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To think that Labour’s/Andy Burnham’s tariffs on Jewish Settlers and their statement on Palestine is a well timed publicity stunt to divert attention from their complete lack of inaction regarding illegal migrants arriving by boat.

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bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 06:50

I don’t meant to be cynical but I think Labour have done this to carry favour with those who want to ditch Labour for the Green Party. We all know Labour isn’t run by its leader, instead by their back benchers!

What the Settlers are doing on the West Bank is horrific, however Labour were not being so vocal a few weeks ago when the rest of the world was. It feels a ‘well-timed’ publicity stunt to take away attention from their complete inaction about the amount of illegal immigrants arriving in this country. I was appalled by the protests over the weekend. And as a woman with a daughter, these thugs do not protest in my name. However, the government MUST address the fact that we have thousands of undocumented male immigrants coming into the UK free to go wherever they want. Andy Burnham is happy to house them in their thousands wherever he sees fit and I have not heard him OR his government talk about women’s safety once. Burnham can make as many cosy ‘I’m just a man who goes to Greggs and likes a pint.’ Videos as he wants but until he acknowledges how undocumented men pose a great risk to women’s safety, I won’t be supporting him or his party.

Please do not come up with facts and stats about white British males, I am acutely aware of the violence they also inflict against women and equally appalled by the Government’s inaction over this. But I find it horrific that if you have no documents and the government have no idea who you are you’re free to roam. This should not be allowed.

I feel so ignored as a woman in the UK our safety and wellbeing is way down the governments’ long list of priorities. I’m sick of the back benchers and those swaying to the far left or far right being given so much air time, whilst those of us in the middle are ignored day in and day out I voted for Labour in the last election but never again!

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IceCreamCone543 · 09/09/2026 07:41

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 07:36

It’s a crass tactic to pander to the Muslim vote in the upcoming by-election resulting from Starmer’s exit which will be Labour vs Green.

I never thought I’d have to live being governed by an openly anti semitic government. I can’t imagine how awful it must be for any Jewish people as they are seen as collateral damage by the Labour Party who are reliant on the Muslim vote to survive.

How exactly are they "anti semitic"? As they have dared to criticise Israeli behaviour?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:40

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 07:36

It’s a crass tactic to pander to the Muslim vote in the upcoming by-election resulting from Starmer’s exit which will be Labour vs Green.

I never thought I’d have to live being governed by an openly anti semitic government. I can’t imagine how awful it must be for any Jewish people as they are seen as collateral damage by the Labour Party who are reliant on the Muslim vote to survive.

If it's a crass tactic because of the by-election, why do you think 11 other countries took the same step yesterday?

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:40

Can we start putting on chartered jets for the Calais lot, so I can go a day without hearing about the fucking boats?

So fucking tedious.

Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:39

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:37

@Zonderyes! It was disgusting and horrendous. Also, the way that Jenrick then mocked the women who were attacked was sickening and made a mockery of violence against women. I loathe Reform and if you saw in my original post I also have no time for the thuggery of the anti migrant protesters who claim to be doing it for the ‘women’ and ‘children’ - despite what some posters on this thread believe I am not a daily mail loving, right wing supporter! But I do passionately believe in women’s safety again ALL men - including (as I said) white British males. However, I am concerned about undocumented illegal male immigrants who come to the UK. That seems to upset a lot of people on this thread. And that’s ok, we’re allowed to have different opinions.

I doubt there's anyone who would disagree with you about violence against women on here. However clearly there's disagreement with you on what's going on with the small boats.

These boats are used as a dog whistle by the far right, blowing everything out of proportion. Your comment about the lack of action (which you have said is what you meant) is clearly wrong.

Ohyoudodoyou · 09/09/2026 07:38

People blindly ignoring the very changes taking place around them. My local area has changed beyond recognition and we are fully aware that the people here now running businesses (Afghan and Albanian here locally) have such a grip on the local community (trafficking, drugs, brothels, money laundering all openly operating in plain view) and the NCA unable to tackle it. It may or may not have happened in your area yet, but don’t worry it will. The rise in crime alongside that on my formerly lovely area (stabbings, assaults, robberies, sexual violence, shoplifting) is happening everywhere. Most of these are not reported. Or in my case, they are reported and the police do follow up (three times…) yes. I do link it with the arrival of undocumented young men, it’s a global business and we are politely fiddling whilst Rome burns!

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:37

@Zonderyes! It was disgusting and horrendous. Also, the way that Jenrick then mocked the women who were attacked was sickening and made a mockery of violence against women. I loathe Reform and if you saw in my original post I also have no time for the thuggery of the anti migrant protesters who claim to be doing it for the ‘women’ and ‘children’ - despite what some posters on this thread believe I am not a daily mail loving, right wing supporter! But I do passionately believe in women’s safety again ALL men - including (as I said) white British males. However, I am concerned about undocumented illegal male immigrants who come to the UK. That seems to upset a lot of people on this thread. And that’s ok, we’re allowed to have different opinions.

