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DD’s dad has taken her overseas and won’t bring her back

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CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:01

Me and my DD’s (6 years old) dad have been separated for 4 years. He had DD last weekend and has taken her overseas (he had her passport) and has moved overseas (America) with her and won’t bring her back! I had no idea that he was planning to do this! He has obviously been planning it for a while as he would have had to get Visa’s and plan his move to America and so on. He texted me on Saturday morning while he had DD saying that he was at the airport and that he was moving to America for work and that he was taking DD with him and wouldn’t bring her back! He hasn’t answered any of my calls or messages since. I’m going insane worrying about my DD. I’ve been absolutely in bits since, I’m an absolute wreck and can’t stop crying and worrying about my DD and just want her home with me! I’m DD’s primary parent so can’t imagine how scared and upset she must be feeling without me! The police here in the UK won’t do anything as they are saying her dad also has parental responsibility like me so there’s nothing they can do. Social services are refusing to get involved as well. AIBU to think that the police and authorities should be doing more to get my DD home? I’m absolutely in bits and can’t stop crying over it all! I’m furious and livid with her dad too, I’m absolutely raging at him with anger for doing this

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dreamingbohemian · 10/09/2026 23:27

Timeforachange26 · 10/09/2026 23:17

He's her father and he's American. Surely her birth certificate would prove that

Nope. She was born abroad, it's not automatic. He would need to prove she's American.

BinNightTonight · 10/09/2026 23:26

This is awful and terrifying. I am so, so sorry. I would also do everything as calmly and by the book as possible, despite how much you want to go nuclear. Your poor daughter and poor you.

Annoyedbyhusband · 10/09/2026 23:24

Also speak again to the police, we had an incident with police and went and complained and spoke to a senior officer and he apologised and said his junior officers didn’t know the law and had dealt with it wrongly as they were not trained in that matter. Try again. Don’t leave it. I googled some advice that might help : Frontline police officers are often not trained in the complexities of international family law and frequently confuse internal family disputes (within the UK) with international parental abduction.
How to Force the Police to Take Action

  1. Demand to Speak to a Supervisor: Ask to speak directly to a Duty Sergeant or a Duty Inspector. Calmly state: "This is not a civil dispute. Under Section 1 of the Child Abduction Act 1984, taking a child out of the UK without my consent is a criminal offence." 1, 2]
  2. Request the "MASH" or Public Protection Unit: Ask the station to transfer your log or case to their Multi-Agency Safeguarding Hub (MASH) or the Public Protection / Child Protection Unit. These specialized officers understand that international abduction is a major safeguarding issue.
  3. Insist on a Crime Reference Number: Do not accept an "incident log" number. Insist that a crime is formally recorded so it is allocated to an investigating officer.
Immediate Back-up Steps You Must Take If the police are stalling, you need to bypass them or get professional leverage immediately:
  • Call Reunite International Immediately: Phone the Reunite International advice line at tel:0116 255 6234 0116 255 6234. They are the leading UK charity specializing in international parental abduction. They can guide you on exactly what to say to the police and can sometimes liaise with law enforcement on your behalf.
  • 1]
  • Contact the FCDO: If your child is already overseas, call the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) Consular Directorate at tel:020 7008 5000 020 7008 5000. They can put pressure on police channels via Interpol. 1, 2]
  • Instruct a Specialist Family Solicitor: Contact a law firm accredited by the International Child Abduction and Contact Unit (ICACU). A specialist solicitor can rapidly apply for emergency High Court orders (like a Prohibited Steps Order or an All Ports Alert) that the police must legally enforce. 1, 2]

International parental child abduction

This guidance outlines options to consider and who to contact if your child has been taken or kept abroad by their other parent or a relative without your permission.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/international-parental-child-abduction

TheCabbageMerchant · 10/09/2026 23:21

This happened to a friend, though it was Spain rather than America. She did get her children back, and had to go through lawyers, but it took months. I hope he comes to his senses.

Annoyedbyhusband · 10/09/2026 23:19

I agree about not contacting the employer. The last thing you would want is for him to lose his job, then disappear.
I hope you can speak to some people who can help you tomorrow. This must be awful. What kind of person does that to a child and their mother

Redpaisley · 10/09/2026 23:19

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:14

I did and they wouldn’t talk to me because of data protection.

