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AIBU to ask for guidance around DC and A levels with university in mind - I'm clueless

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Tomorrowtodaynever · 10/09/2026 19:39

I didn't go to university traditionally, I ended up doing it as a mature student and his dad didn't go. I am helping Year 11 DC think about A level choices but with university in mind. Can anyone input?

So, in short: DC is bright and could do well across all subjects, but when it comes to choosing A levels they really can't decide. There are definite Nos - and these are a lot of the traditional subjects. I really want him to keep his options open and go to a good uni, if that can happen. Obviously if it doesn't, that's fine too. But I read that the Russell Group universities tend to favour facilitating vs non facilitating - I grabbed this (there are a few missing but you get the giste). Is this right? Should I be guiding him towards at least two of the facilitating subjects? What matters at A level? What you love to do or what (with one eye on the future) keeps things broad?

Any advice would be really welcome.

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Pinkissmart · Yesterday 13:41

God, can we all stop with the Russell Group nonsense?

It may be that this thread about A levels is not of interest to you - this is fair enough. However I think that, although the OP mentioned Russell Group in the first post, she has not mentioned it again.

Tomorrowtodaynever · Yesterday 16:36

Pinkissmart · Yesterday 13:41

God, can we all stop with the Russell Group nonsense?

Sorry?

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Pinkissmart · Yesterday 13:41

God, can we all stop with the Russell Group nonsense?

user293948849167 · 25/09/2026 18:03

Bushmillsbabe · 25/09/2026 14:30

To me it feels like there is a lot of overlap there. Philosophy and psychology are both quite similar. These and drama will all be very essay based. I would swop one of philosophy and psychology for a more factual subject, like a science.

Philosophy and psychology really aren’t that similar, I think they complement eachother quite well

user293948849167 · 25/09/2026 18:01

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

Yes if these are the three he enjoys most this is absolutely fine as a combination.
There are quite a few different directions he could go in for degree subjects.
He should have a look at some potential degree courses before making a final
decision just to make sure he’s ok with ruling out biology and the possibility of doing a biological science degree

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 14:49

clary · 25/09/2026 14:46

Is that from the college prospectus @Tomorrowtodaynever or the AQA website?

This caught my eye There will also be some reading of original texts in philosophy to gain precise understandings of thinker’s ideas. [sic] some reading? most of the paper is asking about original texts, either directly as in "talk about XXXX DWM's views on YYY" or indirectly "discuss the theory of ABC" but you will need to know about the people who write about it.

Sorry to be a doomsayer but IMO and E phi is sold on the premise of "you will sit in class debating the rights and wrongs of gaming/social media/smoking/the death penalty" ooh fun, when if you look at the exam papers you need to write essays on what people thought, so you need to read and understand that. If that is of interest then happy days for sure.

From the college prospectus

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clary · 25/09/2026 14:46

Is that from the college prospectus @Tomorrowtodaynever or the AQA website?

This caught my eye There will also be some reading of original texts in philosophy to gain precise understandings of thinker’s ideas. [sic] some reading? most of the paper is asking about original texts, either directly as in "talk about XXXX DWM's views on YYY" or indirectly "discuss the theory of ABC" but you will need to know about the people who write about it.

Sorry to be a doomsayer but IMO and E phi is sold on the premise of "you will sit in class debating the rights and wrongs of gaming/social media/smoking/the death penalty" ooh fun, when if you look at the exam papers you need to write essays on what people thought, so you need to read and understand that. If that is of interest then happy days for sure.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 14:37

clary · 25/09/2026 13:48

No essays in maths A level :) some analysis in science A levels but not essays as such.

Philosophy A level – sample question: Does functionalism give a convincing account of mental states? 25 marks for that one and quite a lot of space on the paper. There are shorter questions too - example Explain the difference between Bentham’s quantitative hedonistic utilitarianism and Mill’s qualitative hedonistic utilitarianism. That's only worth 5 marks. I could answer that one actually! <dredges up uni degree knowledge>

This is the Philosophy A outline: What will I study?

The A Level Philosophy course is taught in a thematic way, covering four themes:

  • Epistemology
  • Ethics (or Moral philosophy)
  • Philosophy of Mind (or metaphysics of mind)
  • Philosophy of Religion (or ‘metaphysics of God’)
In first year, we start with Epistemology (the study of knowledge) where you will explore topics such as where knowledge comes from and whether we can trust what our senses tell us about the world. The next theme, Ethics, looks into morality and considers a range of different ethical approaches including theories like utilitarianism and deontological ethics as well as applied ethics issues such as eating animals and killing in computer games. In second year we start Philosophy of Mind which explores the nature of the mind and whether consciousness is something non-physical (like a soul) or instead explainable in purely physical terms. Finally, Philosophy of Religion covers arguments for and against the existence of God as well as questions around the problem of evil and God’s attributes. Within each of the four philosophical themes studied, you will have a chance to engage with the works of key philosophers who have theories and arguments related to those areas, from the Ancient Greek philosophers Aristotle and Plato, to more modern thinkers like Rene Descartes, John Locke, David Hume and Immanuel Kant, all the way to modern thinkers such as Bertrand Russell, AJ Ayer and Daniel Dennett. The Philosophy A Level is a Western Philosophy course but that’s not to say that points about other world philosophies won’t come up in discussions in classes just that the focus in the course material and what you are examined on is very much Western-focused. The Philosophy A Level will help you to understand the evolution of ideas in Western Philosophy and how differing schools of thought and perspectives emerge over time.

