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AIBU to snap after my husband compared me to his sister-in-law?

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SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 22:25

My husband and I had a fight last night which turned into a long talking session about our marital issues, our insecurities, and what we feel we are missing in a partner.

To his credit he really did listen and try to understand my pov, but what hurt is he kept comparing me to his brother's wife. Every example of what he wanted somehow went back to his brother and SIL. She is funny, she can take a joke, she doesn't worry about little things, she doesnt nag his brother (lmao they have a housekeeper) She is sweet, and thoughtful, and doesn't whine (again she has a housekeeper/cook, no mortgage, a nanny)

This was all prompted by recently traveling with them for a family wedding, but I find it extremely strange because we are almost no contact with them (and I didn't attend the wedding for that reason). This woman does not like us. She calls me trash and says we aren't allowed in her house. She will not speak to my husband directly, and doesn't want our children to play with her daughter. He and his brother speak maybe once or twice a year.

I finally snapped and offered to call her and tell her he wants her. He was mortified and said i was being ridiculous. I said no, we should tell her and let her decide. Then I asked what he thought he had to offer her. She married the taller better looking brother. She has expensive taste and is used to all of the fancy dinners and lavish trips his brother can provide, but hey maybe she feels like slumming it.

I told him he is right. Any man would want her. She is gorgeous, so lets call her up and ask if she would ever want him. He actually teared up and said I was being extremely cruel and what I said was unforgivable. He said he was just using her as an example and I'm a terrible person.

I'm tired of coddling his feelings. I'm tired of being compared to some fantasy dream girl

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CheeryOP · 13/09/2026 05:22

Your DH was in the wrong for comparing you to your SIL. You were in the wrong for comparing his appearance and success to his brother. She may have overreacted, but you were in the wrong for putting her child in time out when this isn't something they do at home and you should have apologised for this.

Peakyblinder18 · 13/09/2026 04:51

Cherryicecreamx · 13/09/2026 01:01

Is this the same guy who posted a photograph of you sleeping and then said why can't you take a joke, like his brother's wife can?!

I was thinking that too

Scottishskifun · 13/09/2026 04:46

Whilst I get that your hurt and upset, you have also lashed out pretty strongly and tried to hurt your husband in return with your words.
That's not healthy.

Maybe sit down and talk calmly but you both need to apologise to each other first.

SassyNavyHam · 13/09/2026 04:38

BoredZelda · 13/09/2026 04:35

You said your SIL would be “slumming it” by going with your husband because his brother is better than him? That’s a vicious thing to say, no matter how annoyed you were. You sound quite toxic.

no because my husband couldn't afford her lifestyle, the hired help, 2-3 international trips a year, the cartier jewelry she "collects"

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BoredZelda · 13/09/2026 04:35

You said your SIL would be “slumming it” by going with your husband because his brother is better than him? That’s a vicious thing to say, no matter how annoyed you were. You sound quite toxic.

GingerdeadMan · 13/09/2026 03:41

You don't sound as though you even like each other.

Comparing your partner to someone else (as opposed to saying 'i would like it of you did more of x/ less of y") is just a horrible thing to do.

SassyNavyHam · 13/09/2026 03:39

Cherryicecreamx · 13/09/2026 01:01

Is this the same guy who posted a photograph of you sleeping and then said why can't you take a joke, like his brother's wife can?!

yep😕

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SassyNavyHam · 13/09/2026 03:38

GoldenSandy · 13/09/2026 01:27

Timeouts do not work, even for well-adjusted children, this is widely known and has been for some time.

I'm confused as to whether SiL is the survivor of child abuse or your niece?

Boundaries and consequences are the most effective methods of managing poor behaviour.
They need to be directly related to what rule has been broken. Timeouts generally are not a natural consequence to anything. I would have called her parents well before it got to 40 minutes of crying.