Your DD’s father has abducted her and he is a criminal.

giggidygiggidygiggidy · 10/09/2026 23:18

The police are wrong here - to take a child out of the country without permission of whoever has parental responsibility is a criminal offence. This is child abduction and it is a crime and they are wrong not to treat it as that. It’s irrelevant that you both have parental responsibility, that’s only applicable about issues where you are both still in the country. I’m telling you this as a child protection social worker

InterIgnis · 10/09/2026 23:17

dreamingbohemian · 10/09/2026 23:15

Without a passport he can't prove that and he can't have gotten her a passport without OP knowing

All he needed to do was report the birth to the Consulate at any point prior to her 18th birthday. The U.S endows citizenship both by soil and by blood.

Her American citizenship isn’t dependent on a passport.

Timeforachange26 · 10/09/2026 23:17

dreamingbohemian · 10/09/2026 23:15

Without a passport he can't prove that and he can't have gotten her a passport without OP knowing

He's her father and he's American. Surely her birth certificate would prove that

FalconHonour33 · 10/09/2026 23:15

CherryMummy1 · 10/09/2026 21:32

Her dad had lived in the UK for 8 years prior to her birth?

You may have already answered this, so sorry if so, but if your ex spent at least 5 years in the US or one of its territories before your daughter was born, at least two of which were after his 14th birthday, your DD is entitled to US citizenship through him. The eight years before her birth are irrelevant as long as it doesn't cancel out the above.

At least that's how I'm reading it.

I can't imagine how you're feeling, sending hugs and hoping for a speedy resolution!

dreamingbohemian · 10/09/2026 23:15

Timeforachange26 · 10/09/2026 23:11

She's also American though id think

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Without a passport he can't prove that and he can't have gotten her a passport without OP knowing

dreamingbohemian · 10/09/2026 23:13

EconomyClassRockstar · 10/09/2026 22:58

Exactly. He also couldn't have got the visa without the OP's permission, as primary parent, either. It's actually really hard to immigrate to the US legally, despite what Trump keeps telling everyone.

Yes. I do find it odd that neither UK or US immigration seemed bothered about it, to the extent that I would wonder if he actually is in the US or if he's just being cruel and psycho saying so

But I suppose he could say they're just visiting, as British she doesn't need a visa, though I'm not sure if a child that young would have needed an ESTA.

Brandyb · 10/09/2026 23:12

DontGoChasinWaterfalls · 10/09/2026 21:23

Yes, this sounds like international parental child abduction.

Please do not accept the response that “he has parental responsibility too, therefore there is nothing anyone can do.” Parental responsibility does not give one parent the automatic right to permanently remove a child from the UK and relocate her overseas without the consent of the other parent with parental responsibility or permission from the court.

I have unfortunately had experience of my own child being withheld from me by her father, although mine remained in the UK, and my strongest advice is to stop trying to reason with him and start creating a very clear legal and evidential trail immediately.

Screenshot and save absolutely everything, particularly the message where he says he is at the airport, is moving to America and will not be bringing your daughter back. Save your call logs, messages, flight information if you know it, passport details, his US address/employer if known, details of any relatives there and anything showing where your daughter normally lives, goes to school and has her life here.

Contact a specialist family solicitor urgently and specifically tell them that this is an international child abduction / Hague Convention case involving a six-year-old child habitually resident in England who has been removed to the USA without your consent. Those exact facts matter. I would not wait for a normal family-law appointment several weeks away.

I would also contact Reunite International Child Abduction Centre and the UK Central Authority for international child abduction. The USA and UK operate the Hague Convention, which exists specifically to deal with children being wrongfully removed from or retained away from the country in which they normally live.

Go back to the police as well and ask for the matter to be recorded specifically as suspected international parental child abduction, rather than simply a disagreement between two parents. Having parental responsibility does not make an unauthorised permanent removal abroad automatically lawful. Ask for an incident/crime reference and, if necessary, ask for the matter to be reviewed by a supervisor.

If you already have a Child Arrangements Order, take a copy of that straight to your solicitor and the police. If the order says your daughter lives with you, or sets out her time with her father, that is obviously extremely important. Even without an order, however, you should still get specialist advice urgently.

I would also contact her school tomorrow morning and tell them exactly what has happened so there is a contemporaneous record that she has been removed unexpectedly and has not simply changed schools with your agreement.

Please try not to send him angry or threatening messages, however understandable your anger is. Keep anything you send short, calm and child-focused: that you do not consent to your daughter relocating to the USA, you require her immediate return, and you want confirmation that she is safe and where she is staying. Everything could potentially end up before a court.

