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Am I being stupid and potentially leaving myself in a vulnerable position?

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GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:29

So conflicted about my current situation and would appreciate some advice.

Im in my early 50s and have been living in my partner's house for the last 4.5 years after selling my property to release funds and move in with him. It happened quickly, I moved in after a few months of dating him.

I've paid 50% of everything since I moved in. He is mortgage free, so 50% of all bills, food, insurance etc.

We're coming up to 5 years of being in a very committed relationship and I'm starting to feel very anxious about my situation.

I'm divorced and suffered from financial and emotional abuse in my first marriage. I promised myself I'd never leave myself vulnerable again after my first marriage broke down, it took everything I had to get over the abuse and cheating.

I find myself with a lovely man now. Kind, caring, lovely to me.

But I'm uncomfortable with the fact that I am not building up anything for myself or my future.

What if he dumps me, or dies! He will not talk about marriage, if I even mention a civil ceremony he clams up. He has no will and doesn't seem to want to make one.

How do I protect myself in this situation? Just carry on living here and paying half of everything?

Why is it that I feel the need for marriage to feel secure.

He's such an avoidant personality... I can't even talk to him about doing up the mouldy en suite we've been living with for over 4 years... it's disgusting but he says he's not bothered by it.. I've offered to pay half to rectify it but he shouted at me and said he's happy to live with it as is.

Am I being stupid to just carry on coasting along ..... I need something solid. I lost everything when my first husband left me, am I leaving myself vulnerable again?

OP posts:
LemonTT · 16/09/2026 14:09

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:25

Anybody can declare love. But it’s a verb and he is not doing much to demonstrate it

I’m totally capable of loving someone without giving them money and assets.

FourSevenFive · 16/09/2026 14:09

tara66 · 16/09/2026 12:03

Taking the trouble to point out to the horror my previous post caused - I am under impression OP WANTS marriage.
Secondly this exactly what I did - I booked a marriage at a Magistrate's Court myself and the man I had 2 children with turned up and we were married. He then DIED 6 months later .

If all the children between you two were yours together and your DP was just passive but not against the marriage, ideally you've discussed it before, your approach makes sense. Women don't have to wait for romantic proposal with a ring, sometimes agreeing to get married is absolutely ok

In this case the partner has children with someone else, never offered/promised marriage and very probably doesn't plan to get married - he supposwdly sees it them as a partnership of two adults with independent money.

Very probably, part of his refusal around the bathroom is, that he doesn't want the OP to invest in improvements of his home.

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So... while your case makes sense, the applicability on OP's situation is limited.

disturbia · 16/09/2026 14:07

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

Sorry but he doesn't love you that much if he won't marry you or offer some security or make a will or change the bathroom.

Comeonbabylightmyaga · 16/09/2026 13:57

I would want my home to go to my dc too.

It sounds like you’ve never really been on your own and that you have been conditioned to believe that you need a man to support you.

WallaceinAnderland · 16/09/2026 13:50

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 01:03

I'm scared to leave him.

There, I said it.

Sunken cost fallacy and all that.

Nearly 5 years of living in a shit area, for what.

I am so cross with myself.

But I have a devil on my shoulder saying ... stay... what if he was going to propose or make sure you were provided for... he was going to do it soon... but you left before he could fo it....

OP seems to only want this man for his money. She believes that marrying him would give her financial security because she would inherit his property or at least have some claim on it. If this was a man posting he would get pasted on here.

OP talks about the sunken cost fallacy as if she has committed herself to the extent that changing the situation would mean taking a financial hit. But she has not had any more costs than she would have done if she had remained in her own house for the last 5 years. In fact, she would have had a mortgage to pay on top of her utilities!

She's been living rent free and only paying her rightful share of the bills. The man could not have been more reasonable. On top of that she now wants him to fork out for home improvements which she wants and he doesn't.

OP if you are still reading, you know what you have to do. You need a job so that you can either secure a mortgage and buy a home of your own or use your wages to live off and protect the proceeds of the sale of your house. Your semi retirement has to come to an end because you can't actually afford early retirement.

