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AIBU to forgive a friend who shouted at me and my children?

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PretzelPretzel · 13/09/2026 01:33

Long story short, myself and my almost teenage children were going out with a friend of mine for the day. My friend let us know when she had parked outside, and we were to leave our house and go to her car (as she wanted to go straight away and not come inside). It's typical that when we were about to leave, one child couldn't find their socks, and then the other child had to go and get changed after noticing a hole in the back of their trousers. This delayed us getting to my friends car by about 6-7 minutes after she'd parked up (honestly it was no longer, and we don't usually do this). I realise that waiting is a pain in the arse, but I assumed that an apology from me would cut it.
Anyway, when we got into the car, she was very off with me and the children. She then started ranting and droning on about how we take the piss for making her wait. I apologised, but was told that my apology was not accepted as "you know I don't like waiting for anyone".
She literally ranted on and on for around 15minutes non stop. It was making the atmosphere in the car really awkward and uncomfortable, and she was starting to get louder and louder. I apologised again and asked how much longer she was going to go on about it? This enraged her further, and I was met with full on shouting, F bombs, and her fist banging the door on her side, and the steering wheel. This carried on for another 10 or so minutes, continuous expletives and shouting. Myself and my children sat in silence/shock. I then asked her to pull over and let us out of the car, but was refused as she still wanted to go on our day out because I'd apparently already wasted enough of her time.
We spent the rest of the journey in awkward silence, until I was barked at to get out at the petrol station to buy her petrol. I'm not usually a push over, but was so in shock that I did what I was told.
We had a crap time once we arrived at the destination, as she was still raging and making snarky comments.
Once home, I ignored her for a week, until she called to apologise. Then she said it's best we stop talking altogether because her rage was always taking over and she didn't want to keep upsetting me and my children. She has form for this, but I've always stood by her as I've known her and been close to her for years, long before I'd ever seen her rage. These rages are always over trivial things that other people wouldn't bother about.
AIBU if I forgive her?
Sould I just let her go?
Friends are hard to come by, and I've not got any others currently.

OP posts:
Anarchy99 · 13/09/2026 09:28

AlvisParsley · 13/09/2026 09:16

Simple. Just don't contact this weirdo again and don't respond if she contacts you. What a terrible person.

Why would she have done that? The last thing that would have occurred to her would be driving off with the partial source of irritation still in the car!

Uricon2 · 13/09/2026 09:28

Once home, I ignored her for a week, until she called to apologise. Then she said it's best we stop talking altogether because her rage was always taking over and she didn't want to keep upsetting me and my children.

This gave you your out, you could have agreed, ended the call and blocked her. What did you say in response? I don't actually think she means it BTW, she wants you to say everything is OK. Also, if she's alright in public and with most other people, don't you think she's treating you as her own personal Aunt Sally and cashpoint because she knows you'll let her?

Bubbaliciousss · 13/09/2026 09:28

Fuck that, cut her right off

Phoenix1Arisen · 13/09/2026 09:25

OP - while you are digesting all these replies, let me point out something that is very important.

What your so-called friend did has a name - it is called unlawful detention and it can be a crime or a punishable action (ie you can claim damages) depending upon who did the detaining and why.

In your shoes, I could not forgive. What right does she have to effectively kidnap you?

Sassylovesbooks · 13/09/2026 09:24

Yes, waiting is annoying but it's not like you kept her waiting for half an hour, it was no more than 5-6 minutes.

Your friend verbally abused you, in front of your children, and was so rage ridden, that she hit her car door/sterling wheel. She demanded you full the car up with fuel at the petrol station and then continued to make snide comments throughout the day.

This person is not your friend. With someone like this in your life, you certainly don't need any enemies, do you? She's a vile human being, who has a nasty and aggressive temper.

From your post, this isn't the first time she's spoken to you like this either. Has she spoken to you so badly in front of your children before now? The fact she shouted, swore and ranted at you in front of your children, should be enough for you to walk away from the friendship. If you continue with this friendship, you are teaching your children that her behaviour is not only acceptable but normal.

