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AIBU to feel unfairly ostracised after a joke at the sports club?

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Sasco86 · 08/09/2026 23:39

So a few weeks ago, there was what I perceived as a jokey conversation going on and another mum said her stepson was as gay as they come. I jokingly said that she wouldn’t be getting any grandchildren from him any time soon then. To me, i was just joining in on the jokey conversation and that’s all it was. I have now been ostracised and reported to the safeguarding lead officer at the sports club this happened at. People who were my friends have taken her side because she’s made it far more of a thing than it was and my children have even been told things that are far from true. I almost feel that this person is now trying to bully us out of the club. Adult bullying is by far the most horrible situation I’ve ever experienced.

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OtterlyAstounding · 09/09/2026 11:28

VividZebra · 09/09/2026 11:23

It was quite a homophobic thing to say. Lots of gay people have children!

According to the English and Welsh census, "6.5% of male couples had children. In comparison, 39.7% of all opposite sex couple families had children."

So it's definitely a lot less likely! Which makes sense, considering a man can't just get pregnant, so would either need to adopt, share a child with a lesbian couple, or use a woman's body in order to procure/buy a child. Interesting to see the stats, actually.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 09/09/2026 11:28

Jokes and banter are fine as long you can fully guarantee that the person you’re bantering with can appreciate it not everyone can. I do have to say though why can’t gay people have children

VividZebra · 09/09/2026 11:23

It was quite a homophobic thing to say. Lots of gay people have children!

Smokeywater · 09/09/2026 11:22

People are so woke now -it was a bit tactless of you and I hope you have apologised - it’s a bit odd for someone to rave about how gay their child is -I suspect she is actually not ok with it thus taking offence at your comment. I would in your shoes decide to stick it out for eg 3months and see how it goes - it will probably be forgotten by then by most people

ginasevern · 09/09/2026 11:21

Loloblue · 09/09/2026 11:16

this was a nasty and untruthful thing for you to say. Plenty of gay people have kids.

Announcing to a group of strangers that your stepson is "as gay as they come" isn't exactly kind or appropriate either.

OtterlyAstounding · 09/09/2026 11:21

Timeforanothernamechange3 · 09/09/2026 11:16

Very different for gay people to make a joke themselves compared to people making it about them. Same for any minority.

I thought that about the stepmother's 'he's as gay as they come' comment - fine for a gay man to say about himself, but a bit homophobic to use about someone else, with the implications that are involved.

OtterlyAstounding · 09/09/2026 11:19

Loloblue · 09/09/2026 11:16

this was a nasty and untruthful thing for you to say. Plenty of gay people have kids.

What's nasty about it?

BunkBedsArePeopleShelves · 09/09/2026 11:18

ifonlytheydlisten · 08/09/2026 23:47

I am aware btw that gay men can have children. I know loads gay couples with kids but I still think it would be generally seen as an innocent joke

Where's the joke though? What is meant to be funny?

Timeforanothernamechange3 · 09/09/2026 11:16

nomoremsniceperson · 09/09/2026 05:54

I have gay friends who've made the exact same joke. Are we pretending it's as quick and easy for a gay couple to have a baby as a hetero couple now? "Anytime soon" doesn't mean he'll never have a baby, just that it will take a while if he does.

Sometimes when there's a jokey conversation going on people join in and say things they wouldn't ordinarily say in order to keep the banter going. You'd have to be pretty humourless and vindictive to pretend this was said with cruel intentions. Jokes often poke fun at the darker things in life in order to make them more bearable.

None of this should need to be said.

Very different for gay people to make a joke themselves compared to people making it about them. Same for any minority.

Loloblue · 09/09/2026 11:16

this was a nasty and untruthful thing for you to say. Plenty of gay people have kids.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 09/09/2026 11:12

Sounds like an extreme overreaction from the sort of people who are always looking for something to find offensive. Sympathies, OP.

Ellemaggie · 09/09/2026 11:08

It was an awkward and inappropriate comment, but to me, the stepmom set the tone by saying "as gay as they come". I would see that as being a stereotype of being gay - ie, camp. If she meant anything different, she could have said it better. But that's life - people make faux pas or use the wrong wording, just as you did. I wouldn't see that it needed such a drastic reaction. But I wonder do people know the details or just that you have been referred to safeguarding? That could involve something much worse than an offensive comment and I think a lot of people if they didn't know the details would assume the worst.

ginasevern · 09/09/2026 11:06

Paganpentacle · 09/09/2026 10:21

Why was she discussing her step-sons sexuality in public anyway?
Thats inappropriate

I totally agree. Discussing someone else's sexuality is inappropriate and saying they are "as gay as they come" is an offensive remark. She should be the one reported to safeguarding.

KarmenPQZ · 09/09/2026 10:58

Have you apologised for your comment?

purplecorkheart · 09/09/2026 10:57

I wonder is this just the straw that broke the camel back? You mention that you perceived the conversation as jokey but was it? Do you often perceive conversation differently than other people and hence say the wrong things?

Otherwise it seems like a over reaction to admittedly not good comment.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 09/09/2026 10:54

I wouldn't say that to someone as having children is quite a sensitive topic. I also wouldn't go ballistic at someone for making comments socially about whether DDs would have children, it seems a very engineered OTT reaction.

Overwhelmedandtired · 09/09/2026 10:50

It was inappropriate and insensitive, as well as incorrect. Not saying you meant it negatively, but hopefully you are learning from many of the responses that it really wasn't the best thing to say. If you were close to them, and were sure they would understand what you meant, it would still be a poor joke but you could move on easier. It appears you weren't close and they have taken it badly.

It doesn't excuse anyone bullying. However, have you apologised at all? Or doubled down on there being nothing wrong with what you said?

The only way I can see out of it is to apologise, say you now understand it was inappropriate to say, you meant it as a joke but admit you were wrong. You can express disappointment in the way they reacted afterwards, two wrongs don't make a right. But yours was first so can't