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To think that Labour’s/Andy Burnham’s tariffs on Jewish Settlers and their statement on Palestine is a well timed publicity stunt to divert attention from their complete lack of inaction regarding illegal migrants arriving by boat.

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bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 06:50

I don’t meant to be cynical but I think Labour have done this to carry favour with those who want to ditch Labour for the Green Party. We all know Labour isn’t run by its leader, instead by their back benchers!

What the Settlers are doing on the West Bank is horrific, however Labour were not being so vocal a few weeks ago when the rest of the world was. It feels a ‘well-timed’ publicity stunt to take away attention from their complete inaction about the amount of illegal immigrants arriving in this country. I was appalled by the protests over the weekend. And as a woman with a daughter, these thugs do not protest in my name. However, the government MUST address the fact that we have thousands of undocumented male immigrants coming into the UK free to go wherever they want. Andy Burnham is happy to house them in their thousands wherever he sees fit and I have not heard him OR his government talk about women’s safety once. Burnham can make as many cosy ‘I’m just a man who goes to Greggs and likes a pint.’ Videos as he wants but until he acknowledges how undocumented men pose a great risk to women’s safety, I won’t be supporting him or his party.

Please do not come up with facts and stats about white British males, I am acutely aware of the violence they also inflict against women and equally appalled by the Government’s inaction over this. But I find it horrific that if you have no documents and the government have no idea who you are you’re free to roam. This should not be allowed.

I feel so ignored as a woman in the UK our safety and wellbeing is way down the governments’ long list of priorities. I’m sick of the back benchers and those swaying to the far left or far right being given so much air time, whilst those of us in the middle are ignored day in and day out I voted for Labour in the last election but never again!

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AmethystDeceiver · 09/09/2026 08:05

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:59

AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHAT A BOAT IS.

😁😁😁

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · 09/09/2026 08:05

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:57

Chap at work wanted to explain to me the benefits of undocumented migration by starting with the Israelites you couldn’t make it up.
I bet you could!!!!

Nope !

Asked him if he agreed with Hitlers migration across Europe, you can imagine how that went!

BitOutOfPractice · 09/09/2026 08:04

SuperSugarHigh · 09/09/2026 07:59

Calling the significant and complex issues re Palestine a “pet project” is really fucking offensive.

And bleating on about protecting women and girls is so pathetically transparent.

Honestly this is the bit that makes me FURIOUS about the “stop the boats” brigade. I’d be prepared to bet a fair amount that a significant about of the men in balaclavas have got previous for abusing women and girls. They don’t give a STUFF about women’s safety. It’s a wafer thin veneer of camouflage for their real issue. Not a single one has ever been on a protest specifically for women’s rights before the far right jumped on this particular bandwagon. I’d bet my mortgage on that!

And I for one see right through it.

Zonder · 09/09/2026 08:02

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:46

@Zonderyes I do realise small boats if 100% a far right issue and I would also say Palestine is a far left issue! Believe it or not I’m not the devil incarnate for my opinion. I’ve very down the middle with my politics but violence against women is something I do care about and I do not like the fact this government aren’t taking women’s concerns seriously! That doesn’t mean I am a racist or horrible human being or part of the Daily Mail brigade. But I also totally appreciate your point of view and the points you raise! Probably shouldn’t post on Mumsnet until I’ve had a coffee! Haha x

What on earth do you mean that Palestine is a far left issue? Please explain. I can wait til you've had your coffee if that helps.

Xanhi · 09/09/2026 08:02

It is nothing to do with small boats. It is to do with votes. There is a London by-election coming up (Keir Starmer's seat)in a a few weeks. The Greens are hoping to win it from Labour. Zac Polanski is likely to be their candidate so they are in with a good chance. A green win would be embarrassing for Labour and wonder-boy Burnham. Labour are likely to select a Muslim candidate so both parties are fighting to win over the pro Palestinian vote.

