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AIBU to be worried about rising fuel and energy costs this winter?

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HonorBound · 18/09/2026 19:24

on Monday went past Sainsbury and fuel was £1.61, went past Tesco tonight and its £1.70 - I'm guessing they've all put their prices up and there are 3 supermarkets within 1.5 miles

I'm leaving the car at home as much as possible, and certainly used less fuel than I normally would have by half way through the month

gas is going up on 1 October along with electric

things are going to be tight this winter

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HoppityBun · 19/09/2026 10:01

bingobangs · 19/09/2026 08:18

No investment for years & a lot of the electorate aren’t interested in voting for things that would improve the lives of the young.

Fewer and fewer people use buses. It’s a vicious circle. I know that the local bus company is run on very tight margins and the buses they use are not top of the range and I never bought brand-new.

I would say that the electorate is not interested in subsidising a transport system that mostly is being irrelevant. I wish it were different. There seems to be no comprehension that a better system would have to be paid for. Currently, it only viable if it runs on subsidies, as it is..

theyneverchangedothey · 19/09/2026 09:48

HonorBound · 19/09/2026 09:43

I would like to see UC for working people prevented, we can't keep blaming the government for the greed of large companies.

Fuel was £1.65 last week and 2 days later the file has increased to £1.71 - the same fuel on the forecourt, a delivery hasn't come in yet the same fuel is increased in price. Whilst the government tax the fuel both duty and VAT, it hasn't increased this duty for 14 years. It has decreased the duty for a period of time.

No forecourt protests about price increases though

Who is blaming the government? And as I’ve said, the governments OWN STATISTICS do not reflect that is in an issue with “greed of large companies”
If more than 50% of UC have no requirements to work, shouldn’t we be looking at why?

HonorBound · 19/09/2026 09:43

theyneverchangedothey · 19/09/2026 08:13

Only around one third of UC are in any kind of work. Interestingly, the government don’t monitor how many hours, so how many are in full time work is unknown. But it won’t be all of them, would you agree?
The highest proportion of UC (50% and rising) is paid to the “no working requirements” group.
If employees are not being properly paid, I agree, that needs addressing, but this narrative that the majority of UC is paid to the full time “working poor” is not supported by the governments own statistics.

I would like to see UC for working people prevented, we can't keep blaming the government for the greed of large companies.

Fuel was £1.65 last week and 2 days later the file has increased to £1.71 - the same fuel on the forecourt, a delivery hasn't come in yet the same fuel is increased in price. Whilst the government tax the fuel both duty and VAT, it hasn't increased this duty for 14 years. It has decreased the duty for a period of time.

No forecourt protests about price increases though

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Londonnight · 19/09/2026 08:30

I'm really worried. I have all electric heating with old storage heaters.

Luckily I am retired so no longer have to drive to work, but I do have to drive very regularly to my very elderly parents with a 300 mile round trip. I have no choice with this, but the cost of petrol it's becoming really worrying as to how long I can actually afford to do this.
I use the bus if I go anywhere else.

user1476613140 · 19/09/2026 08:30

In Scotland the Young Scot card allows young people free bus travel up to the age of 21 or 22. Sorry I can't remember. But it makes a huge difference to their independence as they reach high school age.

One of my DC has a C+1 as he's classed as disabled so I get on the bus for free as his companion.

Depending on which part of Scotland you live, some get free access to trams too.

More needs to be done in rUK to follow suit and make it accessible for all.

bingobangs · 19/09/2026 08:18

SilverGlitterBaubles · 19/09/2026 08:01

I still fail to understand how we have such a poor and expensive public transport system. I can’t understand that a train ticket costs more than a flight or that young people can’t use railcards for season tickets. Make it cost effective and no brainer for people to use trains instead of cars, better for the environment too.

