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Am I being stupid and potentially leaving myself in a vulnerable position?

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GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:29

So conflicted about my current situation and would appreciate some advice.

Im in my early 50s and have been living in my partner's house for the last 4.5 years after selling my property to release funds and move in with him. It happened quickly, I moved in after a few months of dating him.

I've paid 50% of everything since I moved in. He is mortgage free, so 50% of all bills, food, insurance etc.

We're coming up to 5 years of being in a very committed relationship and I'm starting to feel very anxious about my situation.

I'm divorced and suffered from financial and emotional abuse in my first marriage. I promised myself I'd never leave myself vulnerable again after my first marriage broke down, it took everything I had to get over the abuse and cheating.

I find myself with a lovely man now. Kind, caring, lovely to me.

But I'm uncomfortable with the fact that I am not building up anything for myself or my future.

What if he dumps me, or dies! He will not talk about marriage, if I even mention a civil ceremony he clams up. He has no will and doesn't seem to want to make one.

How do I protect myself in this situation? Just carry on living here and paying half of everything?

Why is it that I feel the need for marriage to feel secure.

He's such an avoidant personality... I can't even talk to him about doing up the mouldy en suite we've been living with for over 4 years... it's disgusting but he says he's not bothered by it.. I've offered to pay half to rectify it but he shouted at me and said he's happy to live with it as is.

Am I being stupid to just carry on coasting along ..... I need something solid. I lost everything when my first husband left me, am I leaving myself vulnerable again?

OP posts:
OldHackKidsInTow · 19/09/2026 22:07

Boomer55 · 19/09/2026 16:36

Well, as the only one responsible for you is you, as you are unmarried, I'd try and get a full time stable job as soon as possible

...a job in the council or NHS with a pension ideally. OP, You are running out of time to take a mortgage into retirement, which is possible, if u have enough occupational pension to see you through to aged 70/75

OldHackKidsInTow · 19/09/2026 22:00

You can make a cohabitation agreement and wills, and if he doesn't agree to this, its a deal breaker ,I'd say. I know its hard, but you're not happy and he's not making you feel secure, is he? Its immature of him, and its doing your future self a disservice to carry on as you both are.
Has he got family you can talk to about it? Invest your hard cash in something long term, a 5 year investment. Get some free advice. Do SOMETHING , and you won't feel so rubbish.
Its none of his business what you do with your other money if you're paying your way in this arrangement.
Has he got kids and an unfinished business with an ex ,who will inherit ?

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:51

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 01:50

When my first husband left me for his mistress, I lost everything, it took me a long time to recover, buy a house, sort myself out. I was on friend's sofas and a bag lady for a long time.

Then I met the most wonderful man, sold up and moved in with him. I absolutely believed that we'd be building a future together and I'd be feeling secure and happy after nearly 5 years.

However, all I feel like I'm doing at the moment is compromising where I live, paying half his bills, Im tied to where we live because he has school age children, he refuses to do any home improvements and if anything ever happened to him, or us, Id just be out on my arse, homeless and starting all over again. I had the energy (just) in my mid forties to rebuild a shattered life. But don't fancy doing that again, anytime, but certainly not in my 50s/60s.

Wtf am I doing!!!

I used to roll my eyes at my grandfather when he said I shouldn't have moved in with my boyfriend. (What do old people really know anyway, haha?) He'd ask me: "Why would a man buy a cow when he's getting the milk for free?" But you know what, I've apologized to my grandfather (even though he's long gone and I'm a grandmother myself now) because he was right. If a woman wants marriage, she shouldn't ever move in with her man until the knot is tied. I'd never do it again. (and yes, I know there are exceptions, but still)

Barney16 · 19/09/2026 19:42

You need to buy a property for yourself. In your current situation you are vulnerable a) if he dies, because you aren't married. b) he's calling the shots basically, he can't be arsed to fix the ensuite. That upsets you AND makes you too anxious to insist. You talk about marriage, he isn't bothered. He's basically ignoring your concerns, thoughts and feelings. I would be more bothered by b) to be honest.

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:34

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 01:03

I'm scared to leave him.

There, I said it.

Sunken cost fallacy and all that.

