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AIBU to feel unfairly ostracised after a joke at the sports club?

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Sasco86 · 08/09/2026 23:39

So a few weeks ago, there was what I perceived as a jokey conversation going on and another mum said her stepson was as gay as they come. I jokingly said that she wouldn’t be getting any grandchildren from him any time soon then. To me, i was just joining in on the jokey conversation and that’s all it was. I have now been ostracised and reported to the safeguarding lead officer at the sports club this happened at. People who were my friends have taken her side because she’s made it far more of a thing than it was and my children have even been told things that are far from true. I almost feel that this person is now trying to bully us out of the club. Adult bullying is by far the most horrible situation I’ve ever experienced.

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Allergictoironing · 09/09/2026 09:23

There is someone where I work who can be professionally offended by anything she overhears in another's conversations that may in some (rare) circumstances be considered offensive in any way. I was reported by her for asking someone I knew very well and was good friends with, if English was her first language as she spoke it so well (despite her having a strong Asian accent, which I didn't mention) - apparently I was being racist enough to one of my closest friends there for that to be highly offensive and merit a full investigation by HR and possible punishment or even being sacked. This person wasn't part of the conversation, was sitting a couple of desks away, and my friend took it as the compliment I intended.

SulkingInTheCatio · 09/09/2026 09:21

I think the key point in the OPs phrase was “anytime soon”. It must surely take longer for a male gay couple to have kids. Either via adoption or surrogacy. It’s not like there’s going to be an accidental pregnancy or even a planned quick pregnancy. So the woman won’t be having grandkids anytime soon. 🤷‍♀️

hollysmumma · 09/09/2026 09:20

gay men are same sex attracted.
men can’t have babies.
Why is it homophobic to say that?

SomeOtherUser · 09/09/2026 09:14

Her reaction was OTT but your comment was ignorant and mean-spirited. Did you apologise sincerely? Everyone says daft things now and again - I wonder if you've owned it fully?

Stingycow · 09/09/2026 09:12

oviraptor21 · 09/09/2026 08:55

Her comment was the homophobic one. Exactly what is "as gay as they come". Your comment was just the reality.

If the SGL doesn't find in your favour I'd be hugely surprised and consider reporting to the governing body of the sport(s) involved as the sports club are preventing your active participation.

"As gay as they come" could mean any number of things, many of them perfectly neutral depending on context.
He's highly active in the gay community/identifies strongly with it?
He's a six on the Kinsey scale/never experimented with girls?
He never questioned his sexuality/knew who he was from a young age?

It could also, of course, be very offensive and stereotypey, but there's nothing in the thread to tell us if that was the case.

PinkyFlamingo · 09/09/2026 09:09

Jokes are meant to be funny. So many people say stupid tni GS and then try to defend themselves "oh I was just joking".

Stingycow · 09/09/2026 09:08

oviraptor21 · 09/09/2026 08:57

Good example
"As neurodivegent as they come" would be highly offensive.
Ditto "as gay ..."

Again, "as neurodivergent as they come" is only "highly offensive" if you view neurodivergence as a shameful thing, or if it's in a context where negative things are being said about neurodivergence.

I picked the neurodivergent example because it actually applies to me and my DC, and in no way would I be offended by it, if said as a neutral descriptive statement by someone who loved/respected me.

As I've said, it definitely could be said offensively based on tone/context, but there's nothing inherently offensive about saying someone is... an identifier that they do in fact identify with.
I wonder if these odd reactions are coming from people who grew up in the "I don't see colour, I don't notice sexuality, etc" era?

pinkfondu · 09/09/2026 09:08

it’s a throw away comment that could just as easily have been said to a friend whose daughter got a big promotion at work.

personally ‘as gay as they come’ is more offensive

Notsosweetcaroline · 09/09/2026 08:58

oviraptor21 · 09/09/2026 08:55

Her comment was the homophobic one. Exactly what is "as gay as they come". Your comment was just the reality.

If the SGL doesn't find in your favour I'd be hugely surprised and consider reporting to the governing body of the sport(s) involved as the sports club are preventing your active participation.

What? Plenty of gay men have kids, how on earth is Is it the reality and how on earth is her comment homophobic,

Viviennemary · 09/09/2026 08:58

It was a crass and thoughtless thing to say. And quite hurtful. But they are making a huge fuss. But the other woman doesnt come across well saying gay as they come. Awful.

