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I should always be welcome in DP's home, regardless of who's there - AIBU?

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SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:24

I will try to not make this too long, but also not drip feed. Please help me distinguish reasonable actions from my own emotions because, to put it simply, everything's at stake.

Been with DP for 4 years and, on the whole, it's a very loving relationship. He's good to me and my kids, fun to be around, reliable and helpful, contributes financially to my household. We don't live together but spend much (most) of the week at each other's homes (although more mine than his), as well as every weekend and holidays.

At the same time, it's been a turbulent relationship (I know that sounds odd after what I've just said, but it can be both good and turbulent, as it's about very defined areas of problems, i.e. one problem = his adult daughters). I have a good relationship with his youngest DD (early 20s) who lives with him, but his eldest (30) who lives away doesn't want to have anything to do with me. At times she's been really rude to me and various members of my family. Most recent example is a message she sent where she was incredibly rude and disrespectful (before blocking me, so I couldn't even respond - a coward's move, IMO). My DP did reprimand her, sort of, via text and heavily prompted by me, which I hate as I don't think it's my job to stand up for this relationship and my dignity, but his. I think left to his own devices he would just always avoid all conflict. He is very scared she will cut him out of his life.

I feel I've come to the end with being able to accept that he doesn't stand up for me of his own free will, and that when he sees her he doesn't feel a shred of annoyance, resentment or anger about the awful ways she's behaved. I understand we all love our children, and I understand he's scared of losing her. I'm not even saying that he should necessarily show her that he's upset about her bad behaviour, but simply that he should feel something for me, the way she's treated me (in other words, show ME - show some kind of outrage, empathy, solidarity). If someone mistreated my DP, even if it was my kids, I'd be pretty livid. I know people are different, and I know men and women can be very different in their emotional processing. But still. How can it be true that he loves me, but that he doesn't feel anything when someone repeatedly hurts me?

The other thing is that, when she comes to stay at his, although at all other times I'm (more than) welcome in his house, there's an expectation that I won't come while she's there. Now, I get that it's her former home, she still has a room there. But, at all other times, I have complete access to his house, not just that but he's even repeatedly hosted friends of mine for long weekends (because the house is big and has spare rooms and bathrooms), but when his daughter is there, the quiet understanding is that I'm not welcome. But, just as an example, we're spending Xmas at mine this year and he of course invited her too. I knew she would say no, but that's not the point. So, she's meant to be always welcome in my house, but I'm not only not welcome at family events, but also my own partner's house when she's there? It strikes me as very unfair and unreasonable.

I've been living with this for a while, and this morning I woke up and thought, I don't know if I love him any more. This has seriously eroded my feelings for him. It's a huge shame, as four years is a lot of time together and he's amazing in many ways and I love(d) him possibly more than any other man before him, including my ex husband. But this continued unfairness and indignity has eaten away at the core of our connection.

YABU - this is a reasonable compromise in a complicated family dynamic because parents will always put their children first, even when they're nearly 30, and most women would find a way to live with this, even if it hurts them

YANBU - this is a major breach of love and loyalty towards me on his side, and if he's not prepared to let her know that his home is always open to me, I should walk away even after 4 years together.

Can I just say (if you're read this far), if you're not divorced and in a relationship with a man who's got adult kids, you won't have any kind of realistic perspective on a situation of this kind. I'm looking for some thoughtful and considered responses based in first hand experience of these kinds of dynamics - thank you (and I'll disregard any responses that are rude or unkind, as often I see "pile ons" when it comes to these kinds of questions)

OP posts:
LBFseBrom · 14/09/2026 10:50

WolfFoxHare · 14/09/2026 09:32

Honestly while I don't think you're wrong to feel upset about it, he's always going to put his kids first, even when they're adults. He should be trying his best to bring her round - and presumably that's why he's invited her to yours for Christmas - and it doesn't sound like she's behaving very well at all - but he's still always going to prioritise her. Which is how it should be, in my opinion. So now you need to decide if you can continue to be with him on those terms.

That is what I think.

andthat · 14/09/2026 10:48

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 10:23

Thank you. That's a really helpful and thoughtful response. An honest question: would you have had the expectation that I have (I've not said this out loud, but deep down this is what I'm feeling), which is that if she doesn't want to "allow me" in his house - which isn't hers to allow or not allow anything - then they should be meeting in a restaurant for lunch? It's not necessarily that I want to be at the house when she's there (in fact I don't - I've no desire to see her) but I struggle very much with this idea that, on the whim of someone who doesn't even live there, my kids and I aren't welcome while she's there (but the next day we're back there for dinner?!) It's a question of principle. My partner is never 'not allowed' at my house. There are times he's not there, but that's because there's stuff going on, not because someone has tried to veto his presence. The asymmetry really hurts me.