Nearly 5 years of living in a shit area, for what.

I am so cross with myself.

But I have a devil on my shoulder saying ... stay... what if he was going to propose or make sure you were provided for... he was going to do it soon... but you left before he could fo it....

You're going to be even more cross when you're really old and totally fucked. And you will be if you don't get out. Why in the world would he commit to you? He's already tested you for 5 years and seen that you don't value yourself. Why should he?

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:31

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

You can 'hope' all you want, but I can tell you right now he's never going to commit. The years are going to fly by even faster for you (I'm 67 now and it feels like an hour ago that I was 50) and you need to shake him off and get yourself set up in a secure situation.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:25

Not at all. Sometimes we all need an outside perspective but I suspect we are all just confirming what you already know deep down x

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:23

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

'he was really upset'--I'll bet he was. He's currently getting all the benefits of a live in gf plus help with finances. Let him be upset all he wants. Not your problem. Your problem is that you have no security in case things go south.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:22

Darling, if he was going to propose, he would have done it by now. Please don't tie your self worth to his actions.

BeAzureRaven · 19/09/2026 19:20

Yes, you are being unreasonable to stay in this situation. You are extremely vulnerable. Can you buy yourself another smaller place? If you can't afford to do that, I would try to find a rental that you can afford. A man is never a plan.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:20

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:57

Yes, ridiculous isn't it. But it's so hard to leave someone who declares such love for me.... I'm hoping with all my heart that he won't fuck up what we have by not committing... he always says when I bring it up that if anything happened to him I'd be better fine as I have some money in the bank.

Love is deeds as well as words.

dandeliondandy · 19/09/2026 19:18

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

Forgive my directness but how very 'dog in a manger' of him! He gets 50% discount on everything AND his own property if it breaks down AND I'll bet you cook, clean and wash for him too!

PLEASE get yourself sorted financially and do not rely on a man who is basically giving you the 'how long is a piece of string' response when you try to pin him down on committment (which you deserve BTW).

He sounds deeply complacent but you can't afford to be at this stage of your life.

BassBug · 19/09/2026 18:22

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:36

I've suggested this but he was really upset ... almost like I was dumping him.

Tell him straight that you aren't dumping him, you are dumping his disgusting bathroom. Personally? I would end the relationship : I'm worth more than that.

jdb9803 · 19/09/2026 18:09

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 19/09/2026 15:59

There is nothing that the op has said to suggest this is the case though (it could be we don’t know)

Which is why my initial post asked that very question - this was in response to someone suggesting by asking that I was saying she shouldn’t pay bills

Boomer55 · 19/09/2026 16:36

GreatPlumBiscuit · 16/09/2026 00:38

I have enough for a large deposit, but my work this year, although well paid, has been intermittent, so not stable enough to get a mortgage (I'm looking for a permanent job at the moment).

Well, as the only one responsible for you is you, as you are unmarried, I'd try and get a full time stable job as soon as possible

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 19/09/2026 15:59

jdb9803 · 18/09/2026 05:28

No, but doing all the cooking and cleaning is - and may be why he doesn't want her moving out - she's his free housekeeper

There is nothing that the op has said to suggest this is the case though (it could be we don’t know)

Solitudinemfaciuntpacemappellant · 18/09/2026 17:06

You have the wake up call you need, OP but I would not do anything hasty. You are currently living rent-free (albeit in a terrible house in a grim area). You are living off savings and depleting your assets but your assets will deplete faster if you move out and have to rent.
Here’s what I would do. Firstly get a fulltime job. Any job. Make that your number one priority. Stop living off your savings. Amass as much savings as you can as soon as you start working. Get good financial advice and ensure your savings are working as hard as possible while still within the risk parameters you are comfortable with. Look at your budget and if you can’t afford something, tell him you don’t want to pay for it and would prefer to do without. Protect your future deposit at all costs. Don’t ask him to buy anything, pay for anything or repair anything. Just keep building your savings and looking for promotions/ better jobs. Don’t be deflected by any arguments and if he gets aggressive or unpleasant or tries to make you pay rent, then don’t tell him what you are doing. But just keep doing it. Once you have amassed enough for a property, you can either buy or continue to save until you feel ready to move out. It may be that knowing you have enough to support yourself in future will take the pressure off and you may decide the rent free living arrangements work for both of you. But don’t compromise your future.

