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AIBU to move our family from London to my home town?

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CoatsforGoats · 14/09/2026 14:19

AIBU to move our family out of London to live in the town I grew up in? 3 children under 5 at the moment, so possibly imagining an easier life where getting the buggy around isn't as much of a daily challenge. We have been thinking about it as a family for a couple of years and feel completely stuck.

Points to note

  • DH job is firmly London so he would be away part of the week (thinking Mon - Wed or Thursday as a pattern)
  • We have a lovely little house in London BUT I am aware of the pollution here, and even walking to the park from our house involves a lot of passing traffic. Middle DC coughs at the fumes and it breaks my heart.
  • The town I am from is nice and interesting (altho I haven't lived there in years) plenty going on in terms of culture and sport, good access to mountains and excellent walking/forest nearby.
  • We would be able to buy a bigger house and have a much bigger garden if we left.
  • We don't really have family here or in the town. Some family are overseas and location doesn't make a huge difference either way.

I guess part of it is that neither of us grew up in London, so that feels like an unknown quantity for us, and we are a bit worried about how a London upbringing might be for older primary aged children and into teen years.

OP posts:
AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 09:45

Needmorelego · 16/09/2026 09:41

The thing is....the OP (who we seem to have scared away) is moving with small children.
She's going to want primary schools, a decent park, a local Brownie pack, a library and a decent size supermarket.
She's not really going to be that interested in art galleries on a Tuesday night.

I don't have kids, but I have friends who do/did and still went out in the evenings sometimes, including to art galleries.
But in any case, I was talking in more general terms, joining in the part of the thread that's turned into a wider discussion about towns/cities/rural and their pros and cons.

Timeforachange26 · 16/09/2026 09:44

Laundrybasketfull · 16/09/2026 09:10

Let me assure you I am in no way rich and last weekend I went to the theatre (cheap tickets via Twickets), went for a sauna (everywhere in London and affordable) and went to the Tate Modern. I don't do this every weekend but the idea that you can only enjoy London if you're super rich is just not true.

Thats not a random Tuesday night. And I bet even your " cheap " tickets and sauns would've taken a good portion of say a £50 entertainment budget ( which is what my friend on London has for a month)

Needmorelego · 16/09/2026 09:41

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 09:14

I never said events don't happen on weeknights elsewhere. That's what happens when you take a partial comment out of context.
Point is (as I keep saying), the variety and quantity of things happening. Sure, other towns and smaller places will have things happening on a weekday night, just not so many weekday nights and not so many across a year.
There simply is more stuff and more of a range in a big city.

The thing is....the OP (who we seem to have scared away) is moving with small children.
She's going to want primary schools, a decent park, a local Brownie pack, a library and a decent size supermarket.
She's not really going to be that interested in art galleries on a Tuesday night.

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 09:14

Needmorelego · 16/09/2026 09:12

Why do you think events don't happen on a Tuesday night out in the towns?
People who live in towns aren't werewolves who have a curfew 😂

I never said events don't happen on weeknights elsewhere. That's what happens when you take a partial comment out of context.
Point is (as I keep saying), the variety and quantity of things happening. Sure, other towns and smaller places will have things happening on a weekday night, just not so many weekday nights and not so many across a year.
There simply is more stuff and more of a range in a big city.

Needmorelego · 16/09/2026 09:12

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 08:31

Culture is everywhere, yes, but in a big city there is just more. More quantity and more variety. Something to do on a Tuesday night as well as a Saturday matinee.

Why do you think events don't happen on a Tuesday night out in the towns?
People who live in towns aren't werewolves who have a curfew 😂

Laundrybasketfull · 16/09/2026 09:10

Timeforachange26 · 16/09/2026 08:46

Lol do you really just pop to the theater on a Tuesday night?? I'm amazed how much money and time all you " normal" londoners seem to have ( I certainly didn't when I lived there) as sky high housing costs etc

I still believe it's only a wonderful place for the rich

Bit like hong Kong, I like it there very much but oh the fabulous life you could have there if you were dripping with money

Let me assure you I am in no way rich and last weekend I went to the theatre (cheap tickets via Twickets), went for a sauna (everywhere in London and affordable) and went to the Tate Modern. I don't do this every weekend but the idea that you can only enjoy London if you're super rich is just not true.

