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Why do we keep electing politicians who don't represent us

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CurdinHenry · 11/09/2026 21:41

Assisted dying over (unless you're rich enough, of course, suffering only for the poor)

Scotland about to introduce a ban on multibuys for treat foods (no pleasurable snacks for poor people to accompany their no right to a dignified end of life)

The shittest possible version of Brexit (no customs union no passport deals)

Either open borders immigration zealots or no foreigners allowed racist zealots

Where did all the normal sanes go?

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CurdinHenry · 12/09/2026 20:19

GeneralPeter · 12/09/2026 19:13

You can. Have been able to since the 1960s.

This bill was about others killing you.

I’m in principle in favour, but this bill and the legislative process was a farce. It hasn’t worked out that well in Canada. Virtually all disability organisations oppose the bill.

I hope at some point we get a good and safe system for assisted suicide. I don’t think this was it, and the behaviour of “my” side has made me a bit less certain of whether it can be done.

So people should kill themselves early (with all the risk that entails for them and others and the lonely fear of it) because you are unable to make your own choices?

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CurdinHenry · 12/09/2026 20:18

autumnisherenow · 12/09/2026 17:51

What a nasty thing to wish for another human being.

That's what they wish for me. Quid pro quo.

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GeneralPeter · 12/09/2026 19:13

UniquePinkSwan · 12/09/2026 15:10

I’m furious. We should be able to end our lives with dignity when we want

You can. Have been able to since the 1960s.

This bill was about others killing you.

I’m in principle in favour, but this bill and the legislative process was a farce. It hasn’t worked out that well in Canada. Virtually all disability organisations oppose the bill.

I hope at some point we get a good and safe system for assisted suicide. I don’t think this was it, and the behaviour of “my” side has made me a bit less certain of whether it can be done.

GeneralPeter · 12/09/2026 19:07

CurdinHenry · 11/09/2026 21:47

Well I hope you live to experience precisely how ignorant that position is in exquisite detail

But my point was more than most people support assisted dying yet politicians don't

Are you the right person to be asking where the moderate, sensible politics went?

You went from ‘disagrees with me’ to ‘ignorant’ to ‘hope they have a painful death’ in one sentence.

If we want good politics we need to give up that sort of nonsense.

Perhaps we get the politicians we deserve.

Awkwardisfunny · 12/09/2026 18:59

CurdinHenry · 11/09/2026 21:41

Assisted dying over (unless you're rich enough, of course, suffering only for the poor)

Scotland about to introduce a ban on multibuys for treat foods (no pleasurable snacks for poor people to accompany their no right to a dignified end of life)

The shittest possible version of Brexit (no customs union no passport deals)

Either open borders immigration zealots or no foreigners allowed racist zealots

Where did all the normal sanes go?

Who else is there to vote for??

They're all falling from the same tree.

YANBU

Bogliasco · 12/09/2026 17:52

My MP voted for the bill and was disappointed it didn't pass.

I too am sad that politicians have taken away my ability to choose to end my suffering in my own time in my own way.

autumnisherenow · 12/09/2026 17:51

CurdinHenry · 11/09/2026 21:47

Well I hope you live to experience precisely how ignorant that position is in exquisite detail

But my point was more than most people support assisted dying yet politicians don't

What a nasty thing to wish for another human being.

concertinacornflake · 12/09/2026 17:49

CurdinHenry · 11/09/2026 22:27

I can see the data shows support for causes and support for specific politicians don't match up

It's odd, that's all

Some of it is due to politicians serving vested interests.

Some of it is politicians learn a lot more about topics than the general public.

I read some MPs switched their vote on assisted dying after doubts were raised about whether it could be made to work safely, not because they opposed on principle?

EmmaOfNormandy · 12/09/2026 17:45

myjamisbetterthanyours · 12/09/2026 16:04

I’m really disappointed the Assisted Death bill didn’t go through.

Clearly not as important as electoral reform or EU membership

wendywoody · 12/09/2026 17:34

ShitHoleDweller · 11/09/2026 22:31

True. Esther Ransom is now too ill to execute her plan of assisted dying. I bet she is very scared right now. It’s sad 😔

It is sad but she had the option to go sooner and didn't take it.

Disturbia81 · 12/09/2026 17:30

Andy Burnham feels like the only one who has understood the majority of brits

myjamisbetterthanyours · 12/09/2026 16:04

I’m really disappointed the Assisted Death bill didn’t go through.

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 12/09/2026 15:53

Add in nationalisation - more people support nationalisation of transport and utilities than not.