Disciplining other people's kids should be limited to safety/risk only. For example playing with fire, trying to run in a road, etc.
Anything beyond this needs to be outlined by the parents and the children need to know you have permission.
For example, close friends of mine have told their DC I have permission to tell them off should I need to (never have, apart from refereeing squabbles that go too far). I would know what their parents would see as appropriate and not assert myself in coming up with my own punishments.

If the behaviour was so poor that you could not cope so needed to cop out of parenting and just put them into blanket isolation, then her parents should have been called for guidance of how they'd like you to deal with it or collection.

Timeout isn't parenting. It teaches them nothing.

SIL was abused as a child and as a result she is terrified to discipline her daughter or tell her no. The time out was because she and my son continued to climb on the couch after being asked to stop, and I'm not going to put him in time out while she has no consequences. I understand it was extremely upsetting for her as she had never been disciplined before

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SassyNavyHam · 13/09/2026 03:36

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 12/09/2026 23:21

you don’t put someone else’s kid in time out. And 40 minutes crying is unforgivable. You need to sort out 1. your parenting, 2. How you treat other people’s kids 3. Apologise to her and your bil for abusing their child and 4. Sort out your relationship with your husband as that bitter sniping is seriously unhealthy.
can you do a parenting course together and have some couples therapy? And do apologise to them, and to your niece. And your son!

come on a 3 minute time out for a 3 year old is not abuse. That is absurd. I couldn't have predicted that the child would cry for 40 minutes, but she had never been left with anyone but a nanny before who had extremely specific instructions, and she had never been disciplined in any way before, so she was understandably confused

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SALaw · 13/09/2026 03:17

Why have you done 2 threads on this?

PinkyFlamingo · 13/09/2026 02:34

MyLimeGuide · 12/09/2026 22:36

Im confused you said she is sweet and lovely then in the next paragraph she doesn't like you, calks you trash and wont let you in the house?! This is all very bizarre

I think this is what her DH is saying about SIL not OP.

AcrossthePond55 · 13/09/2026 02:29

@SassyNavyHam

Well, let's just say I'm more on your side than his, if sides there must be. But yes, neither of you covered yourself in glory.

First off, how the fuck does he know how SiL is behind closed doors? Obvs she doesn't nag her DH in public, naturally she puts on her sweetest face and best behaviour when around others, who doesn't? But behind closed doors she could nag your BiL about 1000 different things that have nothing to do with housework, DiY, or childcare or anything else that most of us without staff 'nag' about. Chances are all he knows is what BiL tells him and who is going to air that dirty laundry to your 'golden' brother? So your H (not so D right now) was ignorant and foolish to use her as an example.

What you said was really not necessary, but I sure as hell understand why you said it. If he can compare you to a 'goddess', then you can compare him to a 'god' I guess.

But here's the thing, it's pretty obvious that your marriage isn't all rainbows and ponies. You (both of you) need to separately take a good hard look at your marriage, where it is now and where you want it to go. Then once each of you have figured that out, you need to sit down and have a serious discussion about your future together.

JMSA · 13/09/2026 02:29

I feel your relationship is dead in the water.
You’re no good for each other.

FriendlyMedusa · 13/09/2026 02:22

I'm not going to pretend it was the healthy option, but your DH sure had that coming.

Reading the update that she once took a swing at you makes it even worse.

MoodyMargaret11 · 13/09/2026 02:12

GoldenSandy · 13/09/2026 01:27

Timeouts do not work, even for well-adjusted children, this is widely known and has been for some time.

I'm confused as to whether SiL is the survivor of child abuse or your niece?

Boundaries and consequences are the most effective methods of managing poor behaviour.
They need to be directly related to what rule has been broken. Timeouts generally are not a natural consequence to anything. I would have called her parents well before it got to 40 minutes of crying.