Is this course right for me?

Philosophy is a great course for those who want to explore issues in depth and are not afraid to explore ideas and theories that may seem abstract or difficult to grasp at first. While we look at some of the big questions, we also look at many of the ideas that other subjects skip over, like how can you be sure that what you observe in science is real? It is also important that students who study the subject are open to examining theories and ideas that may be different from their own. It’s also crucial that students can think clearly, precisely and with the careful use of logic. This is because we are not looking for people’s opinions or outlandish theories but their arguments built on evidence and argument.

Students often find philosophy very challenging at first and it can be a bit of a shock when they start while being a stimulating subject, it is also a demanding one. But over time students develop the skills to evaluate their own answers and formulate responses. You will learn how to build an argument and to spot logical flaws whilst thinking critically, meaning debate and discussion are key in lessons as a method used to achieve this. There will also be some reading of original texts in philosophy to gain precise understandings of thinker’s ideas.

Where next?

A Level Philosophy students go on to pursue a wide range of careers. The skills developed on the course are useful for the charity sector, environmental work, government careers, policy work, business strategy and management as well as emerging roles in AI (artificial intelligence) and medicine, especially with how these roles may intersect with ethics. Often philosophy is the perfect degree to have for the challenging job that has no specific subject requirement.
Many of our students go on to study philosophy at university and the course sets them up really well for this. For other subject and career routes, Philosophy provides a range of transferrable skills, including: logical and analytical thinking and reasoning, problem solving, written and oral communication, ability to interpret, condense and clarify information, ability to formulate your own opinions and defend them in debate and the ability to interpret and analyse a variety of different information. Useful websites to research careers and wider progression options could include Prospects, All About Careers and The Apprenticeship Guide.

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Bushmillsbabe · 25/09/2026 14:30

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

To me it feels like there is a lot of overlap there. Philosophy and psychology are both quite similar. These and drama will all be very essay based. I would swop one of philosophy and psychology for a more factual subject, like a science.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 14:07

Thanks again, everyone. I agree it's about the sweet spot between what he really enjoys and what he'll do well in.

Discussions continue. He won't do maths. He's not shown any interest whatsoever

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clary · 25/09/2026 13:48

No essays in maths A level :) some analysis in science A levels but not essays as such.

Philosophy A level – sample question: Does functionalism give a convincing account of mental states? 25 marks for that one and quite a lot of space on the paper. There are shorter questions too - example Explain the difference between Bentham’s quantitative hedonistic utilitarianism and Mill’s qualitative hedonistic utilitarianism. That's only worth 5 marks. I could answer that one actually! <dredges up uni degree knowledge>

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 13:15

Thanks all. Presumably it's sciences and maths that are not essay based?

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clary · 25/09/2026 12:41

Mulledjuice · 25/09/2026 12:33

That it sounds like a lot of reading and essays for someone you've said doesn't like too much of either.

it's worth him facing up to whether it is reading he doesn't like or reading fiction that he doesnt like.

Also check whether Drama is considered for the unis/courses he wants to keep open.

I doubt if there is any course @Tomorrowtodaynever ‘s DS is aiming for with those choices that won’t accept drama. It’s a perfectly acceptable A level choice for any course that doesn’t require specific subjects.

The only choices unis don’t accept are critical thinking and something else similar which IIRC are no longer offered anyway.

Agree tho re reading and essays

SometimesTheIntrusiveThoughtsWin · 25/09/2026 12:36

Maths is a good base a-level, it opens a lot of doors degree choices and jobs. If you like anything vaguely sciencey or financey. Obvs if English lit and MFL is your thing - then not the maths.

However he does have to enjoy the subjects he wants todo. It is also better if they complement each other - but not the end of the world if they don’t. DC2 has had to accept his offers will be higher from Unis because his a-levels don’t compliment each other.

Mulledjuice · 25/09/2026 12:33

also - is that 3 brand new subjects? quite risky

Mulledjuice · 25/09/2026 12:33

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

That it sounds like a lot of reading and essays for someone you've said doesn't like too much of either.

it's worth him facing up to whether it is reading he doesn't like or reading fiction that he doesnt like.

Also check whether Drama is considered for the unis/courses he wants to keep open.

bogstandardaf · 25/09/2026 12:31

Study what he's best at and most interested in. It's easier to get good marks and get the work and revision done if it comes naturally. Don't choose based on teachers: you have no idea if they will still be at the school and if your DS will get allocated to them. Picking subjects he enjoys and gets good marks at will create opportunities for degree courses he enjoys, is interested in and gets good marks in. That's more important that any thoughts about traditional subjects or RG universities.

clary · 25/09/2026 12:22

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 12:15

Thank you - yes, he seems really really keen on what he read about philosophy at the college. I haven't read the spec but I will. He has no idea what to study at Uni so it's difficult to know how to advise

If a YP really has no idea what they want to do at uni then I personally (I mean in general) would recommend a subject that they cannot pick up again if they drop it (such as biology or maths in his case) – but only if they would do as well (in their and teachers' opinions). No point getting a D in maths if he would get a B in philosophy.