Fyr · 18/09/2026 11:05

SandyHappyPerson · 18/09/2026 09:40

She already floated the idea of her buying her own place and he got mad.

No he hasn't, she said she would move out into her own flat and he got really upset, like they were breaking up. I'm sure he wouldn't be upset with her buying a flat to rent out as an asset for her to own, but that isn't what she has said, it's either marriage, civil partnership, change his will to leave some of his assets to her or she moves out into her own flat.. how is that not a threat?.. oh yes, she is a woman so it doesn't count.

There's no need to re-write what OP herself has said.

And with regards the mould, OP has been there 4 fucking years.. they have BOTH let that bathroom get into a disgusting state, coming on here to say she wants a new bathroom after leaving the last one to rot would not go down well with me either to be fair.

I think OP should leave personally, she isn't going to get what she wants out of this relationship because he seems to have his head screwed on.

I don't see how anyone can think any different to you!!!

Rent / mortgage free for FIVE YEARS!
Half bills - more than fair

SandyHappyPerson · 18/09/2026 09:40

JHound · 16/09/2026 22:26

She has said she can afford a mortgage. She already floated the idea of her buying her own place and he got mad. She needs to do that, now. I cannot see any reasonable arguments against her making sure she is set property wise in the future.

Who is talking about bargaining chips? How is her procuring a property a “bargaining chip”?

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She already floated the idea of her buying her own place and he got mad.

No he hasn't, she said she would move out into her own flat and he got really upset, like they were breaking up. I'm sure he wouldn't be upset with her buying a flat to rent out as an asset for her to own, but that isn't what she has said, it's either marriage, civil partnership, change his will to leave some of his assets to her or she moves out into her own flat.. how is that not a threat?.. oh yes, she is a woman so it doesn't count.

There's no need to re-write what OP herself has said.

And with regards the mould, OP has been there 4 fucking years.. they have BOTH let that bathroom get into a disgusting state, coming on here to say she wants a new bathroom after leaving the last one to rot would not go down well with me either to be fair.

I think OP should leave personally, she isn't going to get what she wants out of this relationship because he seems to have his head screwed on.

jdb9803 · 18/09/2026 05:28

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/09/2026 20:38

You make it sound like paying half the bills is unreasonable.

No, but doing all the cooking and cleaning is - and may be why he doesn't want her moving out - she's his free housekeeper

Horses7 · 17/09/2026 21:26

Wild horses wouldn’t keep me in this pretty awful relationship.
His actions speak louder than words plus if he dumped you tomorrow you’d have no claim or protection.
Leave on your own terms while you’ve still got some savings left.

JLou08 · 17/09/2026 21:14

You've been living in his house rent and mortgage free for 5 years. I don't think he owes you any security. Those rent free 5 years should have been an opportunity for you to build up some savings or assets of your own.
If you came here saying my boyfriend has been living in my house for 5 years, he hasn't had to pay rent as my mortgage is paid, just his 50/50 split of the bills but now he's worried he has no stake in the home I bought and paid off before I met him so he wants to marry the comments would be absolutely slating him. Cocklodger they'd be saying. Don't marry him, protect yourself they'd say.
The only time someone should have a stake in a house they didn't pay for is if they lost income to care for joint children.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/09/2026 20:38

jdb9803 · 17/09/2026 19:38

As well as paying half the bills, are you doing all the cooking and cleaning?

You make it sound like paying half the bills is unreasonable.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 17/09/2026 20:37

phoenix098 · 17/09/2026 19:48

Kind, caring, lovely to me.

But he yells at you when you suggest doing up the bathroom? Ok...

Well I think it depends how this goes. If the op has done nothing to help keep it clean and now expects him to fork out for a new bathroom and won’t stop going on about it then I can see why he yelled. If she just reasonably mentions that the bathroom might need replacing and he instantly starts yelling then that’s not nice

phoenix098 · 17/09/2026 19:48

Kind, caring, lovely to me.

But he yells at you when you suggest doing up the bathroom? Ok...