Morecoffeeneedef · 16/09/2026 13:34

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:49

I am blundering, coasting, hoping he'll give me the security I'm asking for.

It hurts even more, knowing that he knows the financial abuse I put up with for years, and how I struggled to rectify everything financially after my first husband left me.

Edited

Actually, it isn't his responsibility to make up for the previous financial abuse you suffered . It's your responsibility to look out for yourself , and since you rightly feel nervous about the current situation and can't reach an agreement you are both happy with , you need to take independent action.
Maybe buy a flat and live separately, maybe buy a small rental property, maybe invest tge money so it's available to pay a future deposit. It doesn't matter if he's upset by your choice. In order to feel safe you need to trust yourself, not someone else.

SandyHappyPerson · 16/09/2026 13:27

TheXisthatway · 16/09/2026 13:09

You can't get married when only one person wants to!

Her partner has been absolutely clear he does not want to. And he has very good grounds not to get married. That is a reasonable view he has.

What is not reasonable is him trying to prevent her from buying a property of her own, through his emotional reaction when she mentioned this to him.

What is not reasonable is him trying to prevent her from buying a property of her own, through his emotional reaction when she mentioned this to him.

It's not really to do with her buying a property of her own, she told him she would buy a property to live in, which is what he got upset about because he sees that as them breaking up.

If she was serious abut them getting married, moving out would be the last thing on her mind, she would be looking at buying a house and renting it out so she has always got that asset herself, but she is not interested in securing her OWN financial security. She wants him to hand his over to her, and is using threats of moving out to get her own way.

DooDallyHallie · 16/09/2026 13:26

He is providing a property for you to live in rent free ehilst you sit on the profits of your house sale. I would say you are on to a pretty good thing there!

RosaNovella · 16/09/2026 13:24

JustSayyNo · 16/09/2026 07:47

He has children. It's not control and abuse if he's protecting his children. Though you'd think part of that would be protecting their inheritance by making sure the bathroom was fixed. I wouldn't be making a will leaving the house to OP in his position either. This is one reason I will never have a relationship if I am widowed. I want to protect the assets for my children.

Fair enough but he hasnt actually done that
Has he?
Hes emotionally unavailable and shouts at her if she asks if they can fix the bathroom
Her money is dripping away, he is emotionally abusing and blackmailing Op into not buying herself a property
Hes NOT a loving partner

SandyHappyPerson · 16/09/2026 13:18

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:46

Because she would have nowhere to live and the closer and closer she gets to retirement the harder and harder it will be to get a mortgage. Nevermind the difficulty of paying a mortgage out of a pension.

She is dithering and dallying and living in a gross environment instead of rectifying that situation now.

She's been living rent free for five years and has nothing to show for it? Who's fault is that?

Which doesn’t detract from what I wrote, right? She’s leaving herself incredibly vulnerable and needs to rectify that now.

Edited

You need to prioritise your financial security. If get upset then he needs to commit to making changes to give you that security.

She can't afford a mortgage now, let alone in the future, so using 'moving out into her own place' as a bargaining chip to force him to give her financial security is just an empty threat to get him to comply, and says a lot about what OP is prepared to do to get her own way.

He doesn't want to lose her, so has said he would be upset if she moved out, which is understandable, but why should he get married or sign over half his assets to keep her from moving out?? Ultimatums never really work the way people want them to for good reason sometimes.

She needed to have bought her own place and rented it out if she wanted a guaranteed roof over her head for life, or used her money more wisely, though about her job in more practical terms, she has had 5 years living rent free to built a financial support system for herself, but hasn't bothered, instead she's pinned all her hopes on him handing over everything he's worked for.

Emmylou22 · 16/09/2026 13:15

In a nutshell:
He wants to safeguard his financial assets (fair enough)
He doesn't want you to invest in a financial asset to safeguard yourself.

