To say my DS cant keep missing school because the school “cant cope”??

But they are the parents. For the class teacher its just a job and whilst everyone else tries to shift the responsibility onto someone else, its them who deals with it on a daily basis. I reached teacher burnout. Not the job I signed up for.

I am very disappointed that teachers as a group haven't made a stand against the situation, striking if necessary. Everyone is far too concerned with not appearing inclusive enough for that to happen though.

If you genuinely think parents of DC with EHCPs aren’t left to pick up the pieces you are very mistaken.

Look at how many are forced to go down the SENDIST route.
Look at how many are left to complain to the LGO.
Look at how many are forced to pursue a pre-action letter.
Look at the number who feel they have to deregister and EHE.
Look at the number left picking up the pieces because the education system has broken their DC.
Look at the number of parents whose caring role has taken a physical &/or psychological toll on them. Sometimes to the point they reach parent carer burnout.
Look at the number of families with disabled DC who are living in poverty.

If there are sufficient state run special schools and state run hubs all regulated by the state and properly so, to a decent standard, I fail to see the problem.

Some of the for profit run specialist schools by private equity/foreign wealth funds are not sustainable for all children with SEND. The pie has to be shared out more fairly between all children with needs.

It is always the class teacher who is left to deal with the shit show. Not the LA, the school or the parents. It's why I quit the profession.

Also EOTAS or specialist will work for some and hubs will work for others. Providing more choice for all is surely a good thing, in principle at least. I do get that people who are traumatised by it all are suspicious, but we do need to find a way forward for MORE children. What is currently there is just not working for enough children. And this whole fad of independent specialist schools costing an absolute bomb and shareholders making huge profits is unacceptable. At least if it is kept in the state system, then hopefully also the communication between NHS and social worker and education will improve and the data will all be accessible more readily to the professionals to actually implement things that do work for the children in question, and in a long term manner.
[I do know there are issues with data sharing as well, but ultimtately most of us have no choice but to trust in the system at large to some extent].

It isn't always the schools fault but it isn't always the parents fault either. I'm sure OP would feel awful if her son hurt another child but she can't magically make the system work any faster than schools can.

I don't think the hubs are going to be staffed by a qualified teacher, are they

I was correcting the sweeping statement made, which gives a negative connotation that is not necessarily true.

The factual information I gave earlier was ignored in the same statement too.

Great, thanks for agreeing with the inaccuracy and qualifying that some hubs are/will be staffed by qualified teachers.

The statement would have been more accurate if it had been
I don't think the (all) hubs are going to be staffed by a qualified teacher, are they
Or more positive some/many hubs will be staffed by qualified teachers.
IME the lead and teacher for the hub is a member of the Senior Leadership Team and the SENCO.

@Phineyj I think the pp is meaning enforcement of an EHCP (not always possible since too many are poorly written) where LAs are in breach of the s42 duty. That can be done via JR if necessary. No, it isn’t instant, but it is a route that works. A lot of the time, a pre-action letter works so people don’t need to move on to JR proceedings. Although, sadly, not as often as it used to because LAs know finding someone with a legal aid contract to take things further isn’t as easy as it once was because demand is high.

@ThereIsNo that may be the case in your LA, but sadly it isn’t the case in many. Even where they are staffed by teachers with QTS, at secondary level, it is very unusual for the hubs to have subjects specialists.

I have looked at some of them but honestly its all a bit confusing and there isnt loads near us. DH keeps saying we should just apply and see what happens but i dont think he realises how long everything takes and that there arent just places sitting there waiting.

Someone said about private education, yes we have thought about it. Thats partly what the £2k is about really although not all of it is education. Some is therapy and assessments and things weve been told to get privately. I dont have another £2k spare on top of that though. We have a mortgage and normal bills and everything else, its not like we are choosing between a holiday and paying for DS.

I also dont think private school automatically means they can meet his needs. We would need somewhere that actually understands him and can deal with him when hes overwhelmed, not just somewhere with smaller classes.

I do understand that the chair and table being thrown is frightening for other people. Im not saying it isnt. I just dont think DS is sitting there deciding to make everyone scared. He gets completely overwhelmed and then loses control. Thats why i want them to look at what is happening before it gets to that point.

And yes DH does help with things, but if im being honest i do most of the phone calls and emails because im the one who is usually available when school ring. He has looked at some specialist schools but i dont think we have got as far as qualifications and travel and all that yet. At the moment its more a case of trying to work out what options there actually are.

DS does know something has changed. He keeps saying the new teacher doesnt like him and that she tells him off more than his old teacher did. He also says the classroom is louder and there is more work he doesnt understand. I asked him why he thinks hes getting upset and he basically said because he cant make it stop when everyone is talking and he gets angry.

I dont know how much of that is him explaining it properly though because obviously hes 9 and when he is upset everything becomes “because she hates me” or “everyone is being horrible”.

Im not against specialist school, i just dont want to jump straight to it without knowing what has actually changed since July. If another mainstream school could give him the right support then that might be better, but i dont know how you even work that out when hes currently struggling so much.

And I was merely pointing out many aren’t, even if they are in your LA.

I don't think the hubs are going to be staffed by a qualified teacher, are they

I was correcting the sweeping statement made, which gives a negative connotation that is not necessarily true.

The factual information I gave earlier was ignored in the same statement too.

@Phineyj I think the pp is meaning enforcement of an EHCP (not always possible since too many are poorly written) where LAs are in breach of the s42 duty. That can be done via JR if necessary. No, it isn’t instant, but it is a route that works. A lot of the time, a pre-action letter works so people don’t need to move on to JR proceedings. Although, sadly, not as often as it used to because LAs know finding someone with a legal aid contract to take things further isn’t as easy as it once was because demand is high.

@ThereIsNo that may be the case in your LA, but sadly it isn’t the case in many. Even where they are staffed by teachers with QTS, at secondary level, it is very unusual for the hubs to have subjects specialists.

I don't think the hubs are going to be staffed by a qualified teacher, are they? So it's likely to only be a posher version of a TA taking the child out to work with them.

Certainly at secondary, I cannot see how there could be subject teaching in the hubs, apart from maybe a bit of Maths and English.

If it's a legal obligation & the school aren't able to deliver it... where next?? Simply saying the school is responsible legally as some posters on this thread are doing is not a magic wand. Many posters on this thread say 'it's a legal responsibility' as if that's a magic spell which will somehow put the OPs child at the front of the resources queue.
Therefore, if a school can't deliver the EHCP, and OP (and others) are saying they MUST deliver it immediately... what happens next???🤷🏼‍♀️ The only way to FORCE it to happen is legal process. (Which takes time. Kicking the can down the road...)
Realism seems to go out of the window when some people claim that their legal 'rights' are to be met with immediate effect. People in England don't want to pay more income tax/Council tax. SOMETHING has to give.....🤷🏼‍♀️

If it's a legal obligation & the school aren't able to deliver it... where next?? Simply saying the school is responsible legally as some posters on this thread are doing is not a magic wand. Many posters on this thread say 'it's a legal responsibility' as if that's a magic spell which will somehow put the OPs child at the front of the resources queue.
Therefore, if a school can't deliver the EHCP, and OP (and others) are saying they MUST deliver it immediately... what happens next???🤷🏼‍♀️ The only way to FORCE it to happen is legal process. (Which takes time. Kicking the can down the road...)
Realism seems to go out of the window when some people claim that their legal 'rights' are to be met with immediate effect. People in England don't want to pay more income tax/Council tax. SOMETHING has to give.....🤷🏼‍♀️