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To want to know why I feel so tired/ill all the time!!

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Bamboozle30001 · 12/09/2026 18:22

I'm 41, 5ft 7in 12 stone and I strength train for half an hour 4 days a week. I do under 20k steps due to being a cleaner 5 days a week. I eat very well and log my food on myfitnesspal.

Last week doctors thought my gallbladder was inflamed but, bloods, urine and a further physical exam all came back fine. Then why for the love of God am I am ALWAYS tired?Energy drinks or black coffee do nothing. I sleep for 8 hours.

I'd had a previous blood test a few weeks back as I suspected perimenopause but apart from high reading of b12...which I have no idea where that came from as I don't eat much in the way of the foods mentioned that are fortified, or take vitamin supplements either. I do have fibroids, but still I constantly feel tired and just generally unwell. Like the feeling that you're coming down with a cold, just run down all the bastard time.

Would it be worth getting a private doctor and see if there's any other tests or something because I am fed up of feeling like this.

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Delatron · 14/09/2026 13:16

pastadish · 14/09/2026 09:19

My dd had been diagnosed eds we went to a private rheumatologist as waiting lists are about 2 years, and he did a few checks on her hands and said she’s hyper mobile and said it’s likely eds.
She is hyper mobile but not as much as I am and I was surprised at the diagnosis.
It was actually our second appointment and she was scanned for rheumatoid arthritis and other tests.

We would be the other way round to you and your dd. I am probably a 9/9 and she would probably be a 5 but i don’t have eds symptoms.
She also has fibromyalgia, under active thyroid and probably pots and mcas, we are in the process of investigating pots and although the mcas test came back negative it was taken in it straight after a flare so im not sure the result is totally accurate but trying to get anyone to listen is like banging my head off the wall.

A lot of these conditions are also linked to and have an overlap with ADHD/neurodiversity. Which causes awful fatigue as your nervous system is on high alert much more than neurotypical people. Plus the masking etc.

It’s actually fascinating how all these conditions can be linked - see also ADHD and POTS, MCAS, CFS,
Long Covid..

I have ADHD and have basically been tired my whole life! I need a lot more sleep than most (which I don’t get). I used to marvel at how much energy other people had. Having kids then perimenopause made it worse.

OP you are still doing 4 hours of a physical job each day then strength training 4 times a week then looking after kids? Plus normal life. Your body doesn’t distinguish between the activities.

I’m only saying this as I have a physical job (fitness instructor) and I completely underestimated the impact it had on me and I would layer other activities on top (dog walking, running…). I exhausted myself (and ended up with long Covid). You need proper rest. We need to give ourselves permission to rest.

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 13:16

WhyGetInvolved · 14/09/2026 13:12

I think it’s likely that you’re not eating enough food. Which will sound counter intuitive when you’re trying to lose weight. But your activity levels are high, when plugged into a tdee calculator (google it) your maintenance calories will be close to 2200-2500. So you’re in a large deficit for a long time, which is not conducive to feeling good. If I were you I’d gradually increase by a couple of hundred calories, carbs probably, and eat at maintenance for 3 months while maintaining your activity.
Then you can judge how you really feel.
I don’t know anyone who feels energised in a calorie deficit long term.

Look up @dr.jennale on tik tok for more on this.

I have tried increasing calories but then I gain weight. I have tried everything. Wli was the only thing that got rid of the extra weight from having a child. I was doing exactly what i do now in terms of fitness but before the wli i was either overeating as suggested or undereating or just plain starving myself. I think the past week in terms of eating while foods bar the waffles and energy drink i have been feeling fuller. And i am.down 1lb so far. I must get ready for second job. Looking forward to seeing ds too. He has been given a school council role...after much asking it turns out his plan is to ask the headteacher for a toy we wouldn't buy him.

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WhyGetInvolved · 14/09/2026 13:12

I think it’s likely that you’re not eating enough food. Which will sound counter intuitive when you’re trying to lose weight. But your activity levels are high, when plugged into a tdee calculator (google it) your maintenance calories will be close to 2200-2500. So you’re in a large deficit for a long time, which is not conducive to feeling good. If I were you I’d gradually increase by a couple of hundred calories, carbs probably, and eat at maintenance for 3 months while maintaining your activity.
Then you can judge how you really feel.
I don’t know anyone who feels energised in a calorie deficit long term.

Look up @dr.jennale on tik tok for more on this.

wiredandtired · 14/09/2026 13:10

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:54

I probably havent explained my jobs well but i really dont do much. I clean for 2 hours innthe morning, then i go home, take our son tonschool or dh does if hes wfh. Then i exercise, sit on my arse, have lunch,then a shower then leave for another 2 hour cleaning job then go home, have dinner, sit, then put ds to bed then i go to sleep.

