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AIBU To pin child’s wrists to their side

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Calmondeck · 18/09/2026 19:59

Friday night picnic in the park with another family. Neighbours from down the street, our kids play together multiple times a week. Often I am the parent supervising, and am usually playful and interacting with the kids, tonight I was happy to have adult company and a chat. The neighbour’s eldest child (aged 5) started picking clumps of grass and throwing them on my head while I was sitting eating. I said no. He continued to pick grass and throw it on my head, at my face, down my shirt, demanding that I come play with him. The mum, in a sing song voice said “oh I don’t think CalmOnDeck is liking that”, he ignored her, continued despite my protests. My DH snapped, “stop, child’s name”. When the child approached me again I held his wrists to prevent him from throwing more grass, and said firmly “I am not playing this game”. His mum then reacted saying “darling, come sit down”.
I feel a bit unsettled because it didn’t feel comfortable telling off someone else’s child, and I wondered whether it was unacceptable to hold his wrists. But I was also completely baffled by his parent’s lack of early intervention. When we got home, my DH thought it was outrageous the child’s parents were so passive, despite me clearly saying no and objecting that food was getting covered in grass.
Was IBU for holding his wrists? Should I have asked his parents to react? Keen to know how others would have handled this

OP posts:
NancyThompson · 20/09/2026 21:35

Peonies12 · 20/09/2026 21:19

Just moved away like any sensible person would do. I’d be borderline calling the police if someone restrained my child.

Move away from the picnic? Just scurry off home because a child is misbehaving, or get covered in crap?
No stopping them is entirely reasonable. Phoning the police would be ludicrous.

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 21:33

Peonies12 · 20/09/2026 21:19

Just moved away like any sensible person would do. I’d be borderline calling the police if someone restrained my child.

I think that is ridiculous. She would have to get up, move her food (they were having a picnic, weren't they) her plate and glass, collect her own child and flee from a toddler. Children aren't supposed to rule the world, they need to be taught how to socialise, how to behave, not be indulged at everyone else's expense.

The child is throwing soil around at peoples heads. What if it has dog poo in it and it gets in someone's eyes and they catch toxocariasis or one of the other dozens of bacteria and parasites that abound in dog mess? Gentle restraint is a very good option

Peonies12 · 20/09/2026 21:19

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 21:05

What do you think the OP should have done, faced with a child throwing soil over her repeatedly and a parent who was not parenting their child? Sit there and take it? Allow herself to be driven from the park by a toddler? Call the police?

Just moved away like any sensible person would do. I’d be borderline calling the police if someone restrained my child.

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 21:05

Mrsmch123 · 20/09/2026 20:08

I would have stepped in much quicker but if anyone put there hands on my child I would have gone mental.

What do you think the OP should have done, faced with a child throwing soil over her repeatedly and a parent who was not parenting their child? Sit there and take it? Allow herself to be driven from the park by a toddler? Call the police?

AmnesiacsDream · 20/09/2026 20:46

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 18:22

Sorry.

Thought we were conversing quite normally in plain English.

There is no specific qualification in law about children you are not related to.

You are not allowed to assault your own children or anyone else's.

The OP hasn't assaulted anyone.

In England there is still a qualification in law that allows reasonable chastisement as a defense against assault that applies only to parents or those in loco parentis. It doesn’t apply here but it’s understandable that someone might think other aspects of physical force might be different for parents too.

Clothesmountain · 20/09/2026 20:29

thegrumblingkitten · 20/09/2026 18:56

Children that are parented like this are a nightmare at school...

They will be a bloody nightmare for the rest of their lives.

Bitsostuff · 20/09/2026 20:26

Mrsmch123 · 20/09/2026 20:08

I would have stepped in much quicker but if anyone put there hands on my child I would have gone mental.

If you allowed your child to behave in this way to me I wouldn't care how "mental" you went. I mean, I really wouldn't give a shiny shit.

SweatySpider321 · 20/09/2026 20:14

Mrsmch123 · 20/09/2026 20:08

I would have stepped in much quicker but if anyone put there hands on my child I would have gone mental.

Hopefully you parent in a more active way and don’t let your child run wild though….

johnd2 · 20/09/2026 20:09

Something very similar happened in the library near me (although it was a dad that lifted the child down from the bench rather than a mum, and the child did cry) and you wouldn't believe the hooha, an unrelated parent who saw it was freaking out but the actual mum was completely oblivious. The staff were talking statements and getting managers through.
My comment was that he was very foolish to touch someone else's child full still but I don't think it was worth the big furore.
In your case with the parent there and known to you, you're on safer ground, but still, don't do it.

Mrsmch123 · 20/09/2026 20:08

I would have stepped in much quicker but if anyone put there hands on my child I would have gone mental.

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 20:00

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 19:33

"as someone who is not totally familiar with what the law actually is on restraining children, or even touching children that are unrelated to me"

This is the basis on which you're giving your very helpful 'technical' advice. Well may you laugh...

I have no idea why you and some other posters are ganging up to tear my opinion to pieces. Absolutely weird. I had no idea that using the word technically would spark such outrage ! Next time someone starts one of those threads where people say what words or expressions most annoy them on MN you will need to vent some spleen on pp who use the word " technically"!

Btw I didn't give any one "technical advice". I used the word technically as a figure of speech.

highlandcoo · 20/09/2026 19:35

Some people are suggesting that, rather than dealing with the situation as she did, OP should have left the picnic if the mother wasn't willing to control her child. What sort of a message would that give him? That he has power to drive an adult away by his behaviour? How ridiculous.