Problem is DP is almost pathologically conflict avoidant, so it's hard for me to judge anything by his reactions and I've no one else I could have as any sort of reasonable guide or 'yard stick'.

@SecretsAndLies77 I think your final paragraph sums up the issue - your partner is not wiling to upset his daughter, to put you first.

You said you've only met 6-7 times in four years... where has all the vitriol come from? Was there an incident or moment where she just arbitrarily decided that she wasn't going to be in the same room as you? If there wasn't, then your partner needs to sit her down and tell her that he expects her to respect his choices and to be courteous to you - and that he won't be telling you to leave the house on her say so.

Unless there is some massive backstory as to why she seemingly hates you, then you simply have a partner problem and he needs to man up.

tara66 · 14/09/2026 10:48

SD is jealous of you. You are taking away her father's love and attention that she wants. You are an rival and an intruder. Can't you see that?

DozyCrow · 14/09/2026 10:48

Hi OP, a few questions...

Has she been like this with previous girlfriends or partners your DP has had? Just wondering if it's a case of not wanting her dad to move on or have a romantic life of his own, or if it's specific to you?
Has her mum had/got a new partner, and is the DD accepting of them?
What was the cause of the divorce? If your DP initiated it, maybe she's punishing him in some way.

I wouldn't be happy in your situation that's she's calling the shots. She's 30, not a kid, and she needs to accept that your DP is entitled to have an emotional and romantic connection with someone other than her mother.

Poodleville · 14/09/2026 10:47

No comments just questions:

In an ideal world, how would you like him to react?

If it cost him his relationship with his daughter - whether she was overreacting or not - how would that be for you?

What would you do if things were the other way round and you were realistically facing losing contact with one of your children?

Deadlykitten · 14/09/2026 10:46

The more i read your replies the more i think you’re just being petty, like why do you need to be there when she is? you’ve seen her 4 times in four years so how is this a big problem, she’s 30 years old her dad can’t make her like you.

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 10:46

Sartre · 14/09/2026 10:28

I’m also in my 30s and can’t imagine a world in which I’d be so heavily invested in my parent’s relationships. Does she have a career? Family of her own? Why is she spending so much time causing drama with you and her dad, I think her behaviour is rather infantile and frankly embarrassing. I’d understand this from a teenager but a woman in her 30s?!

Thank you. It's hard to understand, yes. She does have a partner (although it's always rocky between them) but doesn't have any friends.

She lives in another town and has a career. It's hard for me to say for sure as I know her so little - I've only seen her a handful of times - but I think she was always just very used to getting her own way. When we were in the earlier stages of the relationship, she would turn up with virtually no notice and expect DP to cancel whatever plan he had with me, to see her. He was initially doing this, but after a few situations I said I wasn't okay with that because my time is also valuable, so if he's made a plan with me I expect him to stick to it. A little bit of notice is not unreasonable to ask for.

That, I think, started her resentment. It's not one big situation where there was a fallout, just accumulation of small things where she didn't get her way.

I guess that's the bottom line - it's her way or the highway, and she has punished him massively through withdrawal whenever he put our relationship first in any way. So he's grown to be really scared of it, and has told me openly he's scared of losing her completely. I understand that fear, as a parent, the problem is that now she has the dad 'over the barrell'....

I guess before me he was always completely, and I mean 1000% available for them, as he had nothing else going on in his life (other than work). His daughters were his social companions, confidants, and he more or less lived in the service of them. Personally, I kind of blame him for having a somewhat enmeshed relationship in the first place, and of course it's now very difficult to change, but I understand that he was lonely and needed something to live for, so of course you'd make your DC your entire universe. Problem is, she's developed some kind of belief that she literally is the centre of the universe. She's not ever taking anyone else into account - not him, not her sister, not anyone. No wonder she's got no friends, when you think about it.

The younger daughter, for again reasons of her own, really likes me and I see her quite a bit. I sometimes go out just with her and my DD who, although a bit younger, gets on great with her. We also all hang out together at times, and the younger DD is coming to mine at Xmas.

Just to make it clear - we've not ever tried to exclude the older one, in fact I tried to reach out more than once to smooth things over, but she ignored me. It's come to the point where I don't want to see her either, but I also don't want her dad to pretend I don't exist when she's there.

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AprilMizzel · 14/09/2026 10:45

I'm not the demographic Op wants to answer but

The 30 year old should be much more civilised and follow the polite social conventions partly out of respect for her Father's choice of partner.

This ^^ - be an adult and polite.

