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I should always be welcome in DP's home, regardless of who's there - AIBU?

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SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:24

I will try to not make this too long, but also not drip feed. Please help me distinguish reasonable actions from my own emotions because, to put it simply, everything's at stake.

Been with DP for 4 years and, on the whole, it's a very loving relationship. He's good to me and my kids, fun to be around, reliable and helpful, contributes financially to my household. We don't live together but spend much (most) of the week at each other's homes (although more mine than his), as well as every weekend and holidays.

At the same time, it's been a turbulent relationship (I know that sounds odd after what I've just said, but it can be both good and turbulent, as it's about very defined areas of problems, i.e. one problem = his adult daughters). I have a good relationship with his youngest DD (early 20s) who lives with him, but his eldest (30) who lives away doesn't want to have anything to do with me. At times she's been really rude to me and various members of my family. Most recent example is a message she sent where she was incredibly rude and disrespectful (before blocking me, so I couldn't even respond - a coward's move, IMO). My DP did reprimand her, sort of, via text and heavily prompted by me, which I hate as I don't think it's my job to stand up for this relationship and my dignity, but his. I think left to his own devices he would just always avoid all conflict. He is very scared she will cut him out of his life.

I feel I've come to the end with being able to accept that he doesn't stand up for me of his own free will, and that when he sees her he doesn't feel a shred of annoyance, resentment or anger about the awful ways she's behaved. I understand we all love our children, and I understand he's scared of losing her. I'm not even saying that he should necessarily show her that he's upset about her bad behaviour, but simply that he should feel something for me, the way she's treated me (in other words, show ME - show some kind of outrage, empathy, solidarity). If someone mistreated my DP, even if it was my kids, I'd be pretty livid. I know people are different, and I know men and women can be very different in their emotional processing. But still. How can it be true that he loves me, but that he doesn't feel anything when someone repeatedly hurts me?

The other thing is that, when she comes to stay at his, although at all other times I'm (more than) welcome in his house, there's an expectation that I won't come while she's there. Now, I get that it's her former home, she still has a room there. But, at all other times, I have complete access to his house, not just that but he's even repeatedly hosted friends of mine for long weekends (because the house is big and has spare rooms and bathrooms), but when his daughter is there, the quiet understanding is that I'm not welcome. But, just as an example, we're spending Xmas at mine this year and he of course invited her too. I knew she would say no, but that's not the point. So, she's meant to be always welcome in my house, but I'm not only not welcome at family events, but also my own partner's house when she's there? It strikes me as very unfair and unreasonable.

I've been living with this for a while, and this morning I woke up and thought, I don't know if I love him any more. This has seriously eroded my feelings for him. It's a huge shame, as four years is a lot of time together and he's amazing in many ways and I love(d) him possibly more than any other man before him, including my ex husband. But this continued unfairness and indignity has eaten away at the core of our connection.

YABU - this is a reasonable compromise in a complicated family dynamic because parents will always put their children first, even when they're nearly 30, and most women would find a way to live with this, even if it hurts them

YANBU - this is a major breach of love and loyalty towards me on his side, and if he's not prepared to let her know that his home is always open to me, I should walk away even after 4 years together.

Can I just say (if you're read this far), if you're not divorced and in a relationship with a man who's got adult kids, you won't have any kind of realistic perspective on a situation of this kind. I'm looking for some thoughtful and considered responses based in first hand experience of these kinds of dynamics - thank you (and I'll disregard any responses that are rude or unkind, as often I see "pile ons" when it comes to these kinds of questions)

OP posts:
Switchnow · 15/09/2026 17:15

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 15:50

Actually what OP said was An honest question: would you have had the expectation that I have (I've not said this out loud, but deep down this is what I'm feeling), which is that if she doesn't want to "allow me" in his house - which isn't hers to allow or not allow anything - then they should be meeting in a restaurant for lunch? It's not necessarily that I want to be at the house when she's there (in fact I don't - I've no desire to see her) but I struggle very much with this idea that, on the whim of someone who doesn't even live there, my kids and I aren't welcome while she's there (but the next day we're back there for dinner?!) It's a question of principle.*

She was posing a question and giving her reasoning, not suggesting that this is actually what he should do. She was exploring the principle that the decision to ‘allow’ her in his house was her partners’, not his DD’s to dictate, and that if she wasn’t comfortable with OP being there, lunch in a restaurant was an alternative.

