To think banning fried eggs is a step too far?

All i can think of are the eating disorders that will follow in a few years.
Some parents are over the top with healthy eating and now the schools.

I was always hungry as child because of this crap.

Oh my god are you serious? Do you know that obesity starts in the mind??? And can start with habits we form as children??

It’s really dangerous and hard to put a teenager on a diet due to the eating disorder risk, my main aim is to keep my 5 year old healthy so he doesn’t end up worry about weight in his teens and twenties etc.

Zero? It has calories, B vitamins, is generally fortified with iron, folate, calcium. Certainly not 0 nutrition and modern cereals are far lower in sugars than the 90s.

You shouldn’t fry in olive oil. It’s smoke point is too low no matter if it’s good quality or not. Cold pressed rapeseed is better for high heat’s.

In isolation fried eggs are fine. But children aren’t eating in isolation - they’re eating in a wider dietary context and what studies show is that context is filled with too much fat, saturated fat and calories. So adding more oil and fats to their diet contributes to an unhealthy diet - especially as excessive unhealthy fats are risk increasers for diabetes and obesity.

Now, the other issue is acrolein and oxidised cholesterols. Acrolein: When oil hits its smoke point, glycerol breaks down into acrolein, a respiratory irritant found in smoke and burnt fat (it’s also a carcinogen!). OCs: LDL cholesterol that has been chemically damaged by free radicals, turning it into a highly inflammatory, artery‑injuring form called oxidised LDL (oxLDL).Both are present in fried eggs.

You don’t need as many though do you?

They still have to have kitchen staff to give the kids the crap they serve, surely?

This is absolutely not true. The main cost- 90% of the cost- is labour, and people working in kitchens and serving up food rather than industrial kitchens is hugely more expensive.

and in Jamie Oliver’s day (what was that, 20 years ago?) we didn’t even have minimum wage and recently increased NI.

I thought that several chefs proved that if it is cooked on site from scratch, it can be cheaper and far more nutritional. There was Jamie Oliver and Marcus Brigstock? in hospitals. It depends where you buy it. Outsourcing was a HUGE mistake.

Because parents won’t. If parents did, schools wouldn’t have to.

I agree with this. At the end of the day, we are targeting children because they are there, and they are vulnerable. A secondary school child will be able to eat whatever the hell they want at uni, or at work. We don’t tell anyone else what they should be eating.

yes childhood is a great opportunity to educate and embed habits.

But the reality is children’s bodies are best able to tolerate an unhealthy diet anyway. An 8 year old won’t suffer from being overweight the way a 75 year old will. An 8 year old won’t get blocked arteries or fatty liver from their diet. You only have them under state control for a short amount of time, and it is very unlikely to hold the sort of influence posters like to think it does

Every few years different governments have a stab at this same trick. It's a quick easy vote winner to look like they care about kids wellbeing, but if you actually drill down into the changes it all falls apart. It's all about optics, the same as everything governments do over the last decade. So fed up of the fucking micro managing interfering twattery in this country.

The worst thing about a fried egg is likely the forever chemicals in the non-stick pan that will likely be used.

But otherwise, eggs are phenomenal and I eat almost two dozen of them every week.

Why? Schools aren’t the social care of last resort. Agree with minimum standards but this is ridiculous.

But they have to try.

I don’t need a policy change as my DD has a reasonably healthy lunch.
Sadly many others don’t.

Mine says school pizzas are disgusting.

But i do agree portions need to be appropriate, its daft giving tiny 4 year olds the same portions as an adult sized 12 year old.

We were brought up on the old traditional meals back in the 50s and 60s. Mum cooked from scratch, cottage pie, steak and kidney pie, chops, chicken roast, lots of casseroles and stews in the winter, rarely did we have anything fried. Vegetables were only ever seasonal nothing fancy and hardly any choice of what was available. I remember the first time mum bought a tin of Jolly Green Giant sweetcorn to try, we didn't like it so she never bought it again. I do eat it now though.

Our school dinners were on the same lines and vegetables were usually carrots, cabbage, butter beans (hated them at school) and brussels sprouts.

I quite liked school dinners as an infant and junior school kid but stopped having them when I was about 14 and went home for lunch instead.

Breakfast clubs provide carby crap.

They generally offer long shelf live processed foods. Cheap cereals & bagels. Even when i need the before school childcare i give my DC breakfast at home first rather than the crap at breakfast club.

it would be much better if they offered boiled eggs, porridge. They dont as both involve cooking.

I just spray the bottom of the pan with that one cal spray for fried eggs. I cook scrambled eggs in butter, with a dash of cream. So, what’s better?

I don’t think a lot of parents know how poor school dinners are. Chicken drumsticks served to 4yr olds not cut off the bone, school dinners need to be at least a little child friendly and recognisable. Why can’t they have pizza or fish & chips on a Friday. Even if they do the portions are so small. 1/2 a jacket potato for an 11yr old who is bigger than some of the staff. Fruit cup was 2 slices of apple. But school can say they are having fruit!
The more restrictions put on the meals the more children ( who have to have school dinners as packed lunch has been removed) will just not eat. It’s not the right way forward.

Expensive, requires refrigeration plus low burning point.

Call the eggs ‘pan fried’ instead of fried and all will be well😅😅

My child isn’t a guest though, he’s part of the family and he can be trusted to make sensible suggestions, so if I’m wondering what to cook and there is a choice and I’m not bothered about his answer then it’s perfectly fine to offer a choice.

I asked him this weekend if he wanted a roast or lamb casserole on Sunday and he chose casserole.

I think you’ve expressed that very well comparing the asking and telling.