newyearawaits · 20/09/2026 16:48

NancyThompson · 19/09/2026 08:12

Yes but it's not like she battered him. She just painlessly physically stopped him. The whole thing is a non-event from a legal perspective.

Difficulty is that child's perception /description of events could get OP into a lot of trouble

localnotail · 20/09/2026 16:47

Why couldn't you shouted to his parents "please can you come and get your child he is ruining my food and clothes?" Or maybe got up, took him by the hand and led to his mum. And explain to her that you are eating and he is covering your food in dirt.

Lifeomars · 20/09/2026 16:34

I'd be reluctant to actually lay hands on someone else's child in case the parent got angry but I totally get where the OP is coming from. Poor kid isn't being helped to learn about acceptable behaviour with a mother like that, it does them no favours. A while back I was in our local cafe and two little ones, around 4/5 were running amok while their mums drank coffee, they were banging into tables, risking hurting themselves and upending hot drinks, racing the length of the cafe, shrieking and yelling and a few people kindly and calmly tried to get then to calm down and got a mouthful from the mums as a response. The most ironic thing was that the cafe has a play table with toys and colouring stuff so they could have diverted their kids with this. It was apparently easier to let other people stop them hurting themselves rather than parent them

Surprisinglynice · 20/09/2026 16:33

How did others in the group respond? Did you sense some were thinking WTF? Is that why you’re asking us?

TalkToTheHand123 · 20/09/2026 16:26

If you shoved his face into the grass, I think that would be ok and proportionate self defense.

CorkedWellbeing · 20/09/2026 16:26

I think you're fine. My daughter is nearly 4 and boisterous by nature so I am all over it when it comes to making sure that she knows games have to be fun for everyone and that someone asking her to stop is not a suggestion she can take or leave.
In this situation the parents should have stepped in as soon as you made it clear you weren't playing. That situation was not yours to manage and you shouldn't have been put in the position of finally having to show enough is enough .

Katigee410 · 20/09/2026 16:18

Totally on your side. Hate it when parents don't do their ' job ' so it fell to you to do something. You didn't hurt the child and boundaries obviously weren't set

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 14:42

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 14:21

Yes, really.

Touching anyone can be assault.

You can't assault children you are related to and you can't assault children you are unrelated to.

There is no law about "touching children unrelated to you."

Sorry you have lost me.
Seems like you are trying to start an argument with me for no reason and I really can't be bothered.

CleverlyBeery · 20/09/2026 14:23

wiredandtired · 20/09/2026 12:38

Yes. There are two points to address here, though -

  1. The child needs boundaries, clearly.

  2. Whether OP should have taken it upon herself to physically restrain the child.

I would have just said more firmly to the parent "Please can you stop him" rather than restraining him myself, in the first instance.

If the parent still did nothing and he carried on, then maybe, but really I probably would have just got up and moved away.

Yes, my post was purely about the most recent post from the OP - the mum saying parenting was exhausting and that she avoids conflict.

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