Disciplining other people's kids should be limited to safety/risk only. For example playing with fire, trying to run in a road, etc.
Anything beyond this needs to be outlined by the parents and the children need to know you have permission.
For example, close friends of mine have told their DC I have permission to tell them off should I need to (never have, apart from refereeing squabbles that go too far). I would know what their parents would see as appropriate and not assert myself in coming up with my own punishments.

If the behaviour was so poor that you could not cope so needed to cop out of parenting and just put them into blanket isolation, then her parents should have been called for guidance of how they'd like you to deal with it or collection.

Timeout isn't parenting. It teaches them nothing.

So why is it that childminders employ this method so much- to OTHER people's kids? Surely because it is recognized as a normal, healthy way to de escalate, also known as reflective, thinking time. The daughter didn't get hurt in any way, she sounds spoiled if anything and parents very OTT.

MoodyMargaret11 · 13/09/2026 02:08

Ponoka7 · 12/09/2026 23:51

@Isittimeformynapyet you don't do it to other people's children who aren't used to it. Especially if the OP went with the age=time, that has to be built up over time.

Oh ok, fine for the nutter SIL to take a swing at OP, call her trash etc just because her kid got time out?
Guess that's not EXCESSIVE!

GoldenSandy · 13/09/2026 01:33

Cherryicecreamx · 13/09/2026 01:01

Is this the same guy who posted a photograph of you sleeping and then said why can't you take a joke, like his brother's wife can?!

Oh God this is awful. Relationships should end when it gets to the stage where there is no respect. Some of the the things I'm reading here show such a deep level of disgust and complete lack of care for the other person.

GoldenSandy · 13/09/2026 01:27

SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 23:13

She thinks my in laws are trash because they beat her husband a lot growing up for ADHD behaviors and dyslexia. I do not disagree with her, but she seems to think my husband who is two years older than him was supposed to do something and stop their parents. She feels my husband was the golden child (he was but he never asked for it) and that he bullied his brother (they bullied each other) and that now that he has money everyone wants some.

She tolerated us but clearly didn't like us and then there was an incident with her daughter. She was also abused as a child and her and BIL are extremely overprotective. We were watching their daughter (which i know was extremely hard for her) and she got put in time out (along with my son) My niece was confused by this because she has never been disciplined before and she cried the rest of the evening (only about 40 minutes until her mom came) When SIL heard she lost her mind. She didn't listen to anyone else's version of events and she actually tried to swing at me and BIL had to drag her out. Since then we are not allowed in her house or to have any direct contact with her child.

Timeouts do not work, even for well-adjusted children, this is widely known and has been for some time.

I'm confused as to whether SiL is the survivor of child abuse or your niece?

Boundaries and consequences are the most effective methods of managing poor behaviour.
They need to be directly related to what rule has been broken. Timeouts generally are not a natural consequence to anything. I would have called her parents well before it got to 40 minutes of crying.

Disciplining other people's kids should be limited to safety/risk only. For example playing with fire, trying to run in a road, etc.
Anything beyond this needs to be outlined by the parents and the children need to know you have permission.
For example, close friends of mine have told their DC I have permission to tell them off should I need to (never have, apart from refereeing squabbles that go too far). I would know what their parents would see as appropriate and not assert myself in coming up with my own punishments.

If the behaviour was so poor that you could not cope so needed to cop out of parenting and just put them into blanket isolation, then her parents should have been called for guidance of how they'd like you to deal with it or collection.

Timeout isn't parenting. It teaches them nothing.

SmolTiny · 13/09/2026 01:20

Sounds like he's had this coming.
I would tell him that he can fuck off for himself and go try it on with her if he wants.

If he has been posting photos of you sleeping or whatever, that's really, really horrible.

Doesn't sound like there is much that can be salvaged here.
I'd be getting a divorce and he can fuck off and go chase his supermodel.
There's something wrong with him and he would no longer be my long term project to sort out.

GoldenSandy · 13/09/2026 01:10

SassyNavyHam · 12/09/2026 22:25

My husband and I had a fight last night which turned into a long talking session about our marital issues, our insecurities, and what we feel we are missing in a partner.

