AIBU to think of course all the anti-trans posts on this website and others are leading to real life harm?

She got banned for being cheeky on a Stella Creasy webchat, not for any of the things the poster claims.

What, on here?

Interesting context, thanks

I have seen posts that have said trans people are all pedophiles and the gender ideology is a conspiracy to make sex between adults and children legal. I have seen posts mocking and celebrating when a trans child is murdered with comments that most certainly would have caused harm. I have seen posts that have called for mass detention and imprisonment in camps of trans people. I have seen posts that advise child abuse when a child is questioning their identity instead of educating them.

So am American wrote a book and included KJK to look like they understand the whole world but actually it has fuck all relevance to British politics?

Is that right?

What posts do you think are causing real harm?

Can you be specific?

Not at all. The “far right” is part of the title of the book I read:
“Pink Pilled: Women and the Far Right by Lois Shearing”

She got banned for being cheeky on a Stella Creasy webchat, not for any of the things the poster claims.

It has a heavy US focus, but they did mention a few British women like Kellie Jay Keen and how in seeking support for single sex spaces, the far right radicalised her into Islamaphobia and then into trad wife territory where she has partnered with forced birth organisations and publicly stated she is willing to give up abortion rights. It also morphed her activism into the more patriarchal segregation of the sexes, biological essentialism that says women are inferior, weaker and need to be protected and all that entails.

I mean she was banned from MN for good reason. Those posts were doing harm.

KJK was banned from MN years ago.

At least five. She was before my time.

And there’s no evidence about what she was actually posting on, on MN at that time. Or not that I know of.

It has a heavy US focus, but they did mention a few British women like Kellie Jay Keen and how in seeking support for single sex spaces, the far right radicalised her into Islamaphobia and then into trad wife territory where she has partnered with forced birth organisations and publicly stated she is willing to give up abortion rights. It also morphed her activism into the more patriarchal segregation of the sexes, biological essentialism that says women are inferior, weaker and need to be protected and all that entails.

I mean she was banned from MN for good reason. Those posts were doing harm.

Some women have been and are. The book makes a compelling case about the line between activism and extremism.

It has a heavy US focus, but they did mention a few British women like Kellie Jay Keen and how in seeking support for single sex spaces, the far right radicalised her into Islamaphobia and then into trad wife territory where she has partnered with forced birth organisations and publicly stated she is willing to give up abortion rights. It also morphed her activism into the more patriarchal segregation of the sexes, biological essentialism that says women are inferior, weaker and need to be protected and all that entails.

I mean she was banned from MN for good reason. Those posts were doing harm.

It has a heavy US focus, but they did mention a few British women like Kellie Jay Keen and how in seeking support for single sex spaces, the far right radicalised her into Islamaphobia and then into trad wife territory where she has partnered with forced birth organisations and publicly stated she is willing to give up abortion rights. It also morphed her activism into the more patriarchal segregation of the sexes, biological essentialism that says women are inferior, weaker and need to be protected and all that entails.

I mean she was banned from MN for good reason. Those posts were doing harm.

Life is short, I’ve got plenty of books to read, thanks. Would you read my book about naive left leaning women and how they enable abusive men?

Which women are they then?

The book I recommended researched the radicalisation process of women into the far right and the trans debate is one of several pipelines by which they do it. It might be useful for everyone to read to guard against those who have been radicalised and to protect against it.

What ‘far right’ bandwagon? If there is one, I’m not on it.

I am not here to debate. I said that some posts on here have gone well beyond advocating for women’s rights and I agree they are causing real harm to others.

Then I recommended a book which researched the radicalisation process of women into the far right and the trans debate is one of several pipelines by which they do it to show why some posts on MN have gone too far and ended up deleted.

What ‘far right’ bandwagon? If there is one, I’m not on it.

I am not here to debate. I said that some posts on here have gone well beyond advocating for women’s rights and I agree they are causing real harm to others.

Then I recommended a book which researched the radicalisation process of women into the far right and the trans debate is one of several pipelines by which they do it to show why some posts on MN have gone too far and ended up deleted.

Why are these mysterious far right women relevant to women speaking up for sex based rights on Mumsnet?

I never cease to be amazed by the number of women who are more than prepared to give away womens' rights; why?

OP tends to start many a post with insults- the snarky comment re day jobs???
Retired? Stay at home mums? Recently experienced redundancy?
FWR (and other boards) consists of a variety of posters in different circumstances. And those with the big fat cheques from the Far Right of course 🙄

Have there been any comments from the anti-womens' rights posters, regarding the 'terf is a slur' site? Or the vitriol on Reddit? Or the threats ? Or shouting down with loud hailers when women meet?

I haven't seen the aforementioned video, that sparked this thread.
Sounds unpleasant but it's not the fault of women!

You know @AmberTigerEyes instead of jumping on the 'far right' 'bandwagon why not try and debate?

See if you can answer 2 simple questions for starters

1. Why should women accept men in their single sex areas because men are scared of men?
2. Why can't men just wear dresses if they so wish but accept it is impossible to change sex?