To me, that's a deal-breaker. Summon up your independence and TELL him that's what you're going to do. If he still won't engage with anything you're telling him is important to you, you'll leave. Your life will be unimaginably better. Starting again can be wonderful. Right now, you're miserable and have no security in your relationship or financial status. The alternative to that is starting again on your own in a home that isn't mouldy. There is no option where you stay with him and be happy. Sorry to be blunt but I can see you know how desperately wrong this situation is for you.

TheXisthatway · 16/09/2026 13:09

tara66 · 16/09/2026 12:03

Taking the trouble to point out to the horror my previous post caused - I am under impression OP WANTS marriage.
Secondly this exactly what I did - I booked a marriage at a Magistrate's Court myself and the man I had 2 children with turned up and we were married. He then DIED 6 months later .

You can't get married when only one person wants to!

Her partner has been absolutely clear he does not want to. And he has very good grounds not to get married. That is a reasonable view he has.

What is not reasonable is him trying to prevent her from buying a property of her own, through his emotional reaction when she mentioned this to him.

Sartre · 16/09/2026 13:08

I’d buy a property and rent it out just so you have your own place if he leaves you or dies.

Howmuchisthatparrotinthewindow · 16/09/2026 13:07

Pretty sure no lodger would put up with a mouldy bathroom! He's sees you as less than even that.

redboxer321 · 16/09/2026 13:05

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:46

Because she would have nowhere to live and the closer and closer she gets to retirement the harder and harder it will be to get a mortgage. Nevermind the difficulty of paying a mortgage out of a pension.

She is dithering and dallying and living in a gross environment instead of rectifying that situation now.

She's been living rent free for five years and has nothing to show for it? Who's fault is that?

Which doesn’t detract from what I wrote, right? She’s leaving herself incredibly vulnerable and needs to rectify that now.

Edited

A RIO mortgage requires interest only payments. It's ideal for someone who doesn't have kids and therefore doesn't feel like they have to leave anything to anyone. They're targeted at people who only have a pension/pensions and/or unreliable income, so long as they have a deposit and are over 50. Interest rates are high - 6% ish - but it's not true to say it's harder to get a mortgage as one gets older.

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:46

SandyHappyPerson · 16/09/2026 12:41

You are leaving yourself incredibly vulnerable if this relationship ends / he dies.

Why is she? In reality she should be no worse off than when she started.. she chose to sell her house, she chose to work an unstable job and eat into all her savings. His house isn't hers to 'claim' and never will be, good for him.

She's been living rent free for five years and has nothing to show for it? Who's fault is that?

Because she would have nowhere to live and the closer and closer she gets to retirement the harder and harder it will be to get a mortgage. Nevermind the difficulty of paying a mortgage out of a pension.

She is dithering and dallying and living in a gross environment instead of rectifying that situation now.

She's been living rent free for five years and has nothing to show for it? Who's fault is that?

Which doesn’t detract from what I wrote, right? She’s leaving herself incredibly vulnerable and needs to rectify that now.

OneSparklyGoat · 16/09/2026 12:43

Are you helping with childcare?

SandyHappyPerson · 16/09/2026 12:41

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:23

The fact you have to delicately and “gently” ask him basic things is a red flag in itself. You are leaving yourself incredibly vulnerable if this relationship ends / he dies. You need to prioritise your financial security. If get upset then he needs to commit to making changes to give you that security. Although I would likely be put off this man full stop. The bathroom alone and everything being on his terms. Whose idea was it to move in so quickly.

You are leaving yourself incredibly vulnerable if this relationship ends / he dies.

Why is she? In reality she should be no worse off than when she started.. she chose to sell her house, she chose to work an unstable job and eat into all her savings. His house isn't hers to 'claim' and never will be, good for him.

She's been living rent free for five years and has nothing to show for it? Who's fault is that?

TheVeryThing · 16/09/2026 12:40

Keyleads · 16/09/2026 11:21

OP, you need to get real.
You have gone from one shit relationship to puttimg yourself in such a vulnerable position.