No investment for years & a lot of the electorate aren’t interested in voting for things that would improve the lives of the young.

theyneverchangedothey · 19/09/2026 08:13

HonorBound · 19/09/2026 07:42

wages are to low and if we were angry rather than passive, we’d be protesting about the low wages.

when you e got the likes of Starbucks putting staff on salary instead of hourly paid, so they don’t get paid for overtime

tesco, staff 50p over nmw (they employed 330,000 total staff) and £937 million paid to shareholders, yet a large proportion of the staff claim UC. So we pay tax which indirectly goes to a large company to top up their wages. Wages need to be raised to lower the tax burden

when are we going to be frustrated enough to protest about the greed of keeping workers on handouts

Only around one third of UC are in any kind of work. Interestingly, the government don’t monitor how many hours, so how many are in full time work is unknown. But it won’t be all of them, would you agree?
The highest proportion of UC (50% and rising) is paid to the “no working requirements” group.
If employees are not being properly paid, I agree, that needs addressing, but this narrative that the majority of UC is paid to the full time “working poor” is not supported by the governments own statistics.

DiscombobulatedHedgehog · 19/09/2026 08:06

Honestly, I just want to cry. Petrol is 179 here and I live 20 miles away from nearest small town, and 10 miles away from the children’s school. On an average day I need to travel 80 miles just for school and work. Buses are very limited and don’t match up time-wise at all.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 19/09/2026 08:01

I still fail to understand how we have such a poor and expensive public transport system. I can’t understand that a train ticket costs more than a flight or that young people can’t use railcards for season tickets. Make it cost effective and no brainer for people to use trains instead of cars, better for the environment too.

PinkCatCushion · 19/09/2026 08:01

GCAcademic · 19/09/2026 07:57

We’ve just filled the oil tank at double the cost of the last fill. I’m thankful that menopause has made me run hot and no longer feel the cold.

If you’re on oil the BUS is very generous.
www.gov.uk/apply-boiler-upgrade-scheme/what-you-can-get

PinkCatCushion · 19/09/2026 07:59

scalt · 19/09/2026 07:30

As I said on the other thread, it’s not “worried” that we should be. We need to be ANGRY. The millionaire politicians need to notice that we are being bitten on all sides by the ever-increasing costs (and I say that one reason for some of them was month after month of LOCKDOWN, something being quietly forgotten). If the politicians are quietly doing nothing to try to price people off the road, like Sir Tony fucking Bliar did, then they should be making other things trains more affordable. (And don’t say “get an EV, mine costs nothing to run” the set up costs and repairs are very, very high.)

Sooner or later, the people will rise up in anger, especially those who need to drive to earn their living. At the moment, they’re just tutting and sighing about high prices, and getting angry about immigration instead, but the public anger might happen eventually, when their earnings are wiped out by the cost of getting to work. The government isn’t even bothering with the Boris Johnson approach of waffling complete nonsense while doing precisely nothing.

To be fair, the current government subsidies for bus travel are very generous. It’s really helped us with the cost of our son getting to college.
We’ve switched to electric cars which also helps (no available bus routes to get to work).

GCAcademic · 19/09/2026 07:57

We’ve just filled the oil tank at double the cost of the last fill. I’m thankful that menopause has made me run hot and no longer feel the cold.

PinkCatCushion · 19/09/2026 07:56

President Fart is the root cause of it. He is so stupid; why don’t his advisors keep him busy building big structures and just make all the policies themselves?
On the positive side, currently government subsidies for air source heat pumps are very generous and as a result we are able to switch from oil heating to a heat pump which will save us thousands (currently costs us around £1000 for half a tank of oil).

hattie43 · 19/09/2026 07:52

I’m honestly thinking it would be cheaper to book a 6 mth out of season hotel room in Spain than funding a winter here .

MellowSubmarine · 19/09/2026 07:49

bottleofredbottleofwhite · 19/09/2026 06:45

But how can a minimum wage employee afford to subside the company when prices are increasing so rapidly?

You probably know this, but in case anyone doesn’t, if your employer pays below the 55p rate, you can claim tax relief on the gap. Obviously it’s not as good as if the employer paid it but if you do a lot of mileage then it’s probably worth doing.