Needmorelego · 16/09/2026 09:01

Flamingojune · 16/09/2026 08:42

The theatres and public transport hubs are next to each other in central london.

Yes but you still need to get to central from where you live 😂
I live in Zone 3.

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 08:53

Timeforachange26 · 16/09/2026 08:46

Lol do you really just pop to the theater on a Tuesday night?? I'm amazed how much money and time all you " normal" londoners seem to have ( I certainly didn't when I lived there) as sky high housing costs etc

I still believe it's only a wonderful place for the rich

Bit like hong Kong, I like it there very much but oh the fabulous life you could have there if you were dripping with money

Well, I didn't say theatre.
However, I do have friends who work in theatre and are kind enough to offer me free or discounted tickets sometimes. (another thing I find massively different, and love, in a big city is the range of people you get to know and become friends with).
But also there are, for example, galleries that have late nights, on various nights of the week, with free permanent collections and/or special exhibitions, events, workshops etc.
Cheap or free live music in pubs and small venues.
Outdoor light/art shows in the darker months.
And for special things like a big-name gig or a play somewhere expensive, I save up or look for money-off vouchers. I daresay a lot of people do the same.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about housing costs and anyone daring to have more than two ha'pennies to scrape together.

Timeforachange26 · 16/09/2026 08:46

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 08:31

Culture is everywhere, yes, but in a big city there is just more. More quantity and more variety. Something to do on a Tuesday night as well as a Saturday matinee.

Lol do you really just pop to the theater on a Tuesday night?? I'm amazed how much money and time all you " normal" londoners seem to have ( I certainly didn't when I lived there) as sky high housing costs etc

I still believe it's only a wonderful place for the rich

Bit like hong Kong, I like it there very much but oh the fabulous life you could have there if you were dripping with money

Flamingojune · 16/09/2026 08:42

Needmorelego · 15/09/2026 18:12

I don't live in a town.
I am from a town originally but now live in London.
I have lost track of the conversation somewhere but I think what I was trying to say is many people (on Mumsnet it seems) say that living in "a town" must be sooooo awful because there's no culture and living in London is better because it's all on your doorstep.
But it isn't really.
As I said it takes 25 minutes from our zone 3 stop to get to central London and that's just too the railway station. To get to a theatre or wherever is another journey.
Even if we go to one of the regional theatres (ie Wimbledon, Richmond etc) where we are means it can be a hour on public transport to get there.
However.....(are you still following?) my hometown is a 25 minute train ride to a nearby city. Then a 5/10 minutes walk to a theatre - which is a regional touring one that shows exactly the same shows that are shown in Wimbledon or Bromley or Richmond.
Exactly the same !!
So why is it better to raise children in London vs a random town when (shock horror) London isn't the only place with culture?
Sorry.... that's a bit rambling.

The theatres and public transport hubs are next to each other in central london.

AlwaysExtraHot · 16/09/2026 08:31

Needmorelego · 15/09/2026 20:12

We like musicals (seen Rocky Horror 3 times 🤩)
I have a friend who is involved with a theatre that does interesting alternative type stuff....in his little Midlands town.
My home town has a small community theatre. They do a lot of things like open-mike stand up comedy.
A relative in a different small Midlands town performed in a professional panto (with a semi-celeb as the star).
This is my whole point....you do not have to live in London to access "culture".
It's everywhere.

Culture is everywhere, yes, but in a big city there is just more. More quantity and more variety. Something to do on a Tuesday night as well as a Saturday matinee.

Needmorelego · 15/09/2026 20:12

Arran2024 · 15/09/2026 19:42

Tbf you get a very limited type of culture at the Richmond and Wimbledon theatres. My nephew is a drama student and this isn't the sort of thing he is interested in - he is watching more experimental stuff in Shoreditch. And I suspect it would be harder to find that in most towns.

We like musicals (seen Rocky Horror 3 times 🤩)
I have a friend who is involved with a theatre that does interesting alternative type stuff....in his little Midlands town.
My home town has a small community theatre. They do a lot of things like open-mike stand up comedy.
A relative in a different small Midlands town performed in a professional panto (with a semi-celeb as the star).
This is my whole point....you do not have to live in London to access "culture".
It's everywhere.