That's still 4 hours of cleaning, plus exercise, plus a 5 year old.

I don't mean to be patronising or write off your concerns, but also are you sure you have realistic expectations for being in your early 40's...?

Life is bloody knackering!

Perimenopause is definitely worth looking into though and if you feel a doctor is fobbing you off then ask for another until you are taken seriously. It's well known now that it can start in late 30's/ early 40's!

Olivetree77 · 14/09/2026 13:08

What are you eating to support your gut microbiome? I would be looking to support this given your issues with bowel movements. I may be wrong but from your early posts it looked like you were not getting many fermented foods or fibre. I would fix this before introducing any supplements.

DontEatTheMushies · 14/09/2026 13:00

Bamboozle30001 · 12/09/2026 18:22

I'm 41, 5ft 7in 12 stone and I strength train for half an hour 4 days a week. I do under 20k steps due to being a cleaner 5 days a week. I eat very well and log my food on myfitnesspal.

Last week doctors thought my gallbladder was inflamed but, bloods, urine and a further physical exam all came back fine. Then why for the love of God am I am ALWAYS tired?Energy drinks or black coffee do nothing. I sleep for 8 hours.

I'd had a previous blood test a few weeks back as I suspected perimenopause but apart from high reading of b12...which I have no idea where that came from as I don't eat much in the way of the foods mentioned that are fortified, or take vitamin supplements either. I do have fibroids, but still I constantly feel tired and just generally unwell. Like the feeling that you're coming down with a cold, just run down all the bastard time.

Would it be worth getting a private doctor and see if there's any other tests or something because I am fed up of feeling like this.

I could have written that! I lost so far 40kg as they said losing weight would help.
Nope, still tired, in fact MORE tired. More sore. I fall asleep at the drop of a hat.
Bloods all normal - well in normal range. I have MTFR, as well as an autoimmue condition and genetic condition - all cause fatigue.
I do take supplements, so they are normal WITH these.
I am also on MJ for the weight loss - which even in a deficit is not losing me any.

They didn't check my T3 though...so I might ask about that as THAT is the one that actually fuels you.

With MTHFR the conversion of t4 to t3 is impaired - which results in general BLEUGH ness.

Curlyhairedsheep · 14/09/2026 13:00

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 14/09/2026 10:05

Most food intolerance tests are utter rubbish. Food diary and elimination diet is the only reliable option if you suspect you have one.

That is true, but these are good. They help identify what you might need to eliminate, I wouldn’t have known without doing it but 12 weeks elimination diet was a challenge!

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:57

Ilovecheeseyah · 14/09/2026 12:53

Check thyroid please. Also what are you doing to alight your soul
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What do you mean?

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Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:55

And i do strength workouts on home on youtube. Im not going to a gym. Can't afford that, nor do i like workouts in front of other people.

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Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:54

wiredandtired · 14/09/2026 12:50

If you drink too much water your body will just dispose of it in the normal way. I wouldn't worry about that.

As an above poster said - you have a full on physical job, a 5 year old, and you are strength training 4 x a week.

That is a pretty exhausting life and you are in your early 40's... you may be perimenopausal. It could be that your life is just full on, combined with your age/ hormones.

I probably havent explained my jobs well but i really dont do much. I clean for 2 hours innthe morning, then i go home, take our son tonschool or dh does if hes wfh. Then i exercise, sit on my arse, have lunch,then a shower then leave for another 2 hour cleaning job then go home, have dinner, sit, then put ds to bed then i go to sleep.

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Ilovecheeseyah · 14/09/2026 12:53

Check thyroid please. Also what are you doing to alight your soul
x

wiredandtired · 14/09/2026 12:50

Bamboozle30001 · 13/09/2026 07:45

Ok I'll drop a litre today. I don't eat much sugar. Im still convinced theres something going on with my gallbladder as it hurts still.

If you drink too much water your body will just dispose of it in the normal way. I wouldn't worry about that.

As an above poster said - you have a full on physical job, a 5 year old, and you are strength training 4 x a week.

That is a pretty exhausting life and you are in your early 40's... you may be perimenopausal. It could be that your life is just full on, combined with your age/ hormones.

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:46

Thank you all for your suggestions. I have been tired pretty much all my life haha. Having a child made it worse and im lucky to have a very involved dh with our son. He has and still does the lions share for caring for ds, such as playing and bath time etc. I had pnd but I have missed out on so much time to bond with ds as ive been tired. I dont have the energy to play with him much at all and for the last few weeks of summer holidays he just sat watching telly whilst playing with his toys.