Good men do not behave like this.
Your bar is really low.

He likes things just as they are.
You and your feelings, security are not a priority.

Ffs, you have been his housemate for 5 years.
Money in his pocket.

Honestly, you need to get real fast.

Forget about him, because he really isn't thinking of you.

He will miss your money contribution for sure.

Women like you end up in real poverty because they refused to face their reality.

You cannot afford a relationship.
You need home security more than a man.

He has school aged children????

Sure of course he is protecting his asset whilst using the arse off you to pay 50% of his costs.

Does he host his children regularly?
You pay 50% of costs.

Unbelievable that you would fall for this.
I bet he is lovely.....but gets angry if you bring anything up🙄.

You have been spectacularly naive.
I hope you are waking up to that.

Edited

How is he 'using the arse off' her?
She is living in his house, that he paid for, rent-free for the last five years. If anything, she's using him.
I have sympathy for the OP but I think on some level she saw moving in with him as a way to escape the job she hated.
If she was a man everyone would be calling her a cocklodger.
The partner is far from perfect but he is an irrelevance here. The reality is that she is responsible for securing her own future, no one else.

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:39

SandyHappyPerson · 16/09/2026 10:32

She doesn't pay rent, he is mortgage free in a property he owns outright, he has school age children.

All she pays is half the utilities.. she genuinely doesn't appreciate how good she has it right now to be honest! It sounds like she won't be happy until he has handed over half his assets to her though.

She doesn’t have it good in so far as she has nowhere to live in old age if this relationship goes tits up and when she suggested doing something about that (buying herself a property) he “got upset”. She just needs to do that and not worry about his reaction.

Fyr · 16/09/2026 12:27

tara66 · 16/09/2026 12:03

Taking the trouble to point out to the horror my previous post caused - I am under impression OP WANTS marriage.
Secondly this exactly what I did - I booked a marriage at a Magistrate's Court myself and the man I had 2 children with turned up and we were married. He then DIED 6 months later .

Assuming those 2 things are not related?

AND you already had 2 dc WITH him?

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:25

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

Anybody can declare love. But it’s a verb and he is not doing much to demonstrate it

JHound · 16/09/2026 12:23

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:49

I am blundering, coasting, hoping he'll give me the security I'm asking for.

It hurts even more, knowing that he knows the financial abuse I put up with for years, and how I struggled to rectify everything financially after my first husband left me.

Edited

The fact you have to delicately and “gently” ask him basic things is a red flag in itself. You are leaving yourself incredibly vulnerable if this relationship ends / he dies. You need to prioritise your financial security. If get upset then he needs to commit to making changes to give you that security. Although I would likely be put off this man full stop. The bathroom alone and everything being on his terms. Whose idea was it to move in so quickly.

LemonTT · 16/09/2026 12:15

In your post you state you don’t want to be financially vulnerable following your experience with a previous split. This is sensible and applies to both of you.

Living with him means you don’t pay rent or a mortgage. Which is a significant outgoing for most people. Further being able to split other living costs is less expensive than living on your own. By moving in with him you should have more disposable income.

When you sold, you released equity and this is yours to invest or save as you see fit. What you invest in is up to you. I wouldn’t buy a BTL without establishing if this will give you a better yield than other options. This is not the case for a lot of property investment atm.

By moving in with him you have been able to reduce your outgoings and invest your capital and additional income as you see fit. As you say it is important you don’t put that at risk but this principle applies to him.

PumpkinPieAlibi · 16/09/2026 12:08

tara66 · 16/09/2026 12:03

Taking the trouble to point out to the horror my previous post caused - I am under impression OP WANTS marriage.
Secondly this exactly what I did - I booked a marriage at a Magistrate's Court myself and the man I had 2 children with turned up and we were married. He then DIED 6 months later .

Yeah but it sounds like HE doesn't want to get married. And at that point, one 'no' means there's no way forward.

OP needs to leave; he doesn't want to marry her.