I would reply back 'I agree. I don't wish to be friends with someone who thinks it's acceptable to swear, shout and rant at me and my children. It's vile behaviour that I won't be accepting any longer'. I would then block this woman.

Holidaymodeon · 13/09/2026 09:17

You shouldn’t have left the kids in the car with her at the garage, she sounds fucking horrible, they must have been terrified, what if she was still raging and drove off with them to teach you a lesson?

AlvisParsley · 13/09/2026 09:16

Simple. Just don't contact this weirdo again and don't respond if she contacts you. What a terrible person.

Over40Overdating · 13/09/2026 09:14

Your want to forgive is slightly beside the point - she has told you she doesn’t need or want to change and that she thinks she should stay clear of you all. She’s removed herself from your life.

My dad is like your friend - worse even - and has lost every friend, acquaintance and job he’s ever had because of it and still will not change at almost 80.
Listen to what she’s telling you. This is how she wants to live her life and you forgiving her will make zero difference. She might even resent you more for it

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/09/2026 09:14

Theonethatlurks · 13/09/2026 08:56

Maybe she has PDA and is just good at masking in public.

So?

AnneLovesGilbert · 13/09/2026 09:13

It’s been a dysfunctional mess for ages from what you say so realise it’s over, don’t see her again and I hope you’ve had a chat with your DC about how unacceptable her behaviour has been and how you were wrong to expose them to it.

MeridianB · 13/09/2026 09:11

RosesAreRedRight · 13/09/2026 01:36

She’s abusive and you’re showing your kids they should accept that kind of behaviour in relationships too. So I’d end all contact with her.

This! She sounds unhinged. Block her and don’t look back.

Alsonification · 13/09/2026 09:07

Ah hell no!!! Show your children that this behaviour is unacceptable & never see her again. She’s got you right where she wants you, she can treat you however she likes & you still pay for her days out!
I can understand it’s hard to lose a friend, I’ve had similar, not an abusive friend but someone I’ve had to step back a bit from after nearly 40 years of friendship because of her behaviour, but this woman is no friend to you.

SpryCat · 13/09/2026 09:07

Abusive people always have an excuse, they blame a bad childhood or a bad experience with a friend in the past but a sob story to explain away abusive behaviour is their way to make you overlook their behaviour and feel sorry for them. Raging at you and your children, refusing to let you out of the car whilst making you pay for petrol and her ticket cannot be excused, she is using you has form for losing friends because she treats them like shit.

flippertygibbet4 · 13/09/2026 09:04

She's not worth holding on to because she's not a true friend. Her behaviour is awful and not at all normal. No friend treats another friend like that. It's appalling that she behaved like that in front of the children, just horrific. What message are you giving them by remaining friends with someone as abusive as she is? You deserve so much more in a friendship. I would absolutely let her go. Yes she may have reasons for her behaviour but that is not yout concern nor your responsibility. Don't be friends with someone as abusive as this simply so you have a "friend". Make new friends through clubs, volunteering etc etc. Good luck OP x

Blueberrybonanza · 13/09/2026 09:04

I voted the wrong way and cant change it. I don't understand why you carried on with the day after the petrol station, I would have got the kids out then and personally threatened her with the police if she didn't let you all out. She sounds unhinged, having no friends has to be better than this.

Yewlez · 13/09/2026 09:03

It's time to let her go. Her behaviour is unacceptable and your kids shouldn't be subjected to that.

ArtfulPinkBird · 13/09/2026 09:03

You do not need people like this around your kids. No friends is better than abusive friends.

Purplecatshopaholic · 13/09/2026 09:03

Personally I’d be stepping waaaaay back from this friendship. She’s got a problem, knows it, and refuses to do anything about it. Maybe see her alone occasionally if you must - I wouldn’t - but don’t subject your kids to her shit.

LakieLady · 13/09/2026 08:59

She sounds like a fruit loop and she behaved appallingly, so I'd bin her off.

However, your not being even nearly ready to leave at the agreed time is really rude and would have pissed me right off.

