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To think this was selfish?

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Fancycrab · 15/09/2026 08:46

I’m not still ruminating on this years later! Just curious really. A friend & I got talking about Brexit recently and I mentioned that my mum and her husband had voted leave, rolling my eyes as usual. Myself and everyone I knew were firmly remain, especially because my partner was from an EU country and I was pregnant with his child at the time of Brexit. My friend mentioned she thought it was “incredibly selfish” of my mum to have voted leave when her daughter was about to have a baby with someone who may not be allowed to stay in the country. I’d never really considered this. I’m used to my mum doing everything her latest husband tells her to and taking on all their opinions and values as her own, so it was down to this she voted leave. I doubt she would have if she’d been with the previous husband. Would you find this selfish if it were you?

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Charalam · 17/09/2026 04:37

My Mum voted leave based on immigration and not wanting the ‘EU telling us what to do’.
A few months later she moved to the EU country where I live.
A proper face palm.

Bjorkdidit · 17/09/2026 05:06

there's plenty of evidence to say that the Referendum would have gone the other way if 1) voters took it more seriously and 2) voters understood what it would mean for them

This is the infuriating part as the vote was so close. It wouldn't have taken many of the 52% to have voted Remain for us to have stayed in the EU.

Eg those who retired to Spain declaring on BBC Breakfast TV that they were voting leave 'because there's too much immigration these days' only to find that it then became more difficult or impossible for them to continue living in Spain because, newsflash, ending freedom of movement works both ways.

Also all the farmers and fishermen who voted leave who were then surprised it meant they would no longer receive EU subsidies. No shit Sherlock.

Bjorkdidit · 17/09/2026 05:06

there's plenty of evidence to say that the Referendum would have gone the other way if 1) voters took it more seriously and 2) voters understood what it would mean for them

This is the infuriating part as the vote was so close. It wouldn't have taken many of the 52% to have voted Remain for us to have stayed in the EU.

Eg those who retired to Spain declaring on BBC Breakfast TV that they were voting leave 'because there's too much immigration these days' only to find that it then became more difficult or impossible for them to continue living in Spain because, newsflash, ending freedom of movement works both ways.

Also all the farmers and fishermen who voted leave who were then surprised it meant they would no longer receive EU subsidies. No shit Sherlock.

Passementerie · 17/09/2026 06:31

Brummyhelpplease · 15/09/2026 19:29

My Irish family who all moved to England as kids all voted to leave. I never considered how utterly stupid they all were till then. Of course they have never seen themselves as immigrants despite overwhelmingly telling everyone with ears they are Irish, born there, raised there for many years. I was actually surprised they were able to vote anyway.

Everytime I hear a MAGA supporter and think of brexiteers.

Irish and Commonwealth citizens have full voting rights in UK general and local elections and referenda.

Loveofeclairs · 17/09/2026 07:42

Passementerie · 17/09/2026 06:31

Irish and Commonwealth citizens have full voting rights in UK general and local elections and referenda.

In this particular one I’m not sure they should have had. They excluded British citizens living abroad from the vote, so why not commonwealth citizens? I think many of them voted leave out of spite because it was much more difficult for them and their families to come to the UK than for EU citizens, but didn’t think about the bigger picture.

It was all a shambles anyway.

TishToshByGosh · 17/09/2026 07:53

I voted remain, but I don't think your mum was obliged to consider anyone else in her voting choices. Your choice of partner and decision to have a baby was nothing to do with her.

CurlewKate · 17/09/2026 07:56

It’s a case of “I didn’t think the face eating leopard would eat MY face!” There’s a lot of it about.

Mamma283839 · 17/09/2026 07:59

BriarTime · 15/09/2026 09:29

I’ve always been slightly confused by this argument. What is it these people thought they were voting for, then?

My FIL said something about voting for Brexit because of farmers. My friend voted for Brexit because of a single human rights case and she said we had to get the UK out - not clear what good Brexit did for either. But I think some people had some highly specific reasons and didn’t think or didn’t care about it the impact on their children and grandchildren.

Passementerie · 17/09/2026 08:02

Loveofeclairs · 17/09/2026 07:42

In this particular one I’m not sure they should have had. They excluded British citizens living abroad from the vote, so why not commonwealth citizens? I think many of them voted leave out of spite because it was much more difficult for them and their families to come to the UK than for EU citizens, but didn’t think about the bigger picture.

It was all a shambles anyway.

I don’t know a single Irish citizen who voted for Leave. Irish people are far more pro-EU in general.

Pengwuin · 17/09/2026 08:21

Oh I have similar feelings. My Mum voted for Brexit and promptly moved to France before the rules kicked in…

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/09/2026 09:31

Charalam · 17/09/2026 04:37

My Mum voted leave based on immigration and not wanting the ‘EU telling us what to do’.
A few months later she moved to the EU country where I live.
A proper face palm.

My BIL’s mother used to live most of the year in Spain. She and her entire circle of moronic expat cronies voted leave, and have subsequently been surprised and upset by how much it’s curtailed their freedom of movement and detrimentally affected their lives, from cost of living to medical insurance.

It’s almost like they didn’t think it through …

Brummyhelpplease · 17/09/2026 10:00

Passementerie · 17/09/2026 08:02

I don’t know a single Irish citizen who voted for Leave. Irish people are far more pro-EU in general.

Most of us are yes but specifically my own family that moved to the uk when they were kids and out of about 9 of them I know 7 voted leave. Their husbands/wives/adult kids voted the same was as them. Baffled me then, baffles me now.

Brummyhelpplease · 17/09/2026 10:01

EnjoythemoneyJane · 17/09/2026 09:31

My BIL’s mother used to live most of the year in Spain. She and her entire circle of moronic expat cronies voted leave, and have subsequently been surprised and upset by how much it’s curtailed their freedom of movement and detrimentally affected their lives, from cost of living to medical insurance.

It’s almost like they didn’t think it through …

They aren't ex pats, they are quite simply immigrants that is what makes it all so laughable.

Loveofeclairs · 17/09/2026 16:35

Passementerie · 17/09/2026 08:02

I don’t know a single Irish citizen who voted for Leave. Irish people are far more pro-EU in general.

Agreed, that’s why I only mentioned Commonwealth citizens and not the Irish.

From my experience they either didn’t care enough to vote so didn’t bother, or voted leave because they didn’t like that EU citizens had freedom of movement in the UK.

Fancycrab · 19/09/2026 08:38

Hildegard25 · 16/09/2026 19:53

So every Brexit voter did not think it through.
Every remain voter did.
Give over.
There was a referendum and the votes decided it.

I am of the opinion that if the vote to remain had been successful then people would now be moaning that the people who voted to remain had not thought it through and were massively irresponsible for us still being in the EU with all its silly rules and regulations.

Obviously there was a lot more responsibility on the people voting leave to educate themselves about the consequences than there was for those voting remain! Because they were the ones voting for the huge change, not the remain voters who were just voting to keep things as they were…

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