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To miss refined air travel?

324 replies

BABaby88 · 17/09/2026 10:05

It's great everyone can travel. I'm sure. But I grew up travelling in airport lounges and flight decks where people dressed for the occasion.

I was in the Gatwick BA first class lounge this morning for a long weekend with DP and DC and goodness it was horrendous. Tracksuits, flipflops, everyone's guts hanging out, people stuffing packets of crisps into their bags as if famine was incoming.

Am I awful to miss the days when non-economy air travel felt a bit like a luxury not an endurance?

OP posts:
backformoreofthesame · 17/09/2026 15:04

Smart can also mean new. Additional cost

as long as people are decent let them choose their own clothes

you never know they may think you look like a stuck up joyless prude in your choice of clothes but they have slightly more manners and good behaviour ( things that do matter ) than to go and start a thread about it

Wookyhole · 17/09/2026 15:01

GarlicSomething · 17/09/2026 14:41

How ingenious!

I can usually tell what I'm doing without having to consult my clothes for clues. Happy it works for you, though.

What?! Quite a spiteful reply?!

nomas · 17/09/2026 14:43

PyschodelicSoup · 17/09/2026 14:34

@nomas

There's nothing wrong with wearing some smart jogging bottoms and a soft top.

The desription smart didn't fit the picture the OP presented though.

OP objects to tracksuits so I doubt she would be happy with jogging bottoms.

Redpaisley · 17/09/2026 14:42

BABaby88 · 17/09/2026 10:42

No, sorry, your mistake.

My children's schools ban football shirts at mufti days because they're uncouth.

They were surprised football shirts are acceptable attire in a lounge, considering:

I think you will need to fly your family in private planes.

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 17/09/2026 14:42

Oh well done OP, you’ve just reminded me that I have an iced coffee in my hotel fridge that I purloined from the lounge on the way out as the one I had there was so nice.🤣

(You’d hate me, am quite happy to wear smart joggers in First.)

GarlicSomething · 17/09/2026 14:41

Wookyhole · 17/09/2026 11:45

I still like to make an effort when flying (it’s not an everyday occurrence), makes me feel the holiday has started for me.

How ingenious!

I can usually tell what I'm doing without having to consult my clothes for clues. Happy it works for you, though.

PyschodelicSoup · 17/09/2026 14:34

nomas · 17/09/2026 14:24

What does presenting oneself well on a long haul flight look like?

A dress is too cold without tights in the aircabin longhaul.

Tights are too uncomfortable longhaul.

Jeans are uncomfortable longhaul.

Fitted trousers are uncomfortable long haul.

A skirt is too constricting and cold longhaul.

Some smart jogging bottoms and a soft top seem ideal for long haul. Why should women dress uncomfortably to please other people's eyes?

@nomas

There's nothing wrong with wearing some smart jogging bottoms and a soft top.

The desription smart didn't fit the picture the OP presented though.

TonyDancer · 17/09/2026 14:32

Try Stansted airport at about 6am. Hell on earth

ERthree · 17/09/2026 14:31

Sunbringer · 17/09/2026 10:09

Every time I fly business it still feels luxury. I don’t even notice what other people are wearing in the lounge (are you sure you were in the First lounge and not the Club Business lounge people can pay £30 to access? The actual first class lounges rarely have more than a couple of people in them).

Either way, enjoy the privilege of a luxurious flight that the majority of the Earth will never get the chance to try even once. Most humans will never even go on a plane or leave their local area.

I read somewhere only a few weeks ago that only 80% of the world's population has ever flown. I recently travelled on a train with a gentleman in his 40s that had never been out of London. He was shocked that there were "fields so close to London" In the 23 minutes it took to get to Reading he was beside himself with joy that he had seen real countryside. I encouraged him to head to the coast next as he has never seen the sea.

MissMoneyFairy · 17/09/2026 14:31

BABaby88 · 17/09/2026 10:33

And that's brilliant! No frills airlines are great and serve a purpose. I use them sometimes for work.

My issue is paying to use the BA / Emirates lounge and finding people dressed like they're going to a football match shovelling food into their guts / bags.

Have you written to the airlines ceo to suggest they introduce a dress code and ban fast foods from the lounges, the food is free so people take it, maybe you could suggest a slightly more upmarket menu.

LondonLass2026 · 17/09/2026 14:24

angelos02 · 17/09/2026 11:50

I was watching an old episode of Tales of the Unexpected earlier and was shocked at how smart everyone was - just going about their day - shopping etc. The state of the majority now is shocking. You can spot someone from the UK a mile off when at airports abroad. It is so embarrassing.

I thought that, as I like to watch old episodes (just the UK ones, the US ones aren't my cup of tea). Everyone is so polished.

Also the accents! Lovely.

You see the same if you watch old adverts from the 80s.

nomas · 17/09/2026 14:24

PyschodelicSoup · 17/09/2026 14:20

You don't have to be rich though to present yourself well.

What does presenting oneself well on a long haul flight look like?

A dress is too cold without tights in the aircabin longhaul.

Tights are too uncomfortable longhaul.

Jeans are uncomfortable longhaul.

Fitted trousers are uncomfortable long haul.

A skirt is too constricting and cold longhaul.

Some smart jogging bottoms and a soft top seem ideal for long haul. Why should women dress uncomfortably to please other people's eyes?

