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AIBU to feel used in a friends with benefits arrangement?

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AdeptLilacHare · 12/09/2026 11:38

I just wanted someone to shed some light on FWB situations. So, I’ve met this guy 3 times now just for sex, nothing more. But literally we just meet for sex, there’s texting up until and around the actual meet mainly just trying to find when we’re both free, who’s hosting etc. then we meet for sex then nothing. No text after, no casual conversation in between nothing at all. Then in about 2/3 weeks I’ll get a “when are you next free” text
I have to clarify I’ve never done this before I’ve always had relationships which is obviously completely different and I aware that I shouldn’t expect much more than casual sex which is fine. But, literally just sex and no actual chatting or hanging out in between is making me feel a little used. I’m unsure how to feel do I just accept this for what it is, what’s everyone’s experiences on similar situations? Am I just expecting too much for something that’s supposed to be casual?

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Newbutoldfather · 14/09/2026 07:21

@TotaleclipseinFrance ,

‘I don't think you have any deep understanding of female nature at all. In fact I think you know very little.’

You thought about me all night just to have a go at a personal attack on an anonymous site?! I mean, whatever floats your boat, but it seems a little odd.

I don’t think I have claimed some special knowledge about ‘female nature’, other than there isn’t an identikit and they are actual individuals and we should probably take them at their word.

‘In fact he's probably witnessed the dark side of female nature.
Women sleeping with him on their hen night.
I didn't do this. I didn't even have a hen night. But, yes, I've seen this happen when I've been on hen nights.’

OMG, stop the press! Drunk women sometimes have drunken sex with strangers. Not sure I’d call that a ‘dark side’, other than our drinking culture.

’Since she has revealed that he has given her an orgasm and the sex is mind-blowing it it patently obvious that she wants more now. Patently obvious.’

Now, in addition to attacking me, you have decided to have a go at the OP (and women in general) and call the OP a liar. She said the sex was good, not mind blowing. And he gave her an orgasm. Orgasms aren’t that rare nor most women that desperate that they are instantly addicted to a man who has given her one; they’re not crack cocaine. She has said that she has blocked him. What, precisely, don’t you understand about that?

‘I suspect that you're one of those men always ready to be the shoulder to cry on for your female friends but not really reading between the lines with a cynical ear.’

I’m not sure that is much of a criticism, really. Why would I want to ‘read between the lines’ of someone who wants support and comfort? Are you middle aged woman still addicted to ‘bad boys’?

Watermelonyea · 14/09/2026 07:21

Sartre · 14/09/2026 07:17

To me it sounds like he indeed has a wife or girlfriend at home and I think likely blocked/muted you between fucks. When he had some free time away from his partner he’d message you for sex then not contact you till he fancied it again. Not nice to think of if this way but you were essentially a free sex worker.

Could it not just be that he met the Op, doesn’t want to pursue any kind of relationship, not interested in her in any shape or form but just fancies off meet up for purely sex when he has nothing better to do (hence every few weeks)?

Sartre · 14/09/2026 07:17

To me it sounds like he indeed has a wife or girlfriend at home and I think likely blocked/muted you between fucks. When he had some free time away from his partner he’d message you for sex then not contact you till he fancied it again. Not nice to think of if this way but you were essentially a free sex worker.

TotaleclipseinFrance · 14/09/2026 07:13

YourGoldLurker · 14/09/2026 00:00

Pretty sure he's done this to plenty other women. He's a player

And an extremely good one.
He understands women.
Don't get too close to a fuckbuddy/fwb being a rule he very, very wisely lives by.

TotaleclipseinFrance · 14/09/2026 07:10

AdeptLilacHare · 14/09/2026 00:06

Exactly this.
I seem to keep being told I’m wrong for expecting some very basic level of conversation.
I like to meet lots of people and chat with them that definitely doesn’t end with someone I’m having regular sex with but that also doesn’t mean I want a relationship just because I expect us to get on and be able to talk, flirt and bond like you say.
Not just lets fuck and be on our way. Me, personally I hate that

For goodness sake, the entire point of a fwb/fb situation is that there is no bonding.