Also your employer needs to make sure your necessary expenses don’t take you below NMW. For NMW purposes, it’s actual expenses (so actual fuel costs), not the 55p rate.

HonorBound · 19/09/2026 07:42

wages are to low and if we were angry rather than passive, we’d be protesting about the low wages.

when you e got the likes of Starbucks putting staff on salary instead of hourly paid, so they don’t get paid for overtime

tesco, staff 50p over nmw (they employed 330,000 total staff) and £937 million paid to shareholders, yet a large proportion of the staff claim UC. So we pay tax which indirectly goes to a large company to top up their wages. Wages need to be raised to lower the tax burden

when are we going to be frustrated enough to protest about the greed of keeping workers on handouts

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scalt · 19/09/2026 07:30

As I said on the other thread, it’s not “worried” that we should be. We need to be ANGRY. The millionaire politicians need to notice that we are being bitten on all sides by the ever-increasing costs (and I say that one reason for some of them was month after month of LOCKDOWN, something being quietly forgotten). If the politicians are quietly doing nothing to try to price people off the road, like Sir Tony fucking Bliar did, then they should be making other things trains more affordable. (And don’t say “get an EV, mine costs nothing to run” the set up costs and repairs are very, very high.)

Sooner or later, the people will rise up in anger, especially those who need to drive to earn their living. At the moment, they’re just tutting and sighing about high prices, and getting angry about immigration instead, but the public anger might happen eventually, when their earnings are wiped out by the cost of getting to work. The government isn’t even bothering with the Boris Johnson approach of waffling complete nonsense while doing precisely nothing.

Boomer55 · 19/09/2026 07:28

The trouble is that rising fuel costs affects everything - even if you don’t drive, and cut back on household heating.

Companies have to pay more, such as farmers and manufacturers/importers, so food, and everything else, goes up and up. 🤷‍♀️

AtlasPine · 19/09/2026 07:27

We’re planning to have heating on quite a bit lower than usual and for less hours than usual but still enough to keep the house dry and mould free.

God help those who are struggling to do even that. I hope there will at least be warm community places open during the day for them especially the elderly and those who are less mobile.

Telecone · 19/09/2026 07:27

Yanbu. My fixed price duel fuel is coming to an end and will go from 180 a month to £245 a month. I've never had such a leap before.

LlynTegid · 19/09/2026 07:27

bottleofredbottleofwhite · 18/09/2026 21:47

Please let the government do something for people who need their cars for work. Maybe put pressure on businesses to increase their staff mileage expenses to the full 55pence

Asking people to come into the office more should also be discouraged. The cost of transport for most people is more than extra energy costs at home.

EasternStandard · 19/09/2026 07:24

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 19/09/2026 07:19

Now the Saudi Aramco deliveries have stopped, things will get a lot worse. Petrol will be £2 a litre by next month, diesel £2:30. I think the government should cut fuel duty for a few months. They are making millions extra off high fuel prices. They talk about windfall taxes on Oil and Gas companies, but they are doing exactly the same thing themselves, the extra fuel duty they are making now is a windfall. It should be given back to the people, we need it more than they do.

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LoafofSellotape · 19/09/2026 07:23

Anothercake · 18/09/2026 21:45

Yep, because I'll have it right next to me and just do that room. House thermostat will be set to 12C to prevent any pipe freezing issues, but I don't want to use the main heating system.

I advise against this. We did this one year and ended up with mould in the rooms that we didn't heat. Even if you put the hearing on just for an hour a day it will help.

bingobangs · 19/09/2026 07:23

It’s all very depressing

ThePeppyOpalScroller · 19/09/2026 07:19

Now the Saudi Aramco deliveries have stopped, things will get a lot worse. Petrol will be £2 a litre by next month, diesel £2:30. I think the government should cut fuel duty for a few months. They are making millions extra off high fuel prices. They talk about windfall taxes on Oil and Gas companies, but they are doing exactly the same thing themselves, the extra fuel duty they are making now is a windfall. It should be given back to the people, we need it more than they do.

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