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I should always be welcome in DP's home, regardless of who's there - AIBU?

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SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:24

I will try to not make this too long, but also not drip feed. Please help me distinguish reasonable actions from my own emotions because, to put it simply, everything's at stake.

Been with DP for 4 years and, on the whole, it's a very loving relationship. He's good to me and my kids, fun to be around, reliable and helpful, contributes financially to my household. We don't live together but spend much (most) of the week at each other's homes (although more mine than his), as well as every weekend and holidays.

At the same time, it's been a turbulent relationship (I know that sounds odd after what I've just said, but it can be both good and turbulent, as it's about very defined areas of problems, i.e. one problem = his adult daughters). I have a good relationship with his youngest DD (early 20s) who lives with him, but his eldest (30) who lives away doesn't want to have anything to do with me. At times she's been really rude to me and various members of my family. Most recent example is a message she sent where she was incredibly rude and disrespectful (before blocking me, so I couldn't even respond - a coward's move, IMO). My DP did reprimand her, sort of, via text and heavily prompted by me, which I hate as I don't think it's my job to stand up for this relationship and my dignity, but his. I think left to his own devices he would just always avoid all conflict. He is very scared she will cut him out of his life.

I feel I've come to the end with being able to accept that he doesn't stand up for me of his own free will, and that when he sees her he doesn't feel a shred of annoyance, resentment or anger about the awful ways she's behaved. I understand we all love our children, and I understand he's scared of losing her. I'm not even saying that he should necessarily show her that he's upset about her bad behaviour, but simply that he should feel something for me, the way she's treated me (in other words, show ME - show some kind of outrage, empathy, solidarity). If someone mistreated my DP, even if it was my kids, I'd be pretty livid. I know people are different, and I know men and women can be very different in their emotional processing. But still. How can it be true that he loves me, but that he doesn't feel anything when someone repeatedly hurts me?

The other thing is that, when she comes to stay at his, although at all other times I'm (more than) welcome in his house, there's an expectation that I won't come while she's there. Now, I get that it's her former home, she still has a room there. But, at all other times, I have complete access to his house, not just that but he's even repeatedly hosted friends of mine for long weekends (because the house is big and has spare rooms and bathrooms), but when his daughter is there, the quiet understanding is that I'm not welcome. But, just as an example, we're spending Xmas at mine this year and he of course invited her too. I knew she would say no, but that's not the point. So, she's meant to be always welcome in my house, but I'm not only not welcome at family events, but also my own partner's house when she's there? It strikes me as very unfair and unreasonable.

I've been living with this for a while, and this morning I woke up and thought, I don't know if I love him any more. This has seriously eroded my feelings for him. It's a huge shame, as four years is a lot of time together and he's amazing in many ways and I love(d) him possibly more than any other man before him, including my ex husband. But this continued unfairness and indignity has eaten away at the core of our connection.

YABU - this is a reasonable compromise in a complicated family dynamic because parents will always put their children first, even when they're nearly 30, and most women would find a way to live with this, even if it hurts them

YANBU - this is a major breach of love and loyalty towards me on his side, and if he's not prepared to let her know that his home is always open to me, I should walk away even after 4 years together.

Can I just say (if you're read this far), if you're not divorced and in a relationship with a man who's got adult kids, you won't have any kind of realistic perspective on a situation of this kind. I'm looking for some thoughtful and considered responses based in first hand experience of these kinds of dynamics - thank you (and I'll disregard any responses that are rude or unkind, as often I see "pile ons" when it comes to these kinds of questions)

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ThreadGuardDog · 15/09/2026 04:51

MintyBadgerPrincessCheese · 14/09/2026 12:49

The daughter used to live in that house. It is her childhood home.

The OP has never lived in that house.

If anyone 'should' have more say into who is welcome at which times, I'd say it was the daughter.

I’d say it was the father. It’s his home and he lives there. Only problem is he’s spineless.