Many people do not like parents new partners but manage basic politness. He could easily sit his grown child down and explain who he dates in none of her bussiness and he expects a basic level of politeness if you happen to meet.

However it's his house. If you lived together then making you not be there when daughter is would clearly be very wrong and I'd expect a netural locations outside home for meetups between them. However you do not - it's his house and key or not you need his permission to be there - so he's not wrong to ask you not to be in his house at certian times.

However if you do not like how he behaves in this relatonship - around access or around not standing up to his eldest daughter - then leave the relationship. You can talk to him but if his actions have not changed - then leave.

FringedAnd · 14/09/2026 10:44

MrMucker · 14/09/2026 10:32

Yeah seems that way, but we don't have the back story or daughter's side of things

It's irrelevant, though, whether the OP is some kind of horrible villain and the DD is a put-upon saint. The situation is as it is, and the OP can only change her own behaviour, and not anyone else's. She can't make the daughter tolerate her, or force her partner to act differently as a parent.

LoveItaly · 14/09/2026 10:44

I think that if you persist with your attitude of having the right to be in your partner’s house whenever you want, and on the occasions that his daughter is there (just to make a point, I suspect), you will either cause friction in your relationship or damage your partner’s one with her.

If the latter happens, and the daughter cuts him off or their relationship becomes extremely strained, he will likely blame you and feel such resentment towards you, that your relationship won’t recover. Accept that she doesn’t want a friendship with you, immature and unreasonable as that may be, and stop trying to insert yourself where you aren’t wanted.

You don’t even live together, suggesting he and his daughter should meet in a restaurant rather than his home, just because you have a key and may want to ‘pop in’ is frankly ridiculous.

mathematicallydriving · 14/09/2026 10:44

When I was a young adult, I tried to rearrange a visit to my dad and his wife (not my step mum, they got together when I was 17) by arriving one day later, to give me a chance to rest after coming down with a D&V bug a few days before. My dad went apoplectic at me as it didn’t fit with their plans (I’m still not sure how, it was never explained) and I was ‘not making an effort to integrate with family life’. Other family members from both sides chimed in too. I didn’t go, and went NC for the best part of a year. We get on now, but I will never fully trust them again. It showed me how quickly I would be discarded if I didn’t toe the family line.

KarmenPQZ · 14/09/2026 10:43

WChat are you long term plans with your partner. Don’t ever talk about moving in together? What does the thinking that?

havebyou suggested he and has daughter so some counselling?

FurthestEdge · 14/09/2026 10:43

but I do - this is the thing - I have a key

I have a key to my daughter's house and you can't get a much closer relationship than that. I wouldn't use it to enter her house without her express request or permission.

NeelyOHara · 14/09/2026 10:38

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 14/09/2026 10:35

She's not in her 30s.

No, she’s only just 30. So she was in her 20’s when OP and her dad got together.
Why does her dad contribute financially to your household and children?

KatyKan · 14/09/2026 10:37

These are not young children these are adults so one would expect adult behaviour.
The 30 year old should be much more civilised and follow the polite social conventions partly out of respect for her Father's choice of partner.

Iamnofool · 14/09/2026 10:36

This is why you have separate homes.
Just because someone has a key, they don’t just walk in knowing it is not convenient.

In my second marriage there were some very tricky times, when my husband felt he was piggy in the middle. When his daughter left for university she did not come home again, unless I was away for a few days. He saw her at university or they both stayed at her grandmother’s.
If we had kept our separate homes I would certainly not just have turned up at his when she was there. YABU. But probably so is she. We don’t know enough.

Kickinthenostalgia · 14/09/2026 10:35

you said you woke up this morning and realised you are not in love with him, that there tells you everything you need to know. I’m very aware daughters can be very vindictive but honestly as a mum kids always come first, but saying that I’ve made sure my children are not disrespectful. If they don’t like someone they are still pleasant, just don’t need to be best buddies, they are 18 and 14 Obviously there’s 3 sides to every story, yours, hers and the truth. She’s 30 I think she can manage to keep her emotions in check enough for you to visit her dad.

Annoyedbyhusband · 14/09/2026 10:35

I just think there isn’t much more you can do about this. I am not a first wife but looking at it just from an outsiders point of view, this has been 4 years, the situation is unlikely to change. It is how it is, either you are happy or want out.
My dad has a large family and quite a a few of them won’t set foot in each others houses and don’t speak and they are blood relatives, it just is how it is, at family events either one person goes or the other, or sometimes invite them all then let them decide or not to come. So I do think it’s entirely possible to manage this situation and continue with the relationship if you want and just leave things as they are.
but it’s unlikely to change.
have you ever had a conversation about it with her?

