AIBU to oppose housing 1,000 undocumented young men near Piddington?

Of course no one is obliged to offer practical solutions but to moan about certain issues and no practical solutions being found, whilst also not being able to come up with one themselves is dense.

It’s like telling someone with postnatal depression to just stop feeling sad.

Of course you’re entitled to your opinion but you have to be dense if you think saying “just stop being sad” is going to make a difference.

People say things like stop all illegal immigration - which is ridiculous because it’s not physically possible.

And also when people post per capita data and show the results you ignore that

You literally ignored my response to your UKSC post

I don't want undocumented males coming here en masse either, but I've said YABU because whilst they are processed they need to be housed somewhere and a former military base is an isolated and secure place to do this (and much cheaper than building new detention centres).

I don't want people to commit crime but they do, so we need prisons, and no-one wants a prison near them either.

I don't want people to be dangerously mentally ill, but they are, so secure hospitals exist. I don't suppose people were overjoyed to have those near their homes either.

Etc.

People aren't dense for feeling how they do. Nobody is obliged to offer practical solutions. They can be happy just to share their thoughts, in safe spaces for women.

You’re never going to have zero boat crossings or zero people coming in on lorries - you know that, so what’s the point in even saying it?

What evidence have you provided?

What evidence have you provided?

What would you consider a ‘successful’ reduction at this point, if Labour had continued with the Rwanda plan for the last two years?

Well there you go again. Evidence is shown contrary to you. An arguement made challenging your previous response and you do what you always do and you just ignore it.

This is exactly what it boils down to!!

Too many people just say things like - we don’t want people coming over here on boats, send them back, we don’t want them in this military base or anywhere else 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

They say these things but offer no sensible solutions or alternatives and then moan that nothing is changing.

I just think they like the sound of their own voices perhaps because I can’t see that anyone can be so dense to say these things and not think about why they won’t work.

Immigration has reduced.
Efforts are being made to reduce it further.

People weren’t happy that hotels were being used so the government chose to use an empty military base that is designed to house hundred of men.

You can’t say you oppose it but not offer any alternative solutions.

If posters think hotels are a better solution then say why - it’s a discussion forum.

Some posters have made really good points, whilst others want things to happen overnight or unattainable solutions.

What I’m hoping for is that we vote in a party that will actually do something when we have the next election. Like I said, give them no access to handouts for the first few years and they’ll stop coming. Maybe we need to follow other countries, in most you’d be jailed if you entered on a small boat then deported but we are a soft touch and they know it.

Why would I respond to someone rudely saying 'it's you again'?

I don't even recognise your username, so find someone else to nag.

If you expect overnight fixes for anything you’ll always be disappointed.

Let’s see how the French elections go. Also Australia got numbers very low with their system.

You’re never going to have zero boat crossings or zero people coming in on lorries - you know that, so what’s the point in even saying it?

’Sending them back’ isn’t going to happen so if that’s what you’re hoping for then no system is going to satisfy you.

Only for the past 2 years.

And as part of leaving the EU we knew that it would increase immigration from non-EU countries and we would have less say on what happens to illegal immigrants when they got here and about sending them back etc.

It wouldn’t matter what political party was in power.

That wouldn’t change that people voted to have an increase in non-EU immigration when they voted to leave the EU.

You can’t keep blaming labour or the left and forget about the people who actually voted for us to be in this situation.

I would say that the majority who voted for labour did not vote to leave the EU and did not want us to be in this situation.

You either put the blame on those that voted for Brexit or you say forget about the blame game and how can we find a solution going forward.

Zero boat crossings. And those coming in on lorries. And deporting the almost 2 million people that are in the UK that shouldn't be. That would be a start.

Zero boat crossings. And those coming in on lorries. And deporting the almost 2 million people that are in the UK that shouldn't be. That would be a start.

Australia sets an annual cap of 20,000 places for its official Refugee and Humanitarian Program, while thousands more apply for asylum from within the country each year. (www.redcross.org.au/act/help-refugees/refugee-facts/), [2] (www.refugeecouncil.org.au/rcoa-refugee-get-the-facts/), [3] (www.asyluminsight.com/new-index), [4] (https://www.asyluminsight.com/refugees-and-people-seeking-asylum-in-the-australian-community)