Bubbaliciousss · 15/09/2026 04:47

saveforthat · 14/09/2026 09:37

I was in a similar situation once. The children always come first no matter how rude they may be. You say there is a "quiet understanding" that you are not welcome when she is there. Have you tried just turning up? his reaction will tell you what you need to know.

OP don't just turn up anyway. It's completely disrespecting everyones boundaries and a massive fuck you to your partner and his daughter. If my partner did this to me, went against my wishes in regards to my family, I'd immediately end things.

78Summer · 15/09/2026 03:58

I understand your frustrations but he will always be loyal to his daughter and if she is at the house - which does sound like it is not very often - why would you want to be there. Real life is not ideal so if you can’t accept the situation you may be better apart.

darkling2 · 15/09/2026 03:46

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:36

And this is exactly why I said that I'm interested in comments only from people who've been in this situation, not first wives... Thank you for your input.

You come across incredibly badly in this thread, this reply is demanding, rude and entitled. You could simply have ignored it. But - and this is key - you want validation. Not advice.

And the person you snarkily shouted down was quite right. Respect her choice to have nothing to do with you, since there is literally nothing you can do about it that won't get you arrested or make you look like an absolute loon at best.

And stop pestering her poor father. He doesn't have to agree with you.

Nobody has to agree with you. Time you started to understand that.

darkling2 · 15/09/2026 03:40

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darkling2 · 15/09/2026 03:33

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:40

but I do - this is the thing - I have a key

But you don't - this is the thing - it's not your home.

Strawberrryfields · 15/09/2026 03:15

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 22:25

He for whatever reason believes that in due course she'll 'soften'. I have told him I have major reservations about us living together full stop, though. He said he would accept that if that's my decision but for the moment it's kind of open. My DC are too young for this to be a realistic plan for any time soon.
Yes, I know what you mean about her being difficult if anything happens to him. We are in the process of sorting out power of attorney for health purposes.

So you will have power of attorney for health for him? The man you’re on mumsnet questioning whether you should break up with? Does that seem off to you at all?

You’re also accepting money from this man while claiming to be a professional woman who doesn’t need it. Will you also have poa for his finances?

I can understand why his daughter doesn’t like you and might be feeling protective of her dad. He actually sounds somewhat vulnerable/ naive.

WearyAuldWumman · 15/09/2026 00:51

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 23:51

Not really. He is a fair bit older than me but even so, I'm a "normal amount" older than his daughter, so I don't think it's one of those. I do know what you mean though. The more PPs have asked the more I thought about it, and came to the conclusion, it's really just the fact that he used to be entirely at her beck and call, and now he isn't (which is normal - a man can't have a serious committed relationship while being at his adult children's beck and call - it just doesn't work like that). I just don't feel she's ever forgiven the change.

My husband's daughter and her partner had the same age gap as between my husband and me. She actually had step-grandchildren who were older than her daughter - so you'd think that the age gap wouldn't be an issue, but...

I had a very long post written out, explaining what made me think that the age difference was an issue, but I've deleted. As I've said previously, people's feelings don't always follow logic.

Wingingitbestican · 15/09/2026 00:15

thehound4 · 14/09/2026 09:51

I don’t think you’ll get very balanced answers here op. MN has a real issue with blended/step families and usually promote the ‘kids come first’ attitude even when the ‘kids’ in question are adults themselves.

You haven’t elaborated on why she has such a problem with you? Is it a personality clash or does she just not want her dad to be with anyone?

It would be a shame to end what it essentially a very good relationship just because of the actions of a grown woman who can’t be civil. I would really lay it on the line for your dh because being disrespectful and rude to you and your family isn’t ok and he should absolutely be addressing needlessly abusive behaviour. Just because she’s his daughter it doesn’t mean she gets a free pass to act like a twat for no reason. I think I’d try having one last, frank discussion and be clear about how close you are to the end because of this.

I do totally get why this would erode your love for him though, his failure to reprimand her shows that he is at best passive and at worst not bothered about her treatment towards you.

If he wants to prioritise his dd that’s his business but I foresee a very lonely future for him if that’s the case.