And please act quickly. Hague Convention proceedings are specifically about returning a child to the country of their habitual residence so that longer-term parenting disputes can be decided there. This is not something I would leave for social services to resolve.

I’m so sorry you are going through this. I remember the absolute panic of not knowing whether my own daughter was going to be returned to me, and that was without her having been taken to another country. Get specialist legal help immediately and keep pushing this as an international child-abduction matter rather than allowing it to be dismissed as “both parents have PR”.

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I'm so sorry you had to go through that. But it seems to have made you a badass. Hope you won.

Timeforachange26 · 10/09/2026 23:11

EconomyClassRockstar · 10/09/2026 22:41

How is this even possible? You can't just rock up to US immigration and say, "Hi! Dual citizen here. This is my DD who is a British citizen and I'm bringing her into the country".

She's also American though id think

Raydaye · 10/09/2026 23:09

EconomyClassRockstar · 10/09/2026 22:58

Exactly. He also couldn't have got the visa without the OP's permission, as primary parent, either. It's actually really hard to immigrate to the US legally, despite what Trump keeps telling everyone.

Yea it really is hard. I was delighted to be selected for a green card (via visa lottery) towards the end of last year and submitted all my paperwork to be interviewed

I didn’t even get invited for an interview at the embassy!😂

I was looking into it and there’s some kind of mishap this year with immigration and they are pausing a lot of visas.

WaneyEdge · 10/09/2026 23:09

JemappelleClaude · 10/09/2026 22:35

I am a Brit who is also now American and runs HR and IR for a multi billion dollar corporation. I can tell you that we would absolutely get that individual in for meetings immediately and threaten termination. Our contracts have morality clauses and any press which reflects poorly on the company can result in immediate termination. If you want things to move quickly, make it a press issue for the company he has moved to be with.

Presumably you/the company wouldn’t just take someone’s word for it that their employee was involved in something illegal?

grinandslothit · 10/09/2026 23:08

JemappelleClaude · 10/09/2026 22:35

I am a Brit who is also now American and runs HR and IR for a multi billion dollar corporation. I can tell you that we would absolutely get that individual in for meetings immediately and threaten termination. Our contracts have morality clauses and any press which reflects poorly on the company can result in immediate termination. If you want things to move quickly, make it a press issue for the company he has moved to be with.

Yes this people are applying UK rules to US companies
Work in the United States is at will and you can be fired for anything.

A big stink in the news media and on social media about an employee abducting a child they would absolutely fire him because they would not want the heat. that is how it works in America.

Raydaye · 10/09/2026 23:06

Hereforadviceee · 10/09/2026 21:50

This.

you cannot make it look like a civil matter. Stick to the facts and the law.

People telling you to pressure his employer is crazy.

not the same but have a case open with the police just on ex taking them abroad without consent. What your ex has done is classed as child abduction, and he needed your consent to travel which he did not get.

you need to go through the right channels. Everything this person said is exactly what you need to do. You cannot have out bursts at this man or he will use it as fuel against you. It has to be clear from anyone looking into this that he has broken the law and that it is not a civil matter or disagreement between parents.

Agree with this and @DontGoChasinWaterfalls excellent post. I am glad Op has taken note of it.

I’d also add that he seems volatile to do something like this, so the focus should really be on getting her daughter back as calmly as possible so we know she’s safe. We can’t be sure of his emotional/mental state.

So sorry this is happening to you, OP. We often hear people cautioning women who have a child with someone from a ME/Asian or African country about the possibility of their partner/ex running off with their child, but this is a reminder that any man from any country can do this.

EconomyClassRockstar · 10/09/2026 22:58

dreamingbohemian · 10/09/2026 22:46

He can't have gotten her a US passport without you knowing OP (I'm an American in the UK with a child born here)

As she was born abroad she is not officially a US citizen unless he has gone through the process to confirm this (eg if he was also born abroad he may not be able to pass citizenship on)

Follow the expert advice here and you will get her back. You have to stay strong for her.

Exactly. He also couldn't have got the visa without the OP's permission, as primary parent, either. It's actually really hard to immigrate to the US legally, despite what Trump keeps telling everyone.

Winnie27101981 · 10/09/2026 22:57

If you know the company and that they are in New York could you travel there? I am not sure of the legal implications for this (such as is it better you fight from the UK or US) but it should definitely be explored as an option?

Yytrtt · 10/09/2026 22:57

Do you know what job is?

If he had police involvement, child welfare etc might it affect it?