Similarly she hasn’t suggested that DD should stay with her mum. She was answering a question from another poster and actually said I'm not literally saying I expect that, or would ask for that, or that he should necessarily do that. I was - I don't know - venting frustration, expressing a secret fantasy where she doesn't use his house any more and stays with her mother instead, as she's done many times over the last year.

Very different from considering actually asking for those things.

Yes I get it, she’s expressing her thoughts. But these thoughts reveal someone who isn’t thinking about building bridges and is thinking about the ways in which she could or even ought to be prioritised over the DD. Just as the DD’s actions as described indicate she is also thinking of her own wishes.

These things create an impression that neither of these adult women are keen to change the relationship in order to make things easier for their DF/DP.

Notsosweetcaroline · 15/09/2026 17:08

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 15:59

And I'll repeat the same... OP wrote 'recent example is a message she sent. Not she sent TO ME!

That could meant sent to her , although most people would indeed type a message she sent ME OR....she sent a message to her dad, he showed it to OP or OP read it on his phone, she is pissed off, she wants to respond directly, but the daughter has told her dad she was blocking her, or OP found out when she did type a response.

See, we don't know the destination of the message referred to. Got it?

Are you ok, maybe you need to take a break, I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone lash out and fight like it was their thread like this, you’re more upset than the op.

HowardsWahey · 15/09/2026 16:50

Can I just say (if you're read this far), if you're not divorced and in a relationship with a man who's got adult kids, you won't have any kind of realistic perspective on a situation of this kind. I'm looking for some thoughtful and considered responses based in first hand experience of these kinds of dynamics - thank you (and I'll disregard any responses that are rude or unkind, as often I see "pile ons" when it comes to these kinds of questions)

Team Daughter.

WearyAuldWumman · 15/09/2026 16:45

OldCrohn · 15/09/2026 12:48

That's not within his power. He can't dictate what two grown women should do. And him not being able to control his daughter shouldn't mean he has to forfeit his relationship with her. Especially for a live out girlfriend.

No, he certainly can't dictate, but I should have thought that there could be a conversation?

WearyAuldWumman · 15/09/2026 16:44

moderate · 15/09/2026 12:46

But if it were a son, mother, and male partner, you would surely balk at the suggestion?

Why would I?

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 16:09

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 15:40

Yep, a couple of occasions a year - one of which has involved DP inviting DD to OP’s home this Christmas. Do you really think it’s the sign of an equitable relationship when OP would have hosted DD in the knowledge that any Christmas at her DP’s means she will have to stay away ? I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t resent that !!
You can't compare Christmas with any random dates that are now agreed in advance, don't be ridiculous!

In any case it's a mute point if neither of them want to be in eachother's presence.

If both were prepared to make an effort for Xmas, then it's obvious that either OP accepts her in her house or Xmas takes place at his!

I suspect OP said she wanted to do it at her place this year hence his assuming both his daughters would be welcome.

Wonder what happened the last 3 xmases!

Whats a ‘mute point’ please ? My reading comprehension skills aren’t up to that !!

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 16:08

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 15:59

And I'll repeat the same... OP wrote 'recent example is a message she sent. Not she sent TO ME!

That could meant sent to her , although most people would indeed type a message she sent ME OR....she sent a message to her dad, he showed it to OP or OP read it on his phone, she is pissed off, she wants to respond directly, but the daughter has told her dad she was blocking her, or OP found out when she did type a response.

See, we don't know the destination of the message referred to. Got it?

Jesus that’s a reach. So DD sent an insulting message via her dad’s phone and then blocked OP ? The simple fact is that DD sent the message directly to OP and blocked her before she could reply. It’s clear. She even messaged you to answer your question and said the message had been sent directly to her.

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 15:59

And I'll repeat the same... OP wrote 'recent example is a message she sent. Not she sent TO ME!

That could meant sent to her , although most people would indeed type a message she sent ME OR....she sent a message to her dad, he showed it to OP or OP read it on his phone, she is pissed off, she wants to respond directly, but the daughter has told her dad she was blocking her, or OP found out when she did type a response.

See, we don't know the destination of the message referred to. Got it?

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 15:52

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That’s the second time you’ve accused me of that. I can only refer you back to my previous posts where I pulled you up on significant information - some of which OP actually directed at you - that you missed. If the only response you can give is to insult, then I won’t be engaging further.