YourChicShark · 09/09/2026 08:01

To say that there has been a "complete lack of inaction regarding illegal migrants arriving by boat" is factually wrong.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/qa-why-have-small-boat-arrivals-declined-in-2026/

How much have small boat arrivals declined in 2026?
Small boat arrivals over the English Channel declined significantly in the first seven months of 2026. Around 14,200 people had arrived by small boat by the end of July this year. That was 44% fewer than in 2025, and 16% fewer than in 2024. A total of 30,200 people arrived by small boat in the year ending 31 July 2026. That was slightly less than when Labour took office – arrivals stood at 31,500 in the year ending 5 July 2024.

Government policies are having a significant impact, more than half of the attempted boat crossings for the week ending 30 August 2026 were prevented. See here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/weekly-summary-of-small-boat-arrivals-and-preventions

Facts matter.

Q&A: Why have small boat arrivals declined in 2026? - Migration Observatory

Small boat arrivals declined significantly in the first seven months of 2026. This commentary analyses the numbers and explains what we can – and cannot – know about the reasons for the decline.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/qa-why-have-small-boat-arrivals-declined-in-2026/

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 08:00

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:40

If it's a crass tactic because of the by-election, why do you think 11 other countries took the same step yesterday?

You could equally argue why did this week’s German election deliver an enormous win for the AfD?

Either way if you are defending Labour as not being anti semitic in part due to a chunk of their voter base then I’m afraid you are severely deluded.

Zonder · 09/09/2026 08:00

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:40

If it's a crass tactic because of the by-election, why do you think 11 other countries took the same step yesterday?

Clearly all concerned about the local by election coming up!

SuperSugarHigh · 09/09/2026 07:59

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:13

@Thepeopleversusworki haven’t said that the small boat crossings haven’t decreased but the I have said the numbers arriving are still high and I would say it is the biggest issue in our country right now! I don’t really care for Milliband’s pet projects. With the previous government it was Net Zero and with this one it is Palestine. My main issue, is the fact that thousands of undocumented men are entering the country but for some reason, I’m meant to be OK with that?

Calling the significant and complex issues re Palestine a “pet project” is really fucking offensive.

And bleating on about protecting women and girls is so pathetically transparent.

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:59

AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHAT A BOAT IS.

BitOutOfPractice · 09/09/2026 07:58

Are “the boats” the new “at least they know what a woman is” on MN? Shoehorned into every other single issue?

titchy · 09/09/2026 07:58

WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:01

You do know governments have to do more than one thing at a time?

Not everything is about the boats 🤦‍♀️

No but why waste an opportunity eh?

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:57

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · 09/09/2026 07:53

I know you know this but for the bellends at the back. It’s because there virtue signalling anti semites .

Chap at work wanted to explain to me the benefits of undocumented migration by starting with the Israelites you couldn’t make it up.

They are so fucking thick yet the blue haired socialist worker crew many of whom are on MN and frighteningly infect our public services can’t see their own incredible hypocrisy.

If you're going to describe others as"fucking thick", then perhaps use the grammar and spellchecking functions before you post.

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:57

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · 09/09/2026 07:53

I know you know this but for the bellends at the back. It’s because there virtue signalling anti semites .

Chap at work wanted to explain to me the benefits of undocumented migration by starting with the Israelites you couldn’t make it up.

They are so fucking thick yet the blue haired socialist worker crew many of whom are on MN and frighteningly infect our public services can’t see their own incredible hypocrisy.

Chap at work wanted to explain to me the benefits of undocumented migration by starting with the Israelites you couldn’t make it up.
I bet you could!!!!

Friendlygingercat · 09/09/2026 07:54

Perhaps we should begin by calling these so called settlers by the name we normally apply to individuals and groups who illegally take over property which belongs to someone else - SQUATTERS.

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · 09/09/2026 07:53

I know you know this but for the bellends at the back. It’s because there virtue signalling anti semites .

Chap at work wanted to explain to me the benefits of undocumented migration by starting with the Israelites you couldn’t make it up.

They are so fucking thick yet the blue haired socialist worker crew many of whom are on MN and frighteningly infect our public services can’t see their own incredible hypocrisy.

AquamarinePearlGold · 09/09/2026 07:53

WingnutSOS · 09/09/2026 07:01

You do know governments have to do more than one thing at a time?