Ditto

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 23:51

OtterlyAstounding · 14/09/2026 23:24

OP, by any chance are you closer in age to your partner's daughter than you are to him? I'm very curious - I think this (rightly or wrongly) is often an issue that adult children have with a parent's new partner.

Not really. He is a fair bit older than me but even so, I'm a "normal amount" older than his daughter, so I don't think it's one of those. I do know what you mean though. The more PPs have asked the more I thought about it, and came to the conclusion, it's really just the fact that he used to be entirely at her beck and call, and now he isn't (which is normal - a man can't have a serious committed relationship while being at his adult children's beck and call - it just doesn't work like that). I just don't feel she's ever forgiven the change.

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OtterlyAstounding · 14/09/2026 23:24

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 22:25

He for whatever reason believes that in due course she'll 'soften'. I have told him I have major reservations about us living together full stop, though. He said he would accept that if that's my decision but for the moment it's kind of open. My DC are too young for this to be a realistic plan for any time soon.
Yes, I know what you mean about her being difficult if anything happens to him. We are in the process of sorting out power of attorney for health purposes.

OP, by any chance are you closer in age to your partner's daughter than you are to him? I'm very curious - I think this (rightly or wrongly) is often an issue that adult children have with a parent's new partner.

99bottlesofkombucha · 14/09/2026 22:45

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 22:25

He for whatever reason believes that in due course she'll 'soften'. I have told him I have major reservations about us living together full stop, though. He said he would accept that if that's my decision but for the moment it's kind of open. My DC are too young for this to be a realistic plan for any time soon.
Yes, I know what you mean about her being difficult if anything happens to him. We are in the process of sorting out power of attorney for health purposes.

Have you said it’s your decision too? You’re telling me your house cannot be a home for ds and I - do you think I and ds would politely leave so your dd can come around if that’s my home? It wouldn’t be happening, but you want me to, so you currently have decided we can’t live together irrespective of any other thoughts I have.

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 22:25

SoManySliders · 14/09/2026 20:54

You say that your OH would like you to live together in the future, how does he envisage this happening with the way things currently stand with his daughters attitude towards you? Will you be expected to leave what would be your own home any time she is to visit?

Something for you to consider also if you are to continue the relationship, where will you fit in if your OH gets seriously ill, is incapacitated, or dies? I could see this madam banning you from entering hospital rooms/funeral etc.

He for whatever reason believes that in due course she'll 'soften'. I have told him I have major reservations about us living together full stop, though. He said he would accept that if that's my decision but for the moment it's kind of open. My DC are too young for this to be a realistic plan for any time soon.
Yes, I know what you mean about her being difficult if anything happens to him. We are in the process of sorting out power of attorney for health purposes.

OP posts:
SoManySliders · 14/09/2026 20:54

You say that your OH would like you to live together in the future, how does he envisage this happening with the way things currently stand with his daughters attitude towards you? Will you be expected to leave what would be your own home any time she is to visit?

Something for you to consider also if you are to continue the relationship, where will you fit in if your OH gets seriously ill, is incapacitated, or dies? I could see this madam banning you from entering hospital rooms/funeral etc.

AquamarinePearlGold · 14/09/2026 20:44

whistlesandbells · 14/09/2026 18:47

In my experience of this, shared home with DH who has 2 adult children and we share a child together. His eldest is not keen on me, very similar situation, they are 27, have their own home and live overseas. There is a cool distance between us, particularly since a recent holiday celebration didn’t go as well as hoped. We do not live in their old family home and I had no involvement in the breakdown of his marriage - met 10 years after they divorced. I have no interest in preventing their relationship but I also have no desire to be present. I make myself busy when they visit, I give space, make plans. I am fine with this, it is not often and I make sure it doesn’t affect me. I would be glad to have my own space as you do and to retreat. It is possible to choose not to engage to everyone’s benefit. Also, the less you engage with it, the more unreasonable she looks.

This is good advice.

AquamarinePearlGold · 14/09/2026 20:38

drspouse · 14/09/2026 09:54

Would you not be interested in comments from the daughter in the situation?