Watermelonyea · 14/09/2026 07:08

AdeptLilacHare · 13/09/2026 22:29

I don’t think it has been at all.
I asked for some insight from other people who may have been in similar situations and got many people’s different perspectives and personal experiences. It’s been very insightful and educational

I meant for the rest of us

Watermelonyea · 14/09/2026 07:07

If you are as clear about what you want in RL as you have been on this thread @AdeptLilacHare , no wonder he got the wrong end of the stick.

TotaleclipseinFrance · 14/09/2026 07:02

Newbutoldfather · 13/09/2026 15:58

@TotaleclipseinFrance ,

‘You may very well do that doesn't mean you know anything about female nature, though.’

I mean I can’t empathise in the way another woman would. However, I am well read and do actually talk to women in an open way and listen to what they say.

‘Clearly while it is totally proper to treat men and women as individuals in some regards, there is no doubt that there are indeed significant differences between the sexes which nobody could deny.’

I wouldn’t try to deny that, although the intra sex variation is also significant, so some women act more like traditional men and some men act more like traditional women.

’The OP clearly feels used and this guy clearly is out for a quick shag and there are indeed men who aren't that fussy about who they shag. No disrespect to the OP meant here.’

But she doesn’t feel used because he only wants a sexual relationship. She wants the same thing. The only reason she feels used is that he can’t even be bothered with basic manners. She has repeatedly said that, and yet you try to put some stereotype on her and insist she wants a deep relationship! This is where you are totally failing to treat her as an individual.

I don't think you have any deep understanding of female nature at all. In fact I think you know very little.

In my opinion, This 'fuckboy' here, as rude as he is, has more of a clue than you do.
In fact he's probably witnessed the dark side of female nature.
Women sleeping with him on their hen night.
I didn't do this. I didn't even have a hen night. But, yes, I've seen this happen when I've been on hen nights.
I've witnessed women going off to have sex with men within minutes of meeting them while their doting, dutiful, kind and decent, always listens to them, but boring husband is at home with the children.

Since she has revealed that he has given her an orgasm and the sex is mind-blowing it it patently obvious that she wants more now. Patently obvious.

This is how most women are.

And if they are not well so what that he's not texting every 5 seconds, the sex more than makes up for it.

I suspect that you're one of those men always ready to be the shoulder to cry on for your female friends but not really reading between the lines with a cynical ear.

PegLegJim · 14/09/2026 06:07

Sounds like you are missing the friends part. Were you friends first? Do you message him and he doesn't reply? You are both sorting a need you both have, but it's one sided. You need to connect on an emotional level to. Find someone else, someone who makes time for you

Fiddy1964 · 14/09/2026 04:50

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 12/09/2026 11:40

That’s not friendship with sex, is it? It’s sex without friendship.

Sounds like its sex without payment.

Yankiedoodlebabe · 14/09/2026 00:38

I’ve had this exact arrangement with one man for more than five years now, but this is exactly what I asked for and he obliged. The only time we have pillow talk is during the refractory period in between rounds one and two and if I’m lucky round three! The only texting we do is to make arrangements for our next meeting and occasionally a little dirty talk leading up to the event. A month without any contact at all is normal for us.

If you didn’t define the relationship you really wanted in the beginning then that’s on you. Are you catching feelings and expecting more now? I agree with others that this isn’t FWB, it’s just casual sex.

YourGoldLurker · 14/09/2026 00:35

Circe7 · 14/09/2026 00:26

There are loads of men who want exactly this. No commitment/ relationship but to go out together for drinks or a meal, chat regularly and have sex. If anything, I’d say that the majority of men on online dating would prefer this over anything else. And as a woman looking for fairly casual sex you have loads of choice and can set out exactly what you want.

I have had fwbs where we went for dinner, to concerts, on weekends away and talked about everything and were exclusive. But it wasn’t really a relationship in the traditional sense because it wasn’t progressing anywhere and we only saw each other every few weeks. I’ve had guys where we just had sex but chatted a lot in between. And arrangements in between those two.

I wouldn’t want casual sex with someone who didn’t talk in between and wouldn’t have a drink with me. It wouldn’t do anything for me. But if you’re not looking for a traditional relationship I do think you need to communicate clearly what you’re looking for.

