AIBU to say no one can define female gender clearly

I don't believe this is a good faith thread you’ve posted, but in case you really are terribly confused try:

Woman = female SEX (ie in every cell in her bod)
Needs no accoutrements of ‘femininity’ to be a woman. (Need not aspire to a cartoon Jessica Rabbit silhouette!)
Dressing and indeed living as a lumberjack doesnt lessen her womanhood. A girl with short hair, a film star eschewing ballgowns on Oscar night, a flat chested uncurvy woman, etc etc: ‘female’ is a vastly capacious sex, encompassing every conceivable iteration of woman there could be (exactly as ‘male’ is re men) and there is only one thing which excludes a person from one or the other sex, and I hardly need spell it out.

Trans man = feminine GENDER (ie in outward expression, or manifestation.
All a ‘costume’, whether worn by a woman or a man, just as ‘masculinity’ is an assumed vibe in men and in trans women)

Very often, or more than very often, trans gender is expressed according an extremely retrogressive binary well out of date by the early Seventies, which is pretty ironic

Gender is a set of arbitrary social rules imposed on a person because of their sex that restrict an individual’s freedom of choice.

Gender = sex based stereotypes

That IS the definition.

Which is why it can't hold up in law without falling foul of sex discrimination laws in the UK.

It's basic Feminism 101.

Sex = biology. In mammals, there are 2 sexes, and sex is immutable.
There are differences or variations in sexual development (DSDs or VSDs) where some aspects of biological sex suffer from a mutation (because sexual reproduction). But anyone with a DSD has a baseline sex of male or female.

Gender = gender roles and/or stereotypes, better expressed as sex-based stereotypes.
These are historically and culturally contingent.

For example, 50 years ago, women were paid less than men, because they were not seen as the family breadwinners. THat is a sterertype and a role based on a person's SEX, not their ability, qualifications, or anything else about them.

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/gender
Would that help you? 🤔

Because they're women.
It's very simple.
Only women can have babies.
Transmen are women.
I don't understand what you don't understand.

How many times. There is NO such thing as gender! It's a social construct.

When we "listen to transpeople" like wot we are told we must do, they tell us what woman gender and man gender and nonbinary gender mean.

The words make no sense, and don't relate in any way to my lived experience of being an Actual Woman, but they do tell us, I do listen and then file away that bit of my life I'm never getting back again.

For women it seems to be things like "gentle", "soft", "submissive", "massive boobs" etc, etc 💩
For men it's mostly beards.

Gender is just “feelz” isn’t it.?

You clearly have an opinion already, what's with all the faux-naïve sealioning?

Female is a sex not a gender. The definition of the female sex is of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs.

Gender is imposed on women on top of our female biology. The gender ‘woman’ sexually objectifies us (cosmetics, revealing clothing), belittles us (weaker sex), steals from us (expectations women will carry the unpaid work burden) and generally excludes us from full participation in society because of our gestational role and the expectation that our work will neither be valued or financially compensated in a patriarchal society.

Where have you been for the last decade or so that you are asking this now?
This debate is very old.
He thinks it means he is a woman because he feels he is, and believes his feelings about his sense of self override his biological sex.
People who disagree with him argue that his bioogical sex means he is a man and that this overrides any feelings or wishes he has to the contrary.

The PP didn't state that means he's a woman.

If you read it properly, she's stating what the man thinks.

I would start with gender being the life experience of females. Although unique having multiple shared experiences based on sex.
I don’t think it would be too difficult a construct, a few academics who acknowledge the biological reality of life could whip one up.

People are deliberately complicating this in order to cause confusion because it suits their cause. It’s actually incredibly simple.

Male and Female are biological terms that relate to gamete size. People are either Male or Female and it can be determined at approx 3 days post conception which of these they are via genetic testing. That’s how they are able to do sex selective IVF. Either an X sperm gets into the egg or a Y sperm does, you then end up with a human being designed around the ability to create large gametes - a female, or small gametes - a male. That human being may have defects that mean they can’t actually produce gametes or their body forms to look slightly different but neither of those things change the fact that they are either male or female and were from the instant the sperm got lucky.

Gender until recently was a synonym for sex, it was the polite way we spoke about private parts without using the S.E.X word. Everyone knew that women are female and men are male.

Now gender is used to describe how a person identifies themselves and it is 100% stereotypes/personality based.

When I was younger, gender used to be referring to how feminine or masculine people (of both sexes) behaved.

There is a woman at work who always claims she isn't a girly girl because she likes sport and hiking and outdoor activities. I find it a bit irritating because I do those activities but have never felt they are particularly male. She seems to be completely blind to the fact that loads of women also do those things even when she is doing them with other women.

The whole gender stereotyping is very flimsy and varies from person to person and is different in different cultures.

Gender is the word used for a collection of stereotypes relating to presentation, behaviour, aptitudes and feelings associated in our society, or in the mind of the individual using the term with one or the other of the two sexes.
So if a man claims to have the gender of a woman, what he means is he prefers the stereotypes associated with being a woman to being a man, feels they fit him better, rejects male ones, so therefore must be a woman through his 'gender'.

We are all individuals. We look different. We like diffetent things. We hate different things. Its impossible to reduce everything there is abput a person into two categories.

Yes, I often think if pregnant women had 'Sex reveal' parties, they might sound a lot more interesting 😁

When I was younger, gender was just used as another word for biological sex. Possibly because people were a bit squeamish about saying sex. There may have been a different scientific definition, but if there was, it wasn't in everyday use. To many people the two words still mean the same thing.

First reply nails it.