Arran2024 · 15/09/2026 19:42

Needmorelego · 15/09/2026 18:12

I don't live in a town.
I am from a town originally but now live in London.
I have lost track of the conversation somewhere but I think what I was trying to say is many people (on Mumsnet it seems) say that living in "a town" must be sooooo awful because there's no culture and living in London is better because it's all on your doorstep.
But it isn't really.
As I said it takes 25 minutes from our zone 3 stop to get to central London and that's just too the railway station. To get to a theatre or wherever is another journey.
Even if we go to one of the regional theatres (ie Wimbledon, Richmond etc) where we are means it can be a hour on public transport to get there.
However.....(are you still following?) my hometown is a 25 minute train ride to a nearby city. Then a 5/10 minutes walk to a theatre - which is a regional touring one that shows exactly the same shows that are shown in Wimbledon or Bromley or Richmond.
Exactly the same !!
So why is it better to raise children in London vs a random town when (shock horror) London isn't the only place with culture?
Sorry.... that's a bit rambling.

Tbf you get a very limited type of culture at the Richmond and Wimbledon theatres. My nephew is a drama student and this isn't the sort of thing he is interested in - he is watching more experimental stuff in Shoreditch. And I suspect it would be harder to find that in most towns.

Needmorelego · 15/09/2026 18:12

Coffeewinecake · 15/09/2026 17:33

You didn’t mention your daughter was neurodivergent in previous original post. I had already caveated all this previously.

Of course Richmond is in London. I don’t think anyone who knows London is only talking about zone 1. That’s why many are suggesting to OP that even moving to zone 3 or 4 can make a big difference and be the best of both worlds. Even moving to a different part of zone 2 can have the same effect.

No idea which town you live in so can’t comment.

I don't live in a town.
I am from a town originally but now live in London.
I have lost track of the conversation somewhere but I think what I was trying to say is many people (on Mumsnet it seems) say that living in "a town" must be sooooo awful because there's no culture and living in London is better because it's all on your doorstep.
But it isn't really.
As I said it takes 25 minutes from our zone 3 stop to get to central London and that's just too the railway station. To get to a theatre or wherever is another journey.
Even if we go to one of the regional theatres (ie Wimbledon, Richmond etc) where we are means it can be a hour on public transport to get there.
However.....(are you still following?) my hometown is a 25 minute train ride to a nearby city. Then a 5/10 minutes walk to a theatre - which is a regional touring one that shows exactly the same shows that are shown in Wimbledon or Bromley or Richmond.
Exactly the same !!
So why is it better to raise children in London vs a random town when (shock horror) London isn't the only place with culture?
Sorry.... that's a bit rambling.

Coffeewinecake · 15/09/2026 17:33

Needmorelego · 15/09/2026 13:42

@Coffeewinecake I realised I had a typo and it should have said "That's more important" not "there's" - as in it's more important to the OP whether or not she is happy to essentially be a solo parent for half the week than worrying too much about what cultural facilities are on offer.
For your information if you are interested my daughter is autistic so she does view the world slightly differently.
But she very much is over central London.
Too busy, too loud and public transport might be cheap but sometimes it's soooooooo slow.
She's been to the Science Museum etc approximately 453 times in her 18 years so she hasn't missed out 😂
She does love the theatre but we often to go to Richmond or Wimbledon which is obviously still London but it's touring shows so we could go and see them out in one of those culture-less non London towns/cities and it would be exactly the same show 😂
By the way the train I mentioned from my old hometown to the next city isn't a "fast" train - just a train. A regular ordinary train. The last train back is at almost 11pm. There's also a bus as an alternative which the last one is also around 11pm.
It might be a shock but not all public transport outside of London is terrible 😂

You didn’t mention your daughter was neurodivergent in previous original post. I had already caveated all this previously.

Of course Richmond is in London. I don’t think anyone who knows London is only talking about zone 1. That’s why many are suggesting to OP that even moving to zone 3 or 4 can make a big difference and be the best of both worlds. Even moving to a different part of zone 2 can have the same effect.

No idea which town you live in so can’t comment.

Arran2024 · 15/09/2026 17:29

Timeforachange26 · 15/09/2026 13:56

You are the one who said look at stats. I previously posted crime in general stats also

We have enough Londoners moved here unfortunately

I said look at the stats to show that London is not as dangerous as some posters are making out. I didn't expect anyone to think the figures would be comparable with whatever provincial town you live in. Being one of the world's major cities, of course it will have more crime - but given all that, the crime rates are not so huge. They are lower than eg greater Manchester. And it varies by LA to LA. My LA has a rate 23% lower than the London average.