I’m sorry you’re going through this.
The only thing I can think of is doing things that potentially jeopardises his new job and he panicks and gives her back.

Does he have family over there?

GlosGirl82 · 10/09/2026 22:55

Contact your MP asap - this is contrary to a number of conventions - they can get involved with the US Authorities too

Winnie27101981 · 10/09/2026 22:52

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Olderbadger1 · 10/09/2026 22:51

You might already have this information but please try not to panic - the Hague Abduction Convention exists for exactly this situation and you can contact a Hague lawyer tomorrow who will set things in motion. Basically if one parent takes a child across an international border without permission from the other parent, the Convention ensures that police forces and courts work together to bring the child back as rapidly as possible (usually within 6 weeks). Dawson Cornwell are well-regarded but there are many others specialising in this type of case https://dawsoncornwell.com/legal-services/children/child-abduction-and-custody-disputes/

Usually you will be given legal aid to bring your case. The fact he's the father, or that DD has dual citizenship, is irrelevant. It is unlawful to take her. ♥Good luck OP.

Child Abduction and Custody Disputes • Children • Dawson Cornwell • Family Solicitors

In modern society, families are becoming increasingly international, with people from different countries and cultures intermarrying, forming

https://dawsoncornwell.com/legal-services/children/child-abduction-and-custody-disputes/

TheOnlyWayIsIlford · 10/09/2026 22:50

DontGoChasinWaterfalls · 10/09/2026 21:23

Yes, this sounds like international parental child abduction.

Please do not accept the response that “he has parental responsibility too, therefore there is nothing anyone can do.” Parental responsibility does not give one parent the automatic right to permanently remove a child from the UK and relocate her overseas without the consent of the other parent with parental responsibility or permission from the court.

I have unfortunately had experience of my own child being withheld from me by her father, although mine remained in the UK, and my strongest advice is to stop trying to reason with him and start creating a very clear legal and evidential trail immediately.

Screenshot and save absolutely everything, particularly the message where he says he is at the airport, is moving to America and will not be bringing your daughter back. Save your call logs, messages, flight information if you know it, passport details, his US address/employer if known, details of any relatives there and anything showing where your daughter normally lives, goes to school and has her life here.

Contact a specialist family solicitor urgently and specifically tell them that this is an international child abduction / Hague Convention case involving a six-year-old child habitually resident in England who has been removed to the USA without your consent. Those exact facts matter. I would not wait for a normal family-law appointment several weeks away.

I would also contact Reunite International Child Abduction Centre and the UK Central Authority for international child abduction. The USA and UK operate the Hague Convention, which exists specifically to deal with children being wrongfully removed from or retained away from the country in which they normally live.

Go back to the police as well and ask for the matter to be recorded specifically as suspected international parental child abduction, rather than simply a disagreement between two parents. Having parental responsibility does not make an unauthorised permanent removal abroad automatically lawful. Ask for an incident/crime reference and, if necessary, ask for the matter to be reviewed by a supervisor.

If you already have a Child Arrangements Order, take a copy of that straight to your solicitor and the police. If the order says your daughter lives with you, or sets out her time with her father, that is obviously extremely important. Even without an order, however, you should still get specialist advice urgently.

I would also contact her school tomorrow morning and tell them exactly what has happened so there is a contemporaneous record that she has been removed unexpectedly and has not simply changed schools with your agreement.

Please try not to send him angry or threatening messages, however understandable your anger is. Keep anything you send short, calm and child-focused: that you do not consent to your daughter relocating to the USA, you require her immediate return, and you want confirmation that she is safe and where she is staying. Everything could potentially end up before a court.

And please act quickly. Hague Convention proceedings are specifically about returning a child to the country of their habitual residence so that longer-term parenting disputes can be decided there. This is not something I would leave for social services to resolve.

I’m so sorry you are going through this. I remember the absolute panic of not knowing whether my own daughter was going to be returned to me, and that was without her having been taken to another country. Get specialist legal help immediately and keep pushing this as an international child-abduction matter rather than allowing it to be dismissed as “both parents have PR”.

Do this, OP.

We are all behind you. What an absolute he is , I am so sorry.

Anyway...despite his horrific behaviour he presumably he loves your dd and will be treating her lovingly and kindly. She is not in physical danger....and hopefully with the right support from a solicitor experienced in International Child Abduction she will be back before she realises she hasn't been on a bit of a holiday.

Why has it taken all week to get a solicitors appointment?