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Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:37

JasmineTea11 · 09/09/2026 07:34

No, the numbers of people arriving by boat, and migration generally, are significantly down on recent years, so your theory doesn't add up.

However the sanctions are just a token signal, and probably won't make any difference to Israeli govt.

Although it does seem to have upset them enough to close the British consulate.

Allswellthatendswelll · 09/09/2026 07:37

JasmineTea11 · 09/09/2026 07:34

No, the numbers of people arriving by boat, and migration generally, are significantly down on recent years, so your theory doesn't add up.

However the sanctions are just a token signal, and probably won't make any difference to Israeli govt.

They send a message and they are in line with other countries. I am not an expert on Israeli politics but I do know there is an election there soon and hope for a less hard-line government.

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 07:36

It’s a crass tactic to pander to the Muslim vote in the upcoming by-election resulting from Starmer’s exit which will be Labour vs Green.

I never thought I’d have to live being governed by an openly anti semitic government. I can’t imagine how awful it must be for any Jewish people as they are seen as collateral damage by the Labour Party who are reliant on the Muslim vote to survive.

JasmineTea11 · 09/09/2026 07:34

No, the numbers of people arriving by boat, and migration generally, are significantly down on recent years, so your theory doesn't add up.

However the sanctions are just a token signal, and probably won't make any difference to Israeli govt.

Allswellthatendswelll · 09/09/2026 07:34

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:22

@WingnutSOSwhy? Why not the collective outrage for the other atrocities I’ve mentioned? I don’t see mass protests, I don’t see governments decrying the sexual violence against women in these conflict zones.

We don't have strong trade or diplomatic links with places like the Sudan. Whereas Israel is our ally who we have historically strong links with. We also have a policy of supporting a two state solution. So it's a consistent part of our foreign policy to sanction them for allowing ethnic cleansing.

However as you object to someone for a picture of them eating something ten years ago I suspect nuance is lost on you to be honest.

Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:34

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:30

@WingnutSOSso I am not allowed to have an opinion? Genuinely, all you’ve done is just tell me what I am allowed to think. It must be a great view from up there in your ivory tower.

Projection?

Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:33

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:26

@WingnutSOS😂😂 why because I care about violence against women?

Are you also pushing for action against the men who attacked the women at the Reform conference? That made my "blood boil", as did Farage's response from the stage as he watched.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:32

@PinkWaffleMakeryes! Sadly if only that was the case!

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WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:31

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:30

@WingnutSOSso I am not allowed to have an opinion? Genuinely, all you’ve done is just tell me what I am allowed to think. It must be a great view from up there in your ivory tower.

By all means have an opinion. Don’t expect others to share it.

PinkWaffleMaker · 09/09/2026 07:31

It’s almost as if we should never have left the EU and we need more safe and legal routes for migrants to claim asylum before they get here.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:30

@WingnutSOSso I am not allowed to have an opinion? Genuinely, all you’ve done is just tell me what I am allowed to think. It must be a great view from up there in your ivory tower.

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monkeysox · 09/09/2026 07:30

Limeandfigs · 09/09/2026 06:57

You're completely right, there is a lack of inaction.

Thanks to the various actions taken, small boat crossings are actually down in numbers from previous years.

This.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:29

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:25

@MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack 😂😂😂 yes it’s really shallow! I wasn’t being serious! Sometimes you can be ironic on Mumsnet!

Oh. Was your comment supposed to be funny? What were you trying to achieve through your "irony" exactly?

In the context of your other posts, it seemed entirely believable to me that you meant it seriously.

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:29

@Limeandfigsyes! I support a lot of charities that help women impacted by male violence, including Action Aid and WomenKind and in the UK I am active part of Women’s Aid!

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WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:28

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:26

@WingnutSOS😂😂 why because I care about violence against women?

As If anyone thinks that’s the driver for the “stop the boats” rhetoric.

Summerhillsquare · 09/09/2026 07:27

Top work on the sowing division talking points there ! "Please don't quote facts and stats", yeah, why let them get in the way of a good story? Full marks!

Zonder · 09/09/2026 07:27

TremendousFlatulence · 09/09/2026 07:04

"A complete lack of inaction..." Ummm - doesn't that mean...?

And why do people write their titles like bloody essays?

Yes! I love that @bluespotsandztarz is complaining about a lack of inaction! Go Burnham!

Also "however Labour were not being so vocal a few weeks ago when the rest of the world was.". So like before Burnham was PM? He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:26

@WingnutSOS😂😂 why because I care about violence against women?

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Limeandfigs · 09/09/2026 07:26

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:22

@WingnutSOSwhy? Why not the collective outrage for the other atrocities I’ve mentioned? I don’t see mass protests, I don’t see governments decrying the sexual violence against women in these conflict zones.

Then you haven't been paying attention.

Sanctions at this level are hard to apply to countries like Sudan, the DRC etc because we don't do trade with them on the same level.

If you want to start some protest movements to get more attention then I'm sure it would be welcomed too.