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 15:50

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 14:56

OP has said here she thinks he should tell the DD she’s can’t stay at the house, or that she should stay with her DM. Doesn’t sound like she does want to get along at all!

Actually what OP said was An honest question: would you have had the expectation that I have (I've not said this out loud, but deep down this is what I'm feeling), which is that if she doesn't want to "allow me" in his house - which isn't hers to allow or not allow anything - then they should be meeting in a restaurant for lunch? It's not necessarily that I want to be at the house when she's there (in fact I don't - I've no desire to see her) but I struggle very much with this idea that, on the whim of someone who doesn't even live there, my kids and I aren't welcome while she's there (but the next day we're back there for dinner?!) It's a question of principle.*

She was posing a question and giving her reasoning, not suggesting that this is actually what he should do. She was exploring the principle that the decision to ‘allow’ her in his house was her partners’, not his DD’s to dictate, and that if she wasn’t comfortable with OP being there, lunch in a restaurant was an alternative.

Similarly she hasn’t suggested that DD should stay with her mum. She was answering a question from another poster and actually said I'm not literally saying I expect that, or would ask for that, or that he should necessarily do that. I was - I don't know - venting frustration, expressing a secret fantasy where she doesn't use his house any more and stays with her mother instead, as she's done many times over the last year.

Very different from considering actually asking for those things.

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 15:41

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Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 15:40

Yep, a couple of occasions a year - one of which has involved DP inviting DD to OP’s home this Christmas. Do you really think it’s the sign of an equitable relationship when OP would have hosted DD in the knowledge that any Christmas at her DP’s means she will have to stay away ? I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t resent that !!
You can't compare Christmas with any random dates that are now agreed in advance, don't be ridiculous!

In any case it's a mute point if neither of them want to be in eachother's presence.

If both were prepared to make an effort for Xmas, then it's obvious that either OP accepts her in her house or Xmas takes place at his!

I suspect OP said she wanted to do it at her place this year hence his assuming both his daughters would be welcome.

Wonder what happened the last 3 xmases!

TooMuchRedMaybe · 15/09/2026 15:37

Vivi0 · 15/09/2026 13:44

These are two adult women who do not get along.

I’m not sure that’s true.

There seems to be only one adult woman who doesn’t want to get along. It doesn’t seem to be the case that “they are both just as bad as each other”.

Well it is true in so far that they do not get along with each other. Why that is, we don't know. OP won't divulge what this recent message to her said, and there might be a reason for that. Neither of that is relevant though, nobody can make them get along. If her DP wants to have a close relationship with his DD and OP he will have to spend time with them separately. He cannot force them to be nice to each other, regardless of who is at fault, if any or both.

It would be completely understandable if OP didn't want that to be her future, I know I would hate all the drama, but that is the situation she is in.

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 15:34

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 08:44

despite the fact that not only did OP say quite clearly in her first post that DD messaged her directly
No she didn't! She said she sent a message, not sent ME a message.

As for the he reprimanded her... HEAVILY prompted by me...OMG, talk about controlling behaviour!

And yet again this is what OP wrote Most recent example is a message she sent where she was incredibly rude and disrespectful (before blocking me, so I couldn't even respond). What don’t you understand - given that it’s also been clarified to you twice more ?

ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 15:20

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 10:30

You can’t avoid conflict when one party is continually inviting it - in this case DD by way of her behaviour towards OP. It’s not avoidance of conflict, it’s accepting the status quo at someone elses’ expense
Oh yes you can, you don't engage. OP is doing exactly the opposite. HEAVILY promoting someone to reprimand their adult child is definitely steering thing and putting fuel on fire. OPs posts makes it very clear that she IS provoking conflict. She is calling her partner names because he doesn't want conflict. That says it all!

I’m not sure l could feel very loving towards someone who was constantly reinforcing the fact that l’m not his priority
But it's not constantly here, it's a couple of occasions a year! I couldn't love or even tolerate a partner, especially not living with me or planning to do telling me how to manage my time the very few times they come to visit me.

Yep, a couple of occasions a year - one of which has involved DP inviting DD to OP’s home this Christmas. Do you really think it’s the sign of an equitable relationship when OP would have hosted DD in the knowledge that any Christmas at her DP’s means she will have to stay away ? I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t resent that !!