I don't agree. Most of the men I encountered on dating sites were looking for long term and not FWB. Of course FWB suits some people better but plenty of people do want traditional relationships as it were.

Circe7 · 14/09/2026 00:26

Jiggerypokesy · 13/09/2026 23:34

I agree. A lot of people are very black and white about FWB on MN. If you have such a relationship then the man doesn’t even need to have any manners. And if you expect that you’re either naive or deserve what you get.

Personally I think that’s hogwash. I’m sure there are men that don’t want commitment but can manage conversations and the odd drink out. The point with FWB is there’s no development in the relationship; you’re not expecting it to go somewhere or have more commitment over time. It doesn’t mean he gets to treat you like a piece of meat or you him or at least it shouldn’t do.

I just don’t get how it’s sexy with no flirting, laughing, bonding. It’s so transactional. Yuck.

There are loads of men who want exactly this. No commitment/ relationship but to go out together for drinks or a meal, chat regularly and have sex. If anything, I’d say that the majority of men on online dating would prefer this over anything else. And as a woman looking for fairly casual sex you have loads of choice and can set out exactly what you want.

I have had fwbs where we went for dinner, to concerts, on weekends away and talked about everything and were exclusive. But it wasn’t really a relationship in the traditional sense because it wasn’t progressing anywhere and we only saw each other every few weeks. I’ve had guys where we just had sex but chatted a lot in between. And arrangements in between those two.

I wouldn’t want casual sex with someone who didn’t talk in between and wouldn’t have a drink with me. It wouldn’t do anything for me. But if you’re not looking for a traditional relationship I do think you need to communicate clearly what you’re looking for.

Ijustwanttochill · 14/09/2026 00:19

Well from what you've said I am proud of you for blocking him 👏 You are allowed to ask for the bare minimum of respect while still only having casual sex, so well done you!

AdeptLilacHare · 14/09/2026 00:17

Ijustwanttochill · 14/09/2026 00:12

How old is he? We all know men don't mature as quick as us 🤣 Hmm so maybe he does have someone. Do you live in a city, or more rural where everyone tends to know each other? Might be worth doing some digging to see if you have any mutual acquaintances?

He’s 32, definitely not very mature I wouldn’t say.
we live in a city, so like I say it’s definitely possible he could be leading a double life. Not really worth doing any digging, I’ve blocked him now so that’s the end of it. Although I’m definately nosey enough that if someone happened to find out and tell me It would be an “ahh ok it all makes sense” moment

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Ijustwanttochill · 14/09/2026 00:12

AdeptLilacHare · 14/09/2026 00:09

We are a similar age, and yes we live near each other, but I would say far enough for him to possibly have some secret gf/wife, he’s not just just round the corner where I could find out

How old is he? We all know men don't mature as quick as us 🤣 Hmm so maybe he does have someone. Do you live in a city, or more rural where everyone tends to know each other? Might be worth doing some digging to see if you have any mutual acquaintances?

AdeptLilacHare · 14/09/2026 00:09

Ijustwanttochill · 13/09/2026 23:58

Hi, it does sound like he is only after one thing, which I know you don't want anything more serious, but I would totally understand why you would want at the very least some conversation between meet ups! Are you two similar age? If he is younger maybe he is just immature? Do you live near each other? I was thinking maybe he has a partner/wife that he didn't mention and he only contacts you when she is going away?

We are a similar age, and yes we live near each other, but I would say far enough for him to possibly have some secret gf/wife, he’s not just just round the corner where I could find out

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AdeptLilacHare · 14/09/2026 00:07

YourGoldLurker · 14/09/2026 00:00

Pretty sure he's done this to plenty other women. He's a player

Yes, I understand that now it’s very clear unfortunately

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AdeptLilacHare · 14/09/2026 00:06

Jiggerypokesy · 13/09/2026 23:34

I agree. A lot of people are very black and white about FWB on MN. If you have such a relationship then the man doesn’t even need to have any manners. And if you expect that you’re either naive or deserve what you get.