Flamingojune · 15/09/2026 17:21

Spotthetooth · 15/09/2026 12:58

I gave my experience raising children in a small seaside town and how I believe it to be superior to raising them in a city especially London (based on working in a shop with branches across the country and having colleagues who have moved out of London specifically because they had children and dont want them around that)

My experience and opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s on this thread, you don’t have to like it.

So this 'known reality of london' is not your know reality?

Smokeywater · 15/09/2026 16:48

Schools - that’s the main thing

Minasama · 15/09/2026 16:37

A mid - point could be to move to somewhere like Finchley or Maze Hill - so easy to get back into town but more suburban for the kids? Or a nice commuter town? (Though these can be quite boring because everything is focused around London). I wouldn’t have hubs away for part of the week, that will impact the closeness of your relationship and make it hard for you to get back into work/change job.

Minasama · 15/09/2026 16:34

BigYellowBus · 14/09/2026 15:30

I doubt your kids will thank you for the change once they are looking for work.

This was something that I considered when moving away. I came to the conclusion that despite both me and DH having parents who lived in a commuter town near London, we’d neither of us ever gone back home to live or made use of that fact, so it would be an odd thing to base the decision of where to live as a family on.

Laundrybasketfull · 15/09/2026 14:47

I grew up in Somerset in a lovely quiet village, lots of green fields, beautiful scenery and I loved it until I got to my teens and then was bored stupid. I got up to much worse than my kids ever do. London isn't perfect, but where is? There were defintely drugs and teens we knew not to go near within a couple of miles of where I was but I think that's everywhere in the UK. My best friend lives in the Cotswolds and her kids are always at illegal raves doing god knows what (much more in line with what I did growing up ;). Not saying none of this happens in London (or anywhere in Uk) but not worth discounting staying here because of that.

Also, very aware it doesn't need to be country or city, lots of brilliant small towns and smaller cities to think about.

Much like those who would never move to London, I would now never want to want to move anywhere else, but that doesn't mean it's right for everyone.

Spotthetooth · 15/09/2026 14:34

Spotthetooth · 15/09/2026 12:58

I gave my experience raising children in a small seaside town and how I believe it to be superior to raising them in a city especially London (based on working in a shop with branches across the country and having colleagues who have moved out of London specifically because they had children and dont want them around that)

My experience and opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s on this thread, you don’t have to like it.

Oh I DID say raising not raised anyway

Spotthetooth · 15/09/2026 14:33

Thinkofnewthings · 15/09/2026 14:20

You’re only in your 20s. How can you have “raised” your children at all? And many seaside towns are notorious for being druggy, deprived landscapes with low educational standards and aspirations, to equal some of your hyperbole.

I had my eldest at 16 I’m in my mid/late twenties now. Still maybe I should of said “raising” not raised, sure.

There are hundreds of seaside towns and only one London. I know you’ll say London has loads of nice parts but I’m hundreds of miles from Blackpool and someone living in nice Clapham Common is only a couple of miles from a really rough part of London.

Earlier this year loads of thugs stormed Clapham Common and looted all the shops

Laundrybasketfull · 15/09/2026 14:26

OP, I was you many years ago, I lived in Stoke Newington and loved it but after a couple more children we needed to move, I have family in SW England, and I love it there but decided it wasn't quite right to us, so I moved to SE London in Zone 3 (which at that time had overground and felt like the middle of nowhere) with the agreement if that didn't work we'd move to SW. I won't say it was instant because it took a while to get used to it, but I love it now and my children have both had great educations, experiences, friends and my son is now at an amazing 6th form (in North London). I did used to worry about all the things you mentioned but I am so glad we stuck around. Might be worth mentioning my son is asthmatic and we've never had any problems with the pollution.

Thinkofnewthings · 15/09/2026 14:20

Spotthetooth · 15/09/2026 12:58

I gave my experience raising children in a small seaside town and how I believe it to be superior to raising them in a city especially London (based on working in a shop with branches across the country and having colleagues who have moved out of London specifically because they had children and dont want them around that)

My experience and opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s on this thread, you don’t have to like it.

You’re only in your 20s. How can you have “raised” your children at all? And many seaside towns are notorious for being druggy, deprived landscapes with low educational standards and aspirations, to equal some of your hyperbole.

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