InterIgnis · 15/09/2026 15:12

SecretsAndLies77 · 15/09/2026 07:01

Look, am I selfish? Possibly, sometimes, as I'm human, and I'm sure if someone was to dissect your life they could find instances when you've been selfish. Show me a person who doesn't to some degree, sometimes, have self interests at heart!
He's most definitely not looking to dump me, I don't know where that comment comes from. This is a very committed man who spends every weekend taking my kids to football and drama, takes my kids and me away on holidays, entertains my colleagues, cooks / hosts / helps to look after my household as though it's his own. He's taken on the role of the man of the family because, in essence, he is (there certainly isn't another man around to do all that!)
And maybe that's the reason why his DD doesn't like me, maybe she doesn't like the thought that he has built a new life with new people BUT she lives away and has her own life, so why should he not have his - should he be alone? I was perfectly happy to include his DD in everything, and initially loved the idea of big family events etc. I did not push her out. She checked out for her own reasons and now he's left trying to balance things.
I would absolutely not say that he chooses her over me, nor that he chooses me over her either. It's literally comments like this that suggest that it's some kind of zero sum game, a competition - why? I'm talking about emotional fairness, about inclusion.
I'm not sure why you've felt the need to write such a hostile response - 'I hope he dumps you' - you should maybe look to see where your own hate is coming from. I'm surprised you didn't just write 'I hope you die', lol.

Emotional fairness and inclusion aren’t on offer, and I think that’s what you need to come to terms with.

This state of affairs IS the compromise. Neither of are getting everything on your own terms. This is the delicate balance he’s managed to find, to both preserve his relationship with his daughter and have a relationship with you.

Meadowfinch · 15/09/2026 15:05

Generally I'd say "never ask a parent to choose between you and their child because you will lose".

I cannot ever imagine putting a man before my son, but he is only 18 and left home last weekend.

If my ds was 30 and had a home of his own, that might be different but I still can't imagine it. I think if you eventually want to share a home or marry again, I suspect this may not be the man for you.

Vivi0 · 15/09/2026 15:00

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 14:56

OP has said here she thinks he should tell the DD she’s can’t stay at the house, or that she should stay with her DM. Doesn’t sound like she does want to get along at all!

Yep, she has. But it is simply a response to 4 years of the DD not wanting to get along. It’s perfectly understandable that the OP has some feelings around that.

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 14:56

Vivi0 · 15/09/2026 13:44

These are two adult women who do not get along.

I’m not sure that’s true.

There seems to be only one adult woman who doesn’t want to get along. It doesn’t seem to be the case that “they are both just as bad as each other”.

OP has said here she thinks he should tell the DD she’s can’t stay at the house, or that she should stay with her DM. Doesn’t sound like she does want to get along at all!

Switchnow · 15/09/2026 14:55

Cherrytree86 · 15/09/2026 13:47

@Notsosweetcaroline

what’s that got to do with anything?? It’s his money, he can do what he likes with it

And it’s his house, he can decide who comes in and when!

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 15/09/2026 14:44

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:40

but I do - this is the thing - I have a key

Ok so do you live there or just have a key?

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 15/09/2026 14:42

2chocolateoranges · 14/09/2026 09:34

He has respected you by speaking to his daughter when she upset you, it’s now your turn to respect that she doesn’t want anything to do with you and if she is visiting her dad then you stay away.

if you can’t accept that then it’s time to end the relationship. Your relationship doesn’t trump his and his daughters relationship, children always come first.

This

Passaggressfedup · 15/09/2026 14:12

what’s that got to do with anything?? It’s his money, he can do what he likes with it
Just as it's his home and he can face anyone he wants there. It goes both ways!

Cherrytree86 · 15/09/2026 13:47

Notsosweetcaroline · 15/09/2026 11:18

And exactly how much money does he give you each month?

@Notsosweetcaroline

what’s that got to do with anything?? It’s his money, he can do what he likes with it

Vivi0 · 15/09/2026 13:44

TooMuchRedMaybe · 15/09/2026 13:40

What do you suggest he does about that? These are two adult women who do not get along. He loves both of them and presumably wants to be able to have nice conflict free time with both. He can try and force them to spend time together, but who would benefit from that? Nobody.

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These are two adult women who do not get along.

I’m not sure that’s true.

There seems to be only one adult woman who doesn’t want to get along. It doesn’t seem to be the case that “they are both just as bad as each other”.

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