Personally I think that’s hogwash. I’m sure there are men that don’t want commitment but can manage conversations and the odd drink out. The point with FWB is there’s no development in the relationship; you’re not expecting it to go somewhere or have more commitment over time. It doesn’t mean he gets to treat you like a piece of meat or you him or at least it shouldn’t do.

I just don’t get how it’s sexy with no flirting, laughing, bonding. It’s so transactional. Yuck.

Exactly this.
I seem to keep being told I’m wrong for expecting some very basic level of conversation.
I like to meet lots of people and chat with them that definitely doesn’t end with someone I’m having regular sex with but that also doesn’t mean I want a relationship just because I expect us to get on and be able to talk, flirt and bond like you say.
Not just lets fuck and be on our way. Me, personally I hate that

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YourGoldLurker · 14/09/2026 00:00

AdeptLilacHare · 13/09/2026 23:51

I wasn’t forcing him to be interested in my life, he seemed interested in me before we had sex.

we chatted in the phone for about 40mins had a date for about 2 hours and text a lot.

Pretty sure he's done this to plenty other women. He's a player

Ijustwanttochill · 13/09/2026 23:58

Hi, it does sound like he is only after one thing, which I know you don't want anything more serious, but I would totally understand why you would want at the very least some conversation between meet ups! Are you two similar age? If he is younger maybe he is just immature? Do you live near each other? I was thinking maybe he has a partner/wife that he didn't mention and he only contacts you when she is going away?

AdeptLilacHare · 13/09/2026 23:58

YourGoldLurker · 13/09/2026 23:48

My point is you aren't going to establish a connection with someone in three meets. You slept with him the second time you met yes. You didn't know him and he didn't know you. Surely connections take time

Of course connections take time. But you can establish an initial connection with someone, then that connection grows.
As I said I was trying to establish whether this guy was someone I found attractive not just looks wise to have sex with

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AdeptLilacHare · 13/09/2026 23:51

YourGoldLurker · 13/09/2026 23:40

But you said to this guy that's all you wanted. Casual sex. You can't expect to have casual sex and for someone to be invested in your life too. That might be fine if he was a friend to you. A real friend who cares about you. This is some random guy you met on a dating app who is probably sleeping with other women too.

You can't force a complete stranger to be your friend or be interested in your life.

I wasn’t forcing him to be interested in my life, he seemed interested in me before we had sex.

we chatted in the phone for about 40mins had a date for about 2 hours and text a lot.

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YourGoldLurker · 13/09/2026 23:48

AdeptLilacHare · 13/09/2026 23:45

I said I wanted to have casual sex, he agreed. I said I couldnt just have sex with someone I couldn’t get any connection with (basically trying to find out whether this guy wasn’t just some dull, boring prick because I absolutely couldn’t have sex with someone like that) we had a drink we chatted we got on, we also talk on the phone e appt prior (both text and phone call) I found him attractive (physically and personality wise) to have sex with him.

he also agreed he would like to meet up and get to know me before sex.

The phone calls, text and dare made me think it wouldn’t be the end of any form of communication apart form “are you free on whatever day”

I can ask for a connection with someone if that person also said they want a connection which he did.

My point is you aren't going to establish a connection with someone in three meets. You slept with him the second time you met yes. You didn't know him and he didn't know you. Surely connections take time

AdeptLilacHare · 13/09/2026 23:45

YourGoldLurker · 13/09/2026 23:34

You basically made a rod for your own back. You said you were happy to have casual sex then you got upset when it was too casual. This guy is not your friend. He could have been sleeping with five other women and you would never know. You can't ask for a connection for someone who doesn't want it just to make you feel better about no strings sex. He could have a gf for all you know. You know zero about him

I said I wanted to have casual sex, he agreed. I said I couldnt just have sex with someone I couldn’t get any connection with (basically trying to find out whether this guy wasn’t just some dull, boring prick because I absolutely couldn’t have sex with someone like that) we had a drink we chatted we got on, we also talk on the phone e appt prior (both text and phone call) I found him attractive (physically and personality wise) to have sex with him.

he also agreed he would like to meet up and get to know me before sex.

The phone calls, text and dare made me think it wouldn’t be the end of any form of communication apart form “are you free on whatever day”

I can ask for a connection with someone if that person also said they want a connection which he did.

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