PyschodelicSoup · 17/09/2026 14:20

nomas · 17/09/2026 10:08

YABU. Travelling shouldn't just be for the rich.

I would be sympathetic about concerns about the environment but not withholding travel from the ordinary folk.

You don't have to be rich though to present yourself well.

Yogafiend · 17/09/2026 14:19

Somethinggg · 17/09/2026 13:46

Or they have to dress smartly because they're working on arrival perhaps. Rather than having the freedom to choose what they want to wear on the flight.

I have never dressed smart (neither has my husband). You shower and change when you land and then go off to meetings. I have to agree with @GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER i would assume it’s their first time if they dress smartly.

BugJuice · 17/09/2026 14:17

BorgQueen · 17/09/2026 13:31

I’m gutted that Manchester closed the 1903 lounge, it was adults only and I could relax there ( I find airports and travelling hugely stressful) . The new lounge that relaced it allows kids in - Why? The other lounge has always been for families so now they get two and we get none.
I can remember the 90’s when flying Virgin atlantic economy to Florida or New York used to be a real treat, blanket/pillow/nice amenity bag,
the last time we flew with them was 2018 and it was a zoo, filthy seats, entertainment broken, no help yourself to drinks and snacks, kids running up and down the plane screaming.
I’ve not flown long haul since then and would now only do it if I could afford at least business class.

Presumably it’s an economic decision. They always are. They’ll make more money this way. They’re not doing it out of charity.

LondonPapa · 17/09/2026 14:16

Yogafiend · 17/09/2026 13:15

If you are flying first class you can use the Concorde lounge. Your kids don’t need any tier points at all. We can only access that lounge when we fly first. If we fly business we can’t (even though we are all gold members and my husband is gold guest list member). I think you’re probably mistaken and are going to the galleries and think that’s the first class. But having said that never seen anyone there with their “guts hanging out”.

Having read OP’s responses, I think they’re wrong too and have gone to the business lounge which is often like a zoo with slobs (IME). The first lounge at Gatwick requires Gold status and is not accessible through cabin booking. Unlike Concorde room at LHR which is accessed with first class cabin booking.

ERthree · 17/09/2026 14:11

nomas · 17/09/2026 10:08

YABU. Travelling shouldn't just be for the rich.

I would be sympathetic about concerns about the environment but not withholding travel from the ordinary folk.

Looking presentable and behaving in a civilised manner has nothing to do with money.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 17/09/2026 14:04

Somethinggg · 17/09/2026 13:46

Or they have to dress smartly because they're working on arrival perhaps. Rather than having the freedom to choose what they want to wear on the flight.

Yes, but it’s usually pretty obvious whether it’s smart business dressing, or just ‘dressing up’.

Redpaisley · 17/09/2026 14:00

BABaby88 · 17/09/2026 10:25

I'm 38.

When I was younger I used to dress up stylishly during my travels. I had to look good all the time :) Now during travels my priority is comfort. Who wants to wear a short skirt and heels on 8 hours flight? I don’t wear night pyjamas but my clothes are comfy more than stylish.

What do you wear during air travels?

Redpaisley · 17/09/2026 13:53

nomas · 17/09/2026 10:08

YABU. Travelling shouldn't just be for the rich.

I would be sympathetic about concerns about the environment but not withholding travel from the ordinary folk.

I think she meant first class.

Askandyforcompo · 17/09/2026 13:48

nomas · 17/09/2026 12:33

You flew from Gatwick though, which mainly handles low-cost airlines and leisure flights.

Was Heathrow out of budget?

BA long haul flies from Gatwick. It's not more expensive to go to Heathrow. For many people it's more convenient to go to Gatwick.

I've flown business class from Gatwick loads of times for work (and on holiday to Barbados)

Somethinggg · 17/09/2026 13:46

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 17/09/2026 13:40

I’ve flown long haul first class a few times, and you just don’t see people ‘dressed up’. If anyone is, I’d assume that it’s their first time and they assume it’s the norm. It isn’t.
Being comfortable, especially for long haul, is the most important thing.
As for BA pyjamas and flat beds, bliss on a long flight!

Or they have to dress smartly because they're working on arrival perhaps. Rather than having the freedom to choose what they want to wear on the flight.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 17/09/2026 13:40

I’ve flown long haul first class a few times, and you just don’t see people ‘dressed up’. If anyone is, I’d assume that it’s their first time and they assume it’s the norm. It isn’t.
Being comfortable, especially for long haul, is the most important thing.
As for BA pyjamas and flat beds, bliss on a long flight!

BorgQueen · 17/09/2026 13:31

I’m gutted that Manchester closed the 1903 lounge, it was adults only and I could relax there ( I find airports and travelling hugely stressful) . The new lounge that relaced it allows kids in - Why? The other lounge has always been for families so now they get two and we get none.
I can remember the 90’s when flying Virgin atlantic economy to Florida or New York used to be a real treat, blanket/pillow/nice amenity bag,
the last time we flew with them was 2018 and it was a zoo, filthy seats, entertainment broken, no help yourself to drinks and snacks, kids running up and down the plane screaming.
I’ve not flown long haul since then and would now only do it if I could afford at least business class.

Calliopespa · 17/09/2026 13:25

Maybe don't take commercial flights?