Notsosweetcaroline · 09/09/2026 08:58

I also don’t understand op. It’s fine for her to say her son is gay, but why on earth does that mean he won’t have kids?

oviraptor21 · 09/09/2026 08:57

Stingycow · 09/09/2026 08:26

I mean, it's probably not the phrasing I'd naturally use, but no, if talking about someone who is involved and proud in their Black or Jewish identity, I don't see the problem in saying describing it in those terms. ("Disabled" is such a broad term that saying "as disabled as they come" doesn't seem to make sense... but "as neurodivergent as they come", for example, would.)

Again, I can totally understand how if said in a negative tone or in the context of a conversation that contained those offensive stereotypes, it COULD be an offensive or othering statement. But absent those things, this idea that it is inherently offensive seems to have some underlying assumption that being gay, or Black, or Jewish, is something to feel shame over.

I agree that we'll probably never get the full context, however.

Edited

Good example
"As neurodivegent as they come" would be highly offensive.
Ditto "as gay ..."

oviraptor21 · 09/09/2026 08:55

Her comment was the homophobic one. Exactly what is "as gay as they come". Your comment was just the reality.

If the SGL doesn't find in your favour I'd be hugely surprised and consider reporting to the governing body of the sport(s) involved as the sports club are preventing your active participation.

Bufftailed · 09/09/2026 08:51

It’s a dumb thing to say. I would avoid you.

WinterPalace · 09/09/2026 08:49

I'm not lying about thinking it's shitty to comment on a couple's inability to have kids naturally and how that means they won't have kids any time soon. Nothing 'faux" about that, no matter how much orher posters wish it was.

As I said, taking it to safeguarding doesn't make sense to me. If something seems an overreaction there might be more to it than what's described in a few lines in a MN post

Bababear987 · 09/09/2026 08:47

throwaway3749574 · 08/09/2026 23:46

I feel like I’m in a parallel universe. Are we pretending it’s not less likely for a male gay couple to have children than a hetero couple? Of course they can adopt or use a surrogate but I think also more male gay couples choose to stay childless than hetero couples. Surely. I don’t think it was a ridiculous thing to say at all. A little outdated perhaps but not ridiculous.

Me too im so confused. It was a bit of a mean thing to say from OP but definitely seems an overreaction

5128gap · 09/09/2026 08:32

This is what happens when the highly insensitive meets the overlly sensitive I'm afraid.
You need to think before you speak and to find an environment that's a better fit for you. The fact they've all jumped on this so heavily without giving you one free pass suggests they probably didnt think you fit in well anyway.

SamTR1 · 09/09/2026 08:30

Absolutely ridiculous reaction from the others. Performative faux outrage is used by people to exert control. Quite frankly it’s pathetic but many appear to subscribe to it as this thread shows.

Timeforachange26 · 09/09/2026 08:29

oustedbymymate · 09/09/2026 08:28

How is her son being gay a jokey conversation. What you said was inappropriate

It was her saying about the son being gay not the OP

Timeforachange26 · 09/09/2026 08:29

Wineryvinery · 09/09/2026 05:32

Did she think you were rubbing her face in it a bit?She might be ok with her ds being gay but not have come to terms with the likelihood of no grandkids. Sounds like this has been blown out of proportion.

Even if the stepson did have kids they wouldn't be her grandkids anyway

oustedbymymate · 09/09/2026 08:28

How is her son being gay a jokey conversation. What you said was inappropriate

OatcakeCravings · 09/09/2026 08:28

FGS, report her for homophobia for saying 'as gay as they come'

While your comment was tactless and not funny at all, the drama that has been created around it among adults is absolutely pathetic. Sometimes we all say things that don't come out well, that land badly etc. It would be nice if people had the good grace to allow you to apologise and then all move on - you did apologise? As for it being a safeguarding concern, words fail me. One thing is for sure, if this blows over have nothing to do with these assholes again!

Dweetfidilove · 09/09/2026 08:26

She started with an inappropriate comment, you chimed in with an equally/ even more inappropriate comment; she's massively overreacted and friends are taking sides...
Shut the whole club down 🤦🏾‍♀️.

Hellohelga · 09/09/2026 08:26

The comment was ill judged but she’s gone OTT.

BitOutOfPractice · 09/09/2026 08:26

People say this to me all the time (my dd is gay) and tbh It doesn’t register enough for me to be offended (maybe because I also know that she doesn’t want children).