What’s that supposed to mean?

WearyAuldWumman · 14/09/2026 20:18

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 17:45

Thank you, but she's not an offspring of a blended family. She was 26 and already living away from home, with her own DP, when I entered their life. She's never had more than a passing contact with me. I don't think that's comparable with someone who had a step mother or had to live with completely new people. This is an independent adult.

I hear what you're saying - I was in a similar situation. However, in my experience blended family dynamics still come into play (particularly when the children eventually have children of their own).

No matter how much time has passed, the children often look back at what were to them the halcyon days when their parents were together and still see themselves as a family unit with their parents.

I'm fairly certain that this was the case with my husband's daughter, in spite of the fact that her partner had adult children (and grandchildren) from a previous relationship.

I don't know what the answer is, but I know that I spent my marriage trying not to rock the boat for my husband's sake.

LVPLVT · 14/09/2026 20:16

He is in a lose lose situation. He has two adult women who he loves on either side of him wanting him to support them and whatever choice he makes is the wrong one, so he’s doing the sensible thing and keeping the hell out of it.

You don’t live together so don’t need access to his home when she is there. Equally, she likely won’t attend events at your home. Life could muddle on quite well so long as you both just keep out of each other’s way.

My instinct is if you push him on this you will lose, and I think you worry about that too, which is why the relationship feels unsafe.

2chocolateoranges · 14/09/2026 20:02

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 09:36

And this is exactly why I said that I'm interested in comments only from people who've been in this situation, not first wives... Thank you for your input.

You don’t know anything about me, my situation or what number of wife I am! 😂

You should maybe have asked for people to only respond to you if they agreed with you, silly me for having a differing opinion.

Passaggressfedup · 14/09/2026 19:49

I think you have to set your own boundaries somehow. It's not fair that you can't enter DP house when she is there, she's a grown ass woman fgs!
I love it how some people use the expression 'setting your own boundaries'! You can set you own boundaries about the decision you make, in your own home.

Setting your own boundaries when it involves telling others what they should do in their own home is called trying to control them!

Of course it is fair that OPs partners sets HIS own boundaries in his OWN home!

maxslice · 14/09/2026 19:42

2chocolateoranges · 14/09/2026 09:34

He has respected you by speaking to his daughter when she upset you, it’s now your turn to respect that she doesn’t want anything to do with you and if she is visiting her dad then you stay away.

if you can’t accept that then it’s time to end the relationship. Your relationship doesn’t trump his and his daughters relationship, children always come first.

Yes, and your hurt is very real and understandable, OP, so during the time you are banished from DP’s home while his daughter is, you should totally spoil yourself. Massage, pedicure, dinner out, maybe a mini break to somewhere warm. Don’t allow yourself to suffer because of that daughter.

downtoearththensinksthesun · 14/09/2026 19:38

Anyahyacinth · 14/09/2026 19:32

That 'freedom and relaxation' you mention above is exactly what DSD is seeking in time with her Dad

Exactly this.

Anyahyacinth · 14/09/2026 19:32

SecretsAndLies77 · 14/09/2026 15:56

I don't really want to live with anyone, though. My DC are only teenagers. Their dad's home has a new live-in partner and her young child. It's only in my house that my kids are completely free, relaxed and the space is 100% theirs. We don't need to change that. Maybe when they both left home for good I'd reconsider. There was a moment when I thought I did want to live with him, but it was a bad idea and passed quickly.

That 'freedom and relaxation' you mention above is exactly what DSD is seeking in time with her Dad

Madamecholetsbonnet · 14/09/2026 19:22

I don’t see a future with this relationship

Babyboomtastic · 14/09/2026 19:18

It all feels a bit contradictory at times.

You say you have unlimited access to his home, can (and should) come and go as you please, but that doesn't go both ways because you don't want him there all the time, you value your own space in not living together etc. So there are also limits to how much your want him at your house.

The difference is you want him not there's so you can have space. He wants you not at his so he can maintain a tricky relationship.

It's like what's his is yours, and what's yours is yours.