Because Britain is not a democracy, MPs have to worry about their future careers, and so just go with the party narrative dictated by on high, where the country is run to suit London and help the rich get richer.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 12/09/2026 15:47

MellowSubmarine · 11/09/2026 21:58

They can’t always think they’re representing the majority. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the issue, polls consistently show majority support for assisted dying. And they show more support for it amongst older people than younger people. So it’s not even the argument that maybe applies to other issues where politicians go with the views of older people as they’re most likely to vote.

Sometimes the right thing to do is not the popular thing to do.

EmmaOfNormandy · 12/09/2026 15:43

CurdinHenry · 11/09/2026 21:41

Assisted dying over (unless you're rich enough, of course, suffering only for the poor)

Scotland about to introduce a ban on multibuys for treat foods (no pleasurable snacks for poor people to accompany their no right to a dignified end of life)

The shittest possible version of Brexit (no customs union no passport deals)

Either open borders immigration zealots or no foreigners allowed racist zealots

Where did all the normal sanes go?

I could easily get 52% of the electorate to vote for free money.

Maybe being governed by the masses isn't a great idea.

Whether or not we trust the people who we choose to protect ourselves from ourselves is another matter.

hotmumshit · 12/09/2026 15:10

I honestly dont know

Its vile, banning discounts on sweets. Also vile that baby formula is exempt from discounts. Let the poor fucking live fgs.

Also - i was for the assisted dying bill. I understand the concerns, but i dont think theyre strong enough to deny someone dignity at their end.

bestcatlife · 12/09/2026 15:10

It’s actually very very difficult to take your own life @giddyboo

UniquePinkSwan · 12/09/2026 15:10

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 11/09/2026 21:43

Personally I’m delighted the assisted dying bill is dead.

I’m furious. We should be able to end our lives with dignity when we want

bestcatlife · 12/09/2026 15:09

It’s almost like they want us to suffer.

bestcatlife · 12/09/2026 15:09

I thought politicians would be in favour of assisted dying simply because it would save money.

giddyboo · 12/09/2026 14:25

OutOfTheOtherSide · 12/09/2026 10:34

No. YOU would like palliative care. I don't want palliative care, I want to end my life before I reach that stage.

By turning this bill down, you get to choose. I don't. It's about choice and its now been taken away because people like you are too selfish to consider that not everyone wants what you want.

You do already get to chose. Its not illegal to take your own life. You could plan a head. Assisted dying is someone taking someone else's life legally. There would be lots of safe guards at first to get it legalised then they'd start changing the criteria. They'd do it to save money on pensions and nhs costs. They'd wipe out dementia care homes.

nomas · 12/09/2026 12:17

NicolaSturgeon · 12/09/2026 12:08

Not sure where you're shopping, but BOGOF and 3 for 2 are fairly common Scotland-wide. England and Wales already went live with their versions of these laws, so people have some idea of what will change after the Scottish laws come in October, since they are intentionally harmonised.

And the shelves in England and Wales are still stacked high with cheap junk foods.

It’s often the first aisle you see as you come in store.

Packs of Cadbury’s Mini Chocolate Fingers on offer for 80p at Tesco in huge large containers as soon as you walk in.

NicolaSturgeon · 12/09/2026 12:08

nomas · 11/09/2026 21:59

Scotland about to introduce a ban on multibuys for treat foods (no pleasurable snacks for poor people to accompany their no right to a dignified end of life)

I wouldn’t worry, it won’t make any difference. I don’t see any BOGOF offers on chocolates and crisps and cakes in supermarkets.

It’s all about round pricing now e.g. a box of cake bars for £1. Or a pack of KitKats for £1.50.

Not sure where you're shopping, but BOGOF and 3 for 2 are fairly common Scotland-wide. England and Wales already went live with their versions of these laws, so people have some idea of what will change after the Scottish laws come in October, since they are intentionally harmonised.

EmeraldRoulette · 12/09/2026 10:46

I agree that we need properly funded and good palliative care

But it will not save you from some of the horrific things that can happen in your final months. Things people shouldn’t have to live through, that I would rather not describe on this thread.

OutOfTheOtherSide · 12/09/2026 10:36

emptythebin · 11/09/2026 22:45

Recognising we have an ageing population & costs come with that isn’t hating on pensioners. Nor is assisted dying.

We can’t afford assisted dying unfortunately

Can you provide evidence that assisted dying would be more costly than the cost of care a person would need?

Also, this should not be about money. This is literally life and death.

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