VulnerableSleeve · 13/09/2026 08:59

PretzelPretzel · 13/09/2026 08:37

I just want to say a massive thank you to everybody that's replied. I went to bed after posting and I am just reading through the replies now.
There is no incoming drip feed. My friend always rages over things that other people find trivial. She acknowledges this, and has lost friends in the past because of it. She refuses to seek help though, and I've always stuck by her because for whatever reason I do care about her. She became almost like a family member.
My children and myself don't always make her wait if she's picking us up no. She said her reaction was a trigger from waiting for a previous friend who used to take the piss out of her 🙆‍♀️
I feel really hurt and disappointed a week later. My children said that they weren't scared, but totally uncomfortable, as was I.
I realise that I should have gotten us all out at the petrol garage, but we were in the middle of nowhere and I wasn't thinking rationally after being raged at out of nowhere.

Your friend sounds unhinged. Please avoid her going forward, you would be unreasonable to risk putting yourself and the kids at risk of her angry outbursts even one more time. That would be a firm block and delete if a friend did that to me and mine even one time. Absolute psychotic behaviour from her. Your poor kids enduring that.

Theonethatlurks · 13/09/2026 08:56

PretzelPretzel · 13/09/2026 08:22

Nothing much to add. She is a willing participant in all of our outings. She's almost been like an auntie to my children.
She's lovely in public, and her colleagues all think she's wonderful, but I've seen multiple rages. I'm talking about little things she rages over too. Another example is when she was at mine, and she'd left her empty glass on the floor for hours. I wanted to tidy up and asked her politely to pick the glass up. I was told not yet. I asked again, and was told that she'd do it when she wanted to. I told her that I wanted it off of the floor now as I was tidying up, then she just exploded in a rage telling me that I had no right to demean her by repeatedly "demanding" her to pick a glass up. She sat in a sulk for about 10 minutes after that, then announced that she was going home. She still didn't pick her glass up.
I guess stupidly, I always accepted her outbursts because I was never in danger, and it was always over something so ridiculous. I know that it's her, not me.

Maybe she has PDA and is just good at masking in public.

CaptainMyCaptain · 13/09/2026 08:54

Sandunesandseashells · 13/09/2026 08:46

This - from this point on you were hostages because you were no longer there by free will. I too, do not understand why you did not take the opportunity to leave at the garage, Surely you could have got a taxi home?

I don't know where the OP lives but city dwellers on MN seem unable to envisage a situation where taxis are not easily available.

Passaggressfedup · 13/09/2026 08:52

If you still care for the friendship, let her know that the second she loses her cool, you will step away, end of.

In this instance, it would have been as soon as she started raising her voice when you got in the car. That might make her think.

saraclara · 13/09/2026 08:52

I did politely suggest to her that she seek help, because her rage is getting worse. She outright refused, and told me that she doesn't need help and that she'll never change! She doesn't see the problem. She thinks her rages are justified.

Then you can't risk this happening again.

How are your children now? How do they feel and would they still want her in their lives?

Cherrysoup · 13/09/2026 08:52

PretzelPretzel · 13/09/2026 08:22

Nothing much to add. She is a willing participant in all of our outings. She's almost been like an auntie to my children.
She's lovely in public, and her colleagues all think she's wonderful, but I've seen multiple rages. I'm talking about little things she rages over too. Another example is when she was at mine, and she'd left her empty glass on the floor for hours. I wanted to tidy up and asked her politely to pick the glass up. I was told not yet. I asked again, and was told that she'd do it when she wanted to. I told her that I wanted it off of the floor now as I was tidying up, then she just exploded in a rage telling me that I had no right to demean her by repeatedly "demanding" her to pick a glass up. She sat in a sulk for about 10 minutes after that, then announced that she was going home. She still didn't pick her glass up.
I guess stupidly, I always accepted her outbursts because I was never in danger, and it was always over something so ridiculous. I know that it's her, not me.

I cannot believe you have allowed her to treat you like this. You pay petrol, entrance fees, just because she drives you? You tolerate her screaming at you and abusing you repeatedly? What the hell! You are demonstrating an awful doormat behaviour to your dc. Do you want them abused in future relationships? Because that’s what it is, abuse. She’s horrible, no way would I have her in my child’s life.

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