Those people wouldn't have been impressed by my husband. A friend came for lunch at our holiday home with his eight year old grandson. My husband had played football with him earlier and he'd had lots of attention. We sat down to eat and he started kicking my husband's chair. He was asked and then told firmly to stop. He didn't and started kicking my husband's leg. My husband said "You do that one more time and I will throw you in the pool".. he kicked him on the leg again. He was thrown in the pool. He stopped kicking after that.

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 19:33

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 19:23

I'm amazed that you equate someone using the word " technically" to them trying to pass themselves off as a police officer or lawyer or Social worker! I think thats actually really amusing!

I do have some idea of whatiI'm talking about. I'm sure most rational people know that individuals are not supposed to go around manhandling or touching others, especially children. And that people are protected in law from others doing this to them. And there has been plenty of coverage of the unlawful use of restraint , generally in care institutions.

Do you really think it is ok to go around restraining other people's children?

Btw I'm having difficulty typing this because I'm laughing so much at being accused of impersonating a police officer.

"as someone who is not totally familiar with what the law actually is on restraining children, or even touching children that are unrelated to me"

This is the basis on which you're giving your very helpful 'technical' advice. Well may you laugh...

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 19:23

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 19:04

You say 'technically' as if you have some expertise in this area of law. As if you were a police officer, or a lawyer or a social worker.

And then it turns out you have no idea what you're talking about; you're just a random person on the Internet with an opinion. Don't try and give authority to that opinion by wording it as if you have expert knowledge

I'm amazed that you equate someone using the word " technically" to them trying to pass themselves off as a police officer or lawyer or Social worker! I think thats actually really amusing!

I do have some idea of whatiI'm talking about. I'm sure most rational people know that individuals are not supposed to go around manhandling or touching others, especially children. And that people are protected in law from others doing this to them. And there has been plenty of coverage of the unlawful use of restraint , generally in care institutions.

Do you really think it is ok to go around restraining other people's children?

Btw I'm having difficulty typing this because I'm laughing so much at being accused of impersonating a police officer.

SweatySpider321 · 20/09/2026 19:21

She needs to actually parent her child instead of being so wet. YANBU

sweetpickle2 · 20/09/2026 19:12

I’d personally never touch someone else’s child unless they were in danger or it was something like a consenting hug.

I don’t think you were wrong to try and put a stop to it though, his mum sounds unbearable. I’d have directly said to her “can you stop him throwing grass on me please it’s very annoying.”

Emptyandsad · 20/09/2026 19:04

Releasemeplease · 18/09/2026 22:22

Well as someone who is not totally familiar with what the law actually is on restraining children, or even touching children that are unrelated to me I would personally be very wary of doing this.
I don't know why my comnent is controversial. I'm not criticising OP for what she did. I think she had good cause. But I thought the safest and general rule is not to touch other people's children because it is very easy for an adult to be viewed as being in the wrong in situations like this.

You say 'technically' as if you have some expertise in this area of law. As if you were a police officer, or a lawyer or a social worker.

And then it turns out you have no idea what you're talking about; you're just a random person on the Internet with an opinion. Don't try and give authority to that opinion by wording it as if you have expert knowledge

thegrumblingkitten · 20/09/2026 18:56

Children that are parented like this are a nightmare at school...

allthingsinmoderation · 20/09/2026 18:36

i agree with your husband that the parents passiveness in this situation was wrong.
But i dont think it right that you physically put your hand on a child that wasnt yours to restraint them.
You should have said to the parents please deal with your childs behaviour here or ill have to leave.

Justbrieme · 20/09/2026 18:33

The other parents are the problem not you. I would not keep company with them.

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 18:31

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 18:22

Sorry.

Thought we were conversing quite normally in plain English.

There is no specific qualification in law about children you are not related to.

You are not allowed to assault your own children or anyone else's.

The OP hasn't assaulted anyone.

I've not accused OP of assaulting anybody!

I actually said I understood why she did what she did, although I think personally she should have been complaining to the child's mother about the unacceptable behaviour and getting HER to stop it.

I don't understand why you are nit picking and trying to start an argument. You are perfectly entitled to have a different view point, just as I am entitled to mine.

PistachioTiramisu · 20/09/2026 18:29

I know what I would have liked to do to the little s-d!

RikthePoet · 20/09/2026 18:22

Releasemeplease · 20/09/2026 14:42

Sorry you have lost me.
Seems like you are trying to start an argument with me for no reason and I really can't be bothered.

Sorry.

Thought we were conversing quite normally in plain English.

There is no specific qualification in law about children you are not related to.

You are not allowed to assault your own children or anyone else's.

The OP hasn't assaulted anyone.

HollyhocksandPeons · 20/09/2026 18:20

Since they banned smacking, I would have done exactly the same as the child - I would have picked up all the clumps and stuffed it down their shirt. Only more clumps, till he would not find it funny anymore. Like loads of clumps. Till he shouted 'muuuuum'. I then would have said - but I thought we were playing? No? Then I would have cut ties with this woman.

This is what happens in a world without hierarchy - it should not have occurred to the little miscreant to behave like that.

NancyThompson · 20/09/2026 18:14

Newyearawaits · 20/09/2026 16:48

Difficulty is that child's perception /description of events could get OP into a lot of trouble

The parent was right there.

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