AIBU to oppose housing 1,000 undocumented young men near Piddington?

Only for the past 2 years.

And as part of leaving the EU we knew that it would increase immigration from non-EU countries and we would have less say on what happens to illegal immigrants when they got here and about sending them back etc.

It wouldn’t matter what political party was in power.

That wouldn’t change that people voted to have an increase in non-EU immigration when they voted to leave the EU.

You can’t keep blaming labour or the left and forget about the people who actually voted for us to be in this situation.

I would say that the majority who voted for labour did not vote to leave the EU and did not want us to be in this situation.

You either put the blame on those that voted for Brexit or you say forget about the blame game and how can we find a solution going forward.

The freedom to go where they like unimpeded and do what they like may be an even bigger draw. There's a lack of formality here, no card carrying or checks, and minimal barriers or bureaucracy, plus plenty of opportunity for casual or illegal working or even living off crime.

Let’s see how the French elections go. Also Australia got numbers very low with their system.

Zero boat crossings. And those coming in on lorries. And deporting the almost 2 million people that are in the UK that shouldn't be. That would be a start.

’Sending them back’ isn’t going to happen so if that’s what you’re hoping for then no system is going to satisfy you.

You said it appears to be working not me. It’s clearly not working otherwise we wouldn’t need space for over a thousand men. And yes, I do expect overnight fixes, send them back to wherever they have come from and stop letting them have benefits if they are granted asylum. I don’t see what’s so difficult about it, once the money/handouts stops then they’ll stop coming. There’s no better deterrent than not giving access to the benefit system.

What would you consider a ‘successful’ reduction at this point, if Labour had continued with the Rwanda plan for the last two years?

What makes Piddington more special than any other area?

Bottom line, these people need to be processed and removed.

Labour are in power. The EU has similar migration issues atm anyway.

It was definitely just ignorant pride. The scheme was about to take off, it was ready to be fully up and running. Labour ended up spunking an obscene amount of money out of sheer twattiness, but that was Keir for you.

No, I brought up a court case that the government fought to win.

Actually lots of orgs said Rwanda act would fail whilst Tories were in power, including The Financial Times, The Economist, Oxford Migration Observatory and the Institute for Government.

1000 young men with nothing to do all housed together is never ever a good idea

With a small population the impact is felt more

That so many come from cultures where woman and girls are second class citizens and very often opinions of western culture and western woman are viewed negatively and less equal makes the issue even more concerning

Its not going to bring cultural changes that may enrich the lives of people in the area because they will have no purpose, no money maybe a shop or two will pop up to serve them but this is not to integrate people into the local community its to simply hold them for a period of time

I don’t know how you keep going on about labour.

Those that voted for Brexit knew that it would result in an increase of immigrants from non-EU countries but decided that this was ok - so if you’re trying to blame people, why are you not blaming those that voted to leave the EU and ultimately caused the problem?

They're people, I believe. Animals are 'homed'. People are housed.

We already have 5 HMO hostels/hotels near us already. And students. Students are worse.

Yes the point of a deterrent is it impacts behaviour. Australian numbers are very low after thousands.

Why would I respond to someone rudely saying 'it's you again'?

I don't even recognise your username, so find someone else to nag.

But it was though.

This isn’t about reducing the numbers of immigrants - that’s a completely different argument.

It’s saying where should they be put:

In hostels/hotels which are not suitable for long-term livening, set in deprived urban areas - which is why people were complaining about the hotels being used.

Or

In an unused military base that has been designed to house hundreds on middle aged men, set on the outskirts of a village

Its literally one or the other until another solution is found.
There is no - I don’t want either.

Saying just stop allowing them in is not a solution because life just doesn’t work like that.

There are already decreasing numbers of illegal immigrants coming into the country.
People didn’t like the use of hotels and so this has been offered as an alternative solution.
If it is blocked, the immigrants won’t disappear - they’ll just continue being put into hostels.

I then actually gave a response to your previous post. But you do this always and ignore responses that challenge you.

Of course had it failed, Labour would have done what they always do and blamed the previous government. Labour's one in one out is just nominal results.

Tories solution was even more expensive (£170k per person)

Sending asylum seekers to Rwanda will cost about £170,000 per person,

The cost per individual of the relocations would be roughly £169,000 “over the multiyear lifetime of the scheme”, according to Home Office calculations. This includes an estimated £105,000 provided to the Rwandan authorities, a figure based on costs of a similar Syrian scheme; £19,000 to meet the costs incurred by the Home Office and Ministry of Justice; and £22,000 to cover the flights.

https://www.ft.com/content/2a510246-495c-49e8-a064-07871122db6f?syn-25a6b1a6=1

Not everyone would have gone..but at least some