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DD’s dad has taken her overseas and won’t bring her back

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CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:01

Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad have been separated for 4 years. He had DD last weekend and has taken her overseas (he had her passport) and has moved overseas (America) with her and won’t bring her back! I had no idea that he was planning to do this! He has obviously been planning it for a while as he would have had to get Visa’s and plan his move to America and so on. He texted me on Saturday morning while he had DD saying that he was at the airport and that he was moving to America for work and that he was taking DD with him and wouldn’t bring her back! He hasn’t answered any of my calls or messages since. I’m going insane worrying about my DD. I’ve been absolutely in bits since, I’m an absolute wreck and can’t stop crying and worrying about my DD and just want her home with me! I’m DD’s primary parent so can’t imagine how scared and upset she must be feeling without me! The police here in the UK won’t do anything as they are saying her dad also has parental responsibility like me so there’s nothing they can do. Social services are refusing to get involved as well. AIBU to think that the police and authorities should be doing more to get my DD home? I’m absolutely in bits and can’t stop crying over it all! I’m furious and livid with her dad too, I’m absolutely raging at him with anger for doing this

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Needapadlockonmyfridge · 11/09/2026 06:47

I have no advice to offer, but I am sos sorry you and your DD are going through this. I hope your DD is back home soon x

PaleBlueEnglishRose · 11/09/2026 06:43

DontGoChasinWaterfalls · 10/09/2026 21:39

OP, please try to filter out some of the more dramatic suggestions on here and concentrate on the practical steps that can actually help get your daughter home.

I completely understand why people are angry on your behalf, but I would NOT start a smear campaign against Dad, contact his employer demanding they sack him, go to the press or plaster this all over social media. At this stage you need to be calm, methodical and very careful about what you put in writing. This may end up being evidence in proceedings in America.

Some of those routes may have a place later. For example, his employer might be relevant if they can help establish where he is living or working, and an MP may be useful if a UK government agency is being unresponsive. But neither his employer, the press nor an MP can order your daughter home. They should not become the main strategy and they certainly should not distract you from the Hague process.

From what you have described, I would do the following.

Tonight / immediately

Save the message where Dad says he is at the airport, is moving to America with your daughter and will not be returning her. Screenshot it, back it up and email a copy to yourself.

Save every subsequent message, missed call and voicemail. Do not delete anything.

Make one chronology while everything is fresh in your mind:

  • when he collected DD
  • what the agreed arrangements were
  • when you expected her returned
  • when you received the airport message
  • exactly what he said
  • when you discovered they had actually left
  • every attempt you have made to contact him since.
  1. Gather DD’s birth certificate, passport details if you have them, any Child Arrangements Order, school details, GP details and anything showing that her ordinary home and life are in England.
  1. Write down everything you know about Dad’s whereabouts in America: employer, office, possible home address, relatives, friends, telephone numbers, email addresses, flight information etc.
  1. Report it to the police and obtain an incident/crime reference number. If somebody simply tells you, “He has parental responsibility so he can take her,” politely ask for the matter to be reviewed by a supervisor and explain that you are reporting the unauthorised international removal of a child, not an ordinary contact disagreement.

Tomorrow morning

Contact the International Child Abduction and Contact Unit (ICACU) and tell them very clearly:

“My six-year-old daughter was habitually resident in England. Her father took her during his contact time and removed her to the United States without my knowledge or consent. He has told me in writing that he has moved there permanently with her and will not return her. I want to make an urgent application under the 1980 Hague Convention.”

Also contact Reunite International Child Abduction Centre. They specialise in these cases and can talk you through the process.

If you can afford a solicitor

Do not just ring a random high-street divorce solicitor.

Look for somebody who specifically deals with international parental child abduction / Hague Convention cases. This is specialist work.

Send them the chronology and evidence rather than spending the first appointment trying to remember everything while understandably distressed.

Ask them specifically about:

  • an urgent Hague return application
  • whether any urgent English High Court orders would assist
  • preserving evidence of your lack of consent
  • locating DD if her precise location is unknown
  • representation required in the United States.

If you cannot afford a solicitor

Please do NOT think that means you cannot start trying to get your daughter back.

You can approach ICACU directly. You do not need to have instructed a private solicitor before contacting the Central Authority or starting the Hague process.

Tell ICACU immediately that you have no funds for private representation and ask what assistance is available for an outgoing Hague application to the USA.

The US Central Authority can also help applicants seek lawyers through its Hague Convention Attorney Network, including asking for pro bono or reduced-fee representation where someone qualifies. It is not guaranteed in America, but lack of money is absolutely not a reason to sit doing nothing.

Reunite can also give you free specialist guidance and help you understand what you need to do next.

What I would NOT prioritise right now

Your MP might later be useful if you are struggling to get responses from a UK government department, but your MP cannot order America to return your daughter.

His employer may be relevant if the authorities need information about his location or employment, but contacting them to shame him or try to get him sacked is a completely different matter and could be counterproductive.

The press cannot order her return either.