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Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:42

Nameynamechange21 · 14/09/2026 12:37

Honestly do not underestimate perimenopause. I did and was much like you from 41-45. Started HRT and my god the difference is very noticeable in energy levels.

I'll have to buy it online somehow as i have mentioned to doctors i suspect it is but get told no. My periods have always been heavy but since having our ds, i have to wear incontinence nappies when im on. I have fibroids but my periods used to last for a week, now they last 4 or 5 days. I have 2 or 3 days of flooding then it goes.

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Nameynamechange21 · 14/09/2026 12:39

Bamboozle30001 · 13/09/2026 09:58

My periods are starting a few days earlier and are heavier and a day or two shorter now. But when i told the doctor this i was told no periods get lighter when going through perimenopause%menopause. Again young female doctor....

Also that wasn’t my experience at all. My experience was my periods became a bloodbath needing medication to stop them as I was also bleeding for weeks at a time.

Please speak to your GP about perimenopause and just because they are young doesn’t mean you’ll get fobbed off. All the symptoms you describe sound so similar to the ones I had.

VividDeer · 14/09/2026 12:37

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 10:02

Thank you so much

Yes this ... ferrous fumarate is not expensive to buy.

Nameynamechange21 · 14/09/2026 12:37

Honestly do not underestimate perimenopause. I did and was much like you from 41-45. Started HRT and my god the difference is very noticeable in energy levels.

backformoreofthesame · 14/09/2026 12:34

The iron won’t absorb - better to have orange juice

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:32

anotheruser345 · 14/09/2026 12:31

Just make sure you dont have the coffee within an hour of the iron tablets. Its best to take the iron first thing then wait at least an hour for coffee or tea.

Shit..... Im having a second cuppa now. Whats gonna happen will I get the runs or something?

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anotheruser345 · 14/09/2026 12:31

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:26

I had a black coffee instead of my pipeline punch though.

Just make sure you dont have the coffee within an hour of the iron tablets. Its best to take the iron first thing then wait at least an hour for coffee or tea.

Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:26

I had a black coffee instead of my pipeline punch though.

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Bamboozle30001 · 14/09/2026 12:26

I feel ok today. Ive just taken the iron tablets i got from amazon, along with the ones i got from the shop (i had those this morning) and Im feeling pretty good. Lunch I had lettuce, tomatoes, avocado woth 2% fat mince and a dijon mustard dressing with some full fat greek yoghurt.

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Whynottryagain · 14/09/2026 10:20

You poor thing, you sound very overwhelmed and ping-ponging from hoped-for-solution to hoped-for-solution.

I'd write a list of all the suggestions and then order them by most likely / easiest to implement.

Personally I would

  • cut out energy drinks. I know people who drank a lot of them as students and felt much better when they gave them up. Sorry. Even if not the ultimate cause, they are terrible for you. I'd find something else to view as a treat.
  • I'd cut out caffeine in general, as it is known to increase anxiety, so I wonder if you'd feel less anxious without it. I know several people who felt much less anxious when they cut it out. Hopefully also improved iron adsorption and improved sleep.
  • reduce water intake to 1.5-2l per day.
  • Start an iron supplement take with a satsuma/vitamin C source.

After that,

  • I'd swap 0% yoghurt to full fat Greek yoghurt as 0% is upf with added junk.
  • I'd cut out protein powder (or at least check the ingredients - some has a lot of sugar and unknown stuff added).
  • breakfast can be anything you like if it's not upf. So full fat Greek yoghurt with chopped fruit on top. Left over chicken from dinner. Peanut butter on toast. Porridge. Eggs and nuts. Any food can be breakfast food!

After that, if I still felt the same, I'd be exploring further testing.

Namechangefordaughterevasion · 14/09/2026 10:11

Cut out caffeine. It's incredibly addictive - the short lived energy burst it supplies fades very quickly. You then slump and crave more caffeine until your next hit. It's a vicious circle.

Expect awful withdrawal headaches for the first few days.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 14/09/2026 10:05

Curlyhairedsheep · 13/09/2026 15:05

Have you tried a food intolerance test? I did one through York Laboratories. Turns out I’m I tolerant to the protein in dairy and because my body can’t process it properly I was so tired. Might be worth a try. I couldn’t understand why I was so tired as I did all the right things as well.

Most food intolerance tests are utter rubbish. Food diary and elimination diet is the only reliable option if you suspect you have one.

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