You do say he has no idea what he wants to study, but in fact based on your posts he clearly does. Not Eng lit, not geography, not MFL. And based on these choices, not engineering, medicine, vet med, biology, physics, chemistry or maths. That's all totally fine. As long as he realises it and is OK with it.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 12:15

clary · 25/09/2026 12:09

OP those A levels are fine if they represent what he is interested in and will get a good grade in.

I note though that you started off talking about fac subjects and keeping options open, so you should know that those A levels don’t open any uni doors that are not opened by pretty much any A level combo. That’s fine as long as he doesn’t intend to go through those doors, if that makes sense.

So degrees he could do with those A levels include things like psychology (yes a science such as psych or any other science is useful for this, but plenty of unis don’t demand it), philosophy, geography, history, sociology, criminology, law, classical civ, politics, marketing. For the majority of that list, no specific subject is needed, so you could do them with A levels in maths, biology and history – which would also open other doors. Or any other combo.

But as long as he is happy with that then no worries. Does he know what philosophy involves? My uni degree included it and it was not discussing the big issues of the day haha. It was what did lots of DWM (Hume, Locke, Leibnitz Russell) think about this rather dull theory? Looking at the A level papers the spec is similar if simpler. A lot of reading in all those choices btw.

Thank you - yes, he seems really really keen on what he read about philosophy at the college. I haven't read the spec but I will. He has no idea what to study at Uni so it's difficult to know how to advise

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clary · 25/09/2026 12:09

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

OP those A levels are fine if they represent what he is interested in and will get a good grade in.

I note though that you started off talking about fac subjects and keeping options open, so you should know that those A levels don’t open any uni doors that are not opened by pretty much any A level combo. That’s fine as long as he doesn’t intend to go through those doors, if that makes sense.

So degrees he could do with those A levels include things like psychology (yes a science such as psych or any other science is useful for this, but plenty of unis don’t demand it), philosophy, geography, history, sociology, criminology, law, classical civ, politics, marketing. For the majority of that list, no specific subject is needed, so you could do them with A levels in maths, biology and history – which would also open other doors. Or any other combo.

But as long as he is happy with that then no worries. Does he know what philosophy involves? My uni degree included it and it was not discussing the big issues of the day haha. It was what did lots of DWM (Hume, Locke, Leibnitz Russell) think about this rather dull theory? Looking at the A level papers the spec is similar if simpler. A lot of reading in all those choices btw.

Tomorrowtodaynever · 25/09/2026 11:42

Hi everyone, hope you're well.

The process continues

What do people think about Psychology, Philosophy and Drama? Thoughts would be appreciated

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maudelovesharold · 16/09/2026 10:51

HelpfulHelena · 11/09/2026 22:20

Maths A level is considered helpful for a psychology degree, because of the statistical part

You definitely don’t need Maths A Level to do well in a Psychology degree, though. A good GCSE is fine. Dc did BSc Psychology (you can do a BA in Psychology, but the BSc is what’s usually offered by RG unis) and had a facility with Maths, but did not want to do the A level, and was once advised that people shouldn’t do Maths A Level unless they really love Maths. The jump from GCSE to A Level is bigger than from A to Degree level, apparently?

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 16/09/2026 10:45

I would also suggest checking how he does with coursework. DD hated coursework as she struggled to stay on topic and not link in too much and exceed the word count, whereas she can do exams without too much bother. This and the fact the A' Level History covered Elizabethans, which she did for GCSE and was a bit bored of by then, was a game changer for her.

SmallDFartyCarNRG · 16/09/2026 10:41

One of mine was an A*-B across 11 GCSEs and it made it very hard to decide what to take. Personally I think it is too young to narrow down to 3 subjects. Luckily her 6th form asks pupils to take 4 to start and drop one after term 1, so they can see how much the work load is as well as whether they enjoy the subject matter. She wasn't sure but "thought" she might like medicine but really was interested in Psychology, History, Politics and Computer Science but wanted to keep STEM open with Physics and Chemistry. We discovered you can do a degree with Comp Sci without taking A' Level anyway (she got 8 at GCSE) so she could drop that. They suggested Psychology, History and Politics are essay subjects, so to whittle off one of those. After finding Politics very dry and enjoying Psychology far more (seeing links across other topics she likes in coding) she dropped Politics and History after term 1 and is doing Psychology, Chem and Physics now. Which is a long way off her initial choices but keeps the STEM open. I think having one more essay based is looked for by most Uni's for balance.

Jasmin71 · 16/09/2026 10:32

A levels are something you have to want to do. There is no point choosing subjects that you have no interest in. Therein lies a boring long slog!

Keep at least 2 as something he is good at and cares about.