Facebook or Mumsnet campaigns cannot determine where she should live.

The Hague Convention process can result in a US court ordering her return to England, which is why that needs to be your focus.

I would also be cautious about people pushing OP to demand arrests, criminal charges or public exposure immediately without taking specialist advice first. Criminal action and Hague return proceedings can interact in complicated ways, especially internationally, and the priority should be getting advice from people who actually deal with child-abduction cases rather than taking steps out of anger that could make matters harder.

And I really would urge everyone telling OP to “destroy him”, contact his workplace, expose him publicly etc. to calm down. I know those comments are coming from anger and wanting to help, but OP needs useful information rather than a pile-on.

OP, keep any communication with Dad incredibly simple and calm. Do not threaten him or tell him you are going to ruin his life.

Something along the lines of:

“I do not consent and have never consented to DD being removed from England or relocating to the United States. Please confirm immediately that she is safe, where she is staying, and arrangements for her return.”

Then preserve his response.

You can deal with what he has done and how you feel about it later. Right now the objective is very simple:

Locate DD. Preserve the evidence. Start the Hague process. Get specialist advice. Get her home.

One step at a time.

Edited

An experienced voice with a laser focus on the practical steps that need to be taken to deal with this international matter. I see OP is seeing a solicitor but needs to check they have correct experience.

On citizenship - she’s a US citizen as her father is. Mine are for a different country and I only lived there until I was 10, having been born here.

Sending so many positive thoughts your way.

Passaggressfedup · 11/09/2026 06:41

Step one - contact a family mediation service. Go with the first that can get you a meeting today or tomorrow. Explain the situation during the meeting and get a C100 form.

Step two - make an urgent application for a 'specific issue'. That's the official name.

Step 3 - contact ICACU.

Good luck OP. I'm not sure what you're ex was trying to accomplish because he will absolutely be forced to bring your daughter back to her jurisdiction, the UK. Even if he tries to use safeguarding concerns, abduction is not the way to manage it.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 11/09/2026 06:39

Mapletree1985 · 11/09/2026 06:35

"Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad..." Your DD's dad is also your dad?

Seriously? You know exactly what she means

tenmoreprawncrackers · 11/09/2026 06:39

Motheranddaughter · 10/09/2026 21:16

Is it a criminal matter I wouldn’t have thought so
Certainly don’t think it’s kidnapping
Hopefully the solicitor will be able to help

You might need a specialist solicitor
I hope you have lots of family/ friends support

Of course it's kidnapping

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 11/09/2026 06:38

justasmalltownmum · 10/09/2026 21:51

I took my kids in the summer and didn’t need a letter. They even have different surnames.

There’s a difference between needing a letter and just not being asked to show it

Flicitytricity · 11/09/2026 06:37

Mapletree1985 · 11/09/2026 06:35

"Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad..." Your DD's dad is also your dad?

What a useful contribution 😡

Mapletree1985 · 11/09/2026 06:35

"Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad..." Your DD's dad is also your dad?

liveforsummer · 11/09/2026 06:35

The Hague convention on parental child abduction overseas is pretty clear and America is thankfully a member. You will get legal aid as the left behind parent. You need a lawyer who specialises in this bit keep your appointment today regardless if this one is as they will be able to signpost you

HeirloomTomato · 11/09/2026 06:31

HappyPalaces · 10/09/2026 23:40

While the child may be a US citizen, you cannot get a passport for a child without both parents being present at the embassy for the appointment or having a notarized letter from the absent parent. It certainly wouldn’t be easy.

Honestly, this doesn’t really add up for me. He can’t have gotten her a visa or passport without your consent. He should not have been able to get her out of the country.

Is this possibly to deflect you and get you looking in the wrong direction? You’ve said his company cannot tell you if he’s working in New York? You haven’t spoken to either of them in days? I’d honestly contact the police again and report it more generally as child abduction. You don’t know if he’s actually taken her out of the country.

Agreed. As a parent myself whose children have dual US and other citizenship, you can't just secretly get your kids passports or visas based on your own citizenship. The other parent has to sign all the paperwork so it would be nearly impossible for him to get the DD a US passport without the OP knowing and the same for a visa.

If this is real and OP is genuine, is there a chance he just winged it and got though customs and border by saying he was just on holidays and taking his daughter to visit family? He must also have lied to the daughter because from my experience US customs and border are very very antsy these days, especially about minors traveling with one parent. The child will be asked her name, age and who the adult traveling with her is. If she has really just been taken away from her mother, she is young enough to be incredibly upset about that and that would trigger suspicion from the customs and border officers immediately. It's all extremely odd and doesn't add up.

Blueblell · 11/09/2026 06:29

I would sort out legal representation and then go over there and bring her back. You know who his employer is so it should be possible to track him down.

Another2Cats · 11/09/2026 06:09

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:32

Her dad had lived in the UK for 8 years prior to her birth?

It doesn't have to be the five years immediately prior to the birth but just any five years, with at least two of those years being while he was over the age of 14.