Not everything is about the boats 🤦‍♀️

Right?!

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:53

thepariscrimefiles · 09/09/2026 07:50

Ed Miliband's 'pet project' is supported by Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden who all released a joint statement. Are they all just trying to deflect from small boat crossings too?

Apparently they are just trying to ensure that Zack Polanski doesn't win a London by election.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 09/09/2026 07:51

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 07:36

It’s a crass tactic to pander to the Muslim vote in the upcoming by-election resulting from Starmer’s exit which will be Labour vs Green.

I never thought I’d have to live being governed by an openly anti semitic government. I can’t imagine how awful it must be for any Jewish people as they are seen as collateral damage by the Labour Party who are reliant on the Muslim vote to survive.

Please clarify what exactly is antisemitic about the government's actions?

Do you think it is possible to criticise the Israeli government without being antisemitic?

Do you think it is antisemitic to be concerned about the actions of the Israeli settlers?

Is there a way in which the UK government could have taken action on these issues without you concluding that they were antisemitic? What do you think they should have done differently?

I thought Ed Miliband chose his words very carefully yesterday and that he tried to make the distinctions very clear. I am very interested in understanding what exactly you perceived to be antisemitic.

CrispySquid · 09/09/2026 07:50
  1. Small boat crossings are down by such a significant number its actually quite astonishing how quickly they have had an impact. Look at the Home Office statistics. Down significantly. It's not to do with the boat size or the number of people per boat but the number of individuals crossing - down significantly.
  2. In order to govern, Governments have to and actually are able to focus on more than one problem at a time.
thepariscrimefiles · 09/09/2026 07:50

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:13

@Thepeopleversusworki haven’t said that the small boat crossings haven’t decreased but the I have said the numbers arriving are still high and I would say it is the biggest issue in our country right now! I don’t really care for Milliband’s pet projects. With the previous government it was Net Zero and with this one it is Palestine. My main issue, is the fact that thousands of undocumented men are entering the country but for some reason, I’m meant to be OK with that?

Ed Miliband's 'pet project' is supported by Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden who all released a joint statement. Are they all just trying to deflect from small boat crossings too?

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:50

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:46

@Zonderyes I do realise small boats if 100% a far right issue and I would also say Palestine is a far left issue! Believe it or not I’m not the devil incarnate for my opinion. I’ve very down the middle with my politics but violence against women is something I do care about and I do not like the fact this government aren’t taking women’s concerns seriously! That doesn’t mean I am a racist or horrible human being or part of the Daily Mail brigade. But I also totally appreciate your point of view and the points you raise! Probably shouldn’t post on Mumsnet until I’ve had a coffee! Haha x

Having a coffee instead of stopping the boats?

How very convenient.

11AndCounting · 09/09/2026 07:47

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 07:36

It’s a crass tactic to pander to the Muslim vote in the upcoming by-election resulting from Starmer’s exit which will be Labour vs Green.

I never thought I’d have to live being governed by an openly anti semitic government. I can’t imagine how awful it must be for any Jewish people as they are seen as collateral damage by the Labour Party who are reliant on the Muslim vote to survive.

Yeah absolutely.

12 other countries announced sanctions to prevent sanctions because there's a UK bielection in a month's time - and if it goes badly for Labour, their majority would drop from 167 to 166 - disaster!!!

No wonder the world is taking action.

Really insightful post.

Well done!!!

BOATS!!!!

Hoardasurass · 09/09/2026 07:47

Tbh @bluespotsandztarz I dont think labour care enough about womens safety to use any distraction tactics

bluespotsandztarz · 09/09/2026 07:46

@Zonderyes I do realise small boats if 100% a far right issue and I would also say Palestine is a far left issue! Believe it or not I’m not the devil incarnate for my opinion. I’ve very down the middle with my politics but violence against women is something I do care about and I do not like the fact this government aren’t taking women’s concerns seriously! That doesn’t mean I am a racist or horrible human being or part of the Daily Mail brigade. But I also totally appreciate your point of view and the points you raise! Probably shouldn’t post on Mumsnet until I’ve had a coffee! Haha x

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