AIBU to think of course all the anti-trans posts on this website and others are leading to real life harm?

Report just today about how having single sex spaces is much safer for women - all of the rapes , sexual assaults and voyerism reported in Scottish swimming pools came from those with “changing villages” rather than single sex spaces

yes - even with single sex spaces women are not totally safe- but they are significantly safer than in mixed sexual spaces

of course OP couldn’t care less how many more women might be harmed by mixed sexual spaces spaces - op just came on her to tell us off becuase men beat up men

OP yes this incident was definitely caused by mumsnet, and also Putin invaded Ukraine after reading an MN thread on city breaks in Kiev.

Very well said. Your daughter is lucky to have you.

I don't really understand your post- I don't think I said anywhere that it's rational behaviour, I think I said the aggressor was an idiot?
You sound quite aggressive yourself!

It’s tiring having to deal with entitled males
like you on a female forum.

I missed the bit where the abusive men said they were representing mumsnet, why has the op just made that bit up?

Quite.

Everyone knows what sex they are. Men need to stay out of women’s spaces and services as the law dictates.

Do you think that determining people's access to protected spaces and activities based on what they wear is rational behaviour?

Educate yourself is so overused it's a cheapened cliche, same as the word Bigot. Just be honest, educate yourself simply means "you have a different opinion to me so therefore you are wrong" and Bigot now means "I don't like that I can't intimidate women into silence so I'll resort to name calling in the manner of an infant school playground. I have a young daughter and let me educate you - no man, wether in a dress or not will shame her into silence so he can trample over her views and opinions for as long as I have breath in my body.

BUT Was is MN women doing the beating ? Or harnessing them?

stop blaming us for someone else’s actions -

So now you’re conflating MN posters with this thug. 🙄

Your misogyny is off the charts

You are misrepresenting what posters are saying and then pointing to it as evidence. Who has said "they are all disgusting aggressive perverts"?

Men were harassing a man. Can you see why we don't want men in female spaces yet, more importantly can you see how we are not responsible for their actions?

Don't women routinely get harassed for the clothes they wear?

And what about the over-zealous policing of school uniforms?

It doesn’t matter if people can or can’t tell

men are less able to tell than women apparently

it’s irrelevant

I think you mean if people truly stopped gender stereotyping. If only as much effort were made to reduce that. Then we wouldn't have people saying they must be a woman because they want to wear a dress.

Or school-girls saying they don't want to wear trousers to school because it's too boyish (where on earth did they get that idea from).

OP i will give you a suggestion.

if transgender people did not go out of their way to claim the sex based rights of others then nobody on MN would spend much time discussing them.

so we could argue the blame lays with the transgender community?

I don’t think it does btw - I think it belongs with the people doing the beating myself

I'm not so sure, I know some 'butch' looking women and they still have hips and female mannerisms, small hands, usually short in height etc.

Men dressed as women though, never pass which is fine they can dress as they wish but as we keep on saying just don't use women's facilities

Gosh. 'Demented' behaviour now, as well as 'rabid' 'hateful' and 'transphobic'
See where the vitriol is coming from? As usual?

Haven't seen anyone hating transpeople. Transphobia should be reported- MN are very swift with the deletion button, rightly so.

Again it seems women are responsible for everything men do (and think, probably) because some idiot abuses a trans identifying person.

By using my eyeballs. We all know what sex other people are. The odd transman convinces right up until they speak and then I use my ears.

Yes, men are the problem, including ones who identify as women. You appear not to have grasped what it is that “Mumsnetters” (not you then?) actually think.

The pp want not going to confront any one. I really dislike it when people try to make something different to what is said

and I suspect she would judge all people dressing inappropriately but I don’t see why we should make a list of all people we might judge just to prove that our judgement is more to do with the silly clothing that the sex of person who is wearing it

Holding women responsible for male on male violence is pretty low OP, don’t you think?