So, for example, if he lived in the USA from birth until 16 and then moved abroad then that would count.

However, if he left the USA before he was 16 and never returned then he could not pass on US citizenship to his child (although if he did later return for two years he would then afterwards be able to pass on US citizenship).

Vodkamartini3olives · 11/09/2026 05:58

VanCleefArpels · 10/09/2026 21:22

Could he have secretly applied for a US passport for her?

From my personal experience no. My DH is American. My eldest was born in UK. We both had to be present when applying for a US passport for him. Having duel citizenship isn't automatic. You still have to apply for a passport to enter the US.

IsLarryFromSomething · 11/09/2026 05:46

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:32

Her dad had lived in the UK for 8 years prior to her birth?

I'm American and also lived here for 8 years before my child with my British husband was born. My child is still entitled to, and has, both US and UK passports.

However regardless of her citizenship situation this is against the hague convention, a lot of Americans I see in immigrant groups feel stuck in the UK because they have a child here they can't take from the UK because of it. Hopefully your lawyer can sort this out asap. It must be really scary for her and you xx

Zanatdy · 11/09/2026 05:05

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 04:46

I’m a us citizen and my children are British. If you have the same surname they rarely give it a second thought. The most that has happened is my son having me pointed at and they said ‘who is that’ and he said ‘my mum’ and that was that. I am totally unsure how he acquired a visa though… as my kids don’t have us passports they have had to travel on my husbands esta

Yeah my DC have a different surname and DD has a completely Asian name, very different to mine. Been all over with them including US 5 times and no-one ever asked me for a letter.

Zanatdy · 11/09/2026 05:04

That’s horrendous OP. Really hope you get your DD back asap. Maybe he just took her in on an ETA. When we went to the US, I applied for them for the kids, not their dad. We didn’t both need to consent. Presumably he doesn’t care that it is only for a set period. Hope the solicitor can get the ball rolling. I really feel for you OP. Please stay strong.

JemappelleClaude · 11/09/2026 05:01

WaneyEdge · 10/09/2026 23:09

Presumably you/the company wouldn’t just take someone’s word for it that their employee was involved in something illegal?

We wouldn’t, but we would sure as hell investigate claims being made and at the very least interview the person and check if it has any basis/they are working with the authorities.

Sussexserpents · 11/09/2026 04:46

Miyagi99 · 11/09/2026 04:37

They rarely ask for proof.

I’m a us citizen and my children are British. If you have the same surname they rarely give it a second thought. The most that has happened is my son having me pointed at and they said ‘who is that’ and he said ‘my mum’ and that was that. I am totally unsure how he acquired a visa though… as my kids don’t have us passports they have had to travel on my husbands esta

Einszwei · 11/09/2026 04:38

Do you have your DDs passport details? You can check her i94 record to see if she has entered the US under a non immigrant visa.

You can check this here:
https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/search/history-search

I94 - Official Website

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/search/history-search

Miyagi99 · 11/09/2026 04:37

Cadeaukatze · 10/09/2026 21:20

How did he even get her out of the UK - or into the US? I thought you needed a permission letter from the other parent? Has he forged it?

They rarely ask for proof.

Trallers · 11/09/2026 04:28

What an awful situation. I know someone this happened to. It was a similar situation (US + American citzenship, although not NY). It took far too long but did end up in front of a judge who ordered the child back home, so don't give up hope.

MadinMarch · 11/09/2026 03:19

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:49

Ok thank you so much, that’s all so helpful. I’ll do all of that tomorrow, thank you so much

This all sounds like excellent advice, and a very good strategy to follow.
Concentrate on doing this rather than going public and using social media etc.
You must be beside yourself with worry OP and my heart goes out to you. I hope your dd is returned very soon.
Just one thing, I wonder whether he's told you the truth about which country/city/ state he's gone to? It could serve him well to confuse you and the authorities to give him more time to establish himself and dd as residents of wherever he's gone. Hopefully one or other of the organisations that deals with parental child abduction will be able to seek some sort of legal order forcing his work company to disclose where he is.
Do you know any of his friends and/or colleagues in the uk who may be able to give you any information? I appreciate though that he may not have disclosed his intentions to anyone.
He's acted very cruelly towards his daughter and you too.

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 11/09/2026 03:09

Soontobe60 · 10/09/2026 22:28

I would contact them again to inform them that one of their employees has removed your DD from your care without permission.

Why do you think she didn't tell them that when she called??
The employer cannot help here. I have no idea why anyone thinks that they can.

user1492757084 · 11/09/2026 03:06

bigboykitty · 10/09/2026 21:43

I really wouldn't try his employer again. You need the big guns on this. Embassy/MP/Minister - that level.

Yes, Cherrymummy is right.
And what if he leaves that employ and moves to unknown place?
You need his place of residence constant.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 11/09/2026 03:03

What an absolute fucking twat. I hope he gets the book thrown at him and loses his job. But most of all I hope you and DD are reunited soon.