To his credit he really did listen and try to understand my pov, but what hurt is he kept comparing me to his brother's wife. Every example of what he wanted somehow went back to his brother and SIL. She is funny, she can take a joke, she doesn't worry about little things, she doesnt nag his brother (lmao they have a housekeeper) She is sweet, and thoughtful, and doesn't whine (again she has a housekeeper/cook, no mortgage, a nanny)

This was all prompted by recently traveling with them for a family wedding, but I find it extremely strange because we are almost no contact with them (and I didn't attend the wedding for that reason). This woman does not like us. She calls me trash and says we aren't allowed in her house. She will not speak to my husband directly, and doesn't want our children to play with her daughter. He and his brother speak maybe once or twice a year.

I finally snapped and offered to call her and tell her he wants her. He was mortified and said i was being ridiculous. I said no, we should tell her and let her decide. Then I asked what he thought he had to offer her. She married the taller better looking brother. She has expensive taste and is used to all of the fancy dinners and lavish trips his brother can provide, but hey maybe she feels like slumming it.

I told him he is right. Any man would want her. She is gorgeous, so lets call her up and ask if she would ever want him. He actually teared up and said I was being extremely cruel and what I said was unforgivable. He said he was just using her as an example and I'm a terrible person.

I'm tired of coddling his feelings. I'm tired of being compared to some fantasy dream girl

I can't decide which of you is more unreasonable. I think it might be you.

He's unreasonable and possibly misogynistic for comparing you to someone who isn't made to do the lion's share of the domestic tasks because she outsources it. And certainly nobody would nag if their partner pulled their weight.

BUT I think you crossed a line.

He's bang out of order for what he said but what he said could have been challenged in order to improve the relationship dynamic, especially as I assume this comparison is a recent snub towards you. This could have been worked on in marriage counselling or him educating himself (if willing) on the invisible labour women take on.

However, what you've said hasn't addressed what he's said, and instead is incredibly cruel. I pretty much always take the woman's side in these disputes, but I don't think there's any coming back from what you've said. Either you knew that when you said it and it's your way of ending the marriage, or you've let rip in the moment. Even with the latter, it is clear it's what you really think of him.

He's negatively compared your behaviour to hers, you've insulted and reduced his self-worth and core sense of who he is, his values, the way he looks, the person he is. Effectively stuff he can't change and stuff which will have been the case when you met him (better looking brother, that you're slumming it by being with him etc), which suggests you've always thought it.

It's like the difference between saying a child is being naughty Vs a child being told they are a naughty boy/girl.

Once you're separated you will forget about his criticisms of you. SiL will be a stranger.
I suspect what you've said of him will be something which deeply affects him forever.

Cherryicecreamx · 13/09/2026 01:01

Is this the same guy who posted a photograph of you sleeping and then said why can't you take a joke, like his brother's wife can?!

Giraffehaver · 13/09/2026 01:01

You both seem to get off on hurting each other. Is there any mileage left in this marriage?

PressTheSwitch · 13/09/2026 00:58

@SassyNavyHam your H is jealous of his younger brother, and he’s expressing this to you as ‘he even got the girl!’.

One reason he likes her, is because she doesn’t sweat the little things. After swinging for you, I am assuming he agrees with her that putting her child in Time Out shouldn’t have happened, otherwise with it being a non-event she wouldn’t have batted an eye lid.

Maybe he also agrees that his family are trashy for one reason or another (beatings etc..) and his brother has managed to break free from this and he fees he didn’t. Not very nice of him but you can’t help how you feel I suppose.

vanillaalmondlatte · 13/09/2026 00:48

YANBU. He deserved what he got. Maybe that will teach him not to compare you to other women!

Doubledenim305 · 13/09/2026 00:34

Paradoes · 12/09/2026 22:34

I think the marriage is over

What! Hardly 🙄