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 14/09/2026 10:35

Sartre · 14/09/2026 10:30

No, his DD thinks she can call the shots for some reason and demand OP isn’t there whenever she is. It’s so bizarre. It’s not her home but also, she’s in her 30s!

She's not in her 30s.

DidILeaveTheGasOn · 14/09/2026 10:35

I knew as I clicked 'YANBU' that the vote would be going the other way. Mumsnet has become so militant and cruel over the past few years about certain topics, and blended families and step mothers really get some posters' juices going.

It feels to me that your DH has been a rabbit in headlights since this became an issue and he has remained frozen in that state. His inertia and I'd say cowardice here have prevented the issue from a potential (albeit unlikely) resolution, or to at least reach a truce where everybody's feelings are valid.

I am divorced. My new partner lives with me and the children. They like him. They do not like my ex husband's new wife. The children are encouraged to be polite and respectful, and they are. My daughter is the type to have Big Feelings (gets that from me) and she has really big feelings about the new wife, but we talk about it and work through it together. She doesn't strop about and the children's dad doesn't make the new wife live in the shed or something. Slight exaggeration there but you know what I mean.

I feel your DH has really let you down here, Op. He's abandoned you in this situation. I do think he's a coward. He's let both of you down really because, yes, it's unlikely given what you've posted about the daughter, but maybe there could have been a cordial relationship there that could have softened over time. It was never allowed to get to that point. I'm really sorry Op, it sounds so sad.

Switchnow · 14/09/2026 10:34

NeelyOHara · 14/09/2026 10:32

Yes I think you have. Obviously OP and her children should be allowed to walk into this man’s house whenever they like. If the daughter doesn’t like that, she shouldn’t be allowed to spend time with her dad in her childhood home, and should be made go to a restaurant.

Batshit. She says they spend most of their time at her house anyway!

Switchnow · 14/09/2026 10:33

Sartre · 14/09/2026 10:28

I’m also in my 30s and can’t imagine a world in which I’d be so heavily invested in my parent’s relationships. Does she have a career? Family of her own? Why is she spending so much time causing drama with you and her dad, I think her behaviour is rather infantile and frankly embarrassing. I’d understand this from a teenager but a woman in her 30s?!

It depends, we don’t have loads of info but the fact he contributes financially to her household might be an issue. OP is seeming increasingly more controlling too. DD might be concerned about the set up.

NeelyOHara · 14/09/2026 10:32

Switchnow · 14/09/2026 10:29

You want your DP to refuse to allow the DD at his home, because she doesn’t want to you to be there when she is?

Have I understood that correctly?

Yes I think you have. Obviously OP and her children should be allowed to walk into this man’s house whenever they like. If the daughter doesn’t like that, she shouldn’t be allowed to spend time with her dad in her childhood home, and should be made go to a restaurant.

outerspacepotato · 14/09/2026 10:32

You don't live together.

One daughter dislikes you.

She doesn't want to see you when she comes to see her dad.

There's an "expectation" that you stay away from his house when his daughter is there to avoid conflict.

That's perfectly reasonable. He doesn't want drama when his daughter is visiting, he wants a nice visit. It's his house, not your house, so stay away. You don't have rights to enter someone else's home 24/7.

His doesn't chastise his daughter for you when she sent you a mean message.

She's an adult. It's not really up to him to referee your interpersonal conflict. He doesn't want to fall out with his daughter. Could he ask her to be polite? Sure, but he's not going to. He wants a comfortable life.

That's his family. You're his girlfriend. He values his kids more than you and that bothers you. There's nothing you can do about that. I don't see this relationship progressing past where it is now if one of his daughters dislikes you so much and he wants to keep from rocking the boat. If you don't like the way things are, break up.

I'm a lone parent. My kids come first. If I were him, I'd tell you clearly to back off when my kids are visiting and stop the drama and no, you can't have unlimited access to my home. I don't plan on marrying or living with someone again so what I have goes to my kids.

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/09/2026 10:32

I suppose I’d think through what my lines are. I agree with others that having a key isn’t the same as 24/7 access no matter what. I would tell him he may not invite her around to mine, whether or not she will come; knowing how she feels about me she is not welcome and not invited, and he needs to respect my home enough to not even make the gesture.
the other line I’m not sure about is the family events- what does that mean? Does that mean you don’t go to his family things? You aren’t invited? She isn’t? Depending on the answer that might be a line- I wouldn’t be with a man where I was only allowed at family events if another 30 year old woman had said she was not coming. But I think I’d be ok with not going to his house when she’s around assuming that’s a fairly limited number of times. It does remove the option of living together because I would not leave my primary home to facilitate this woman, so if that’s a deal breaker then I’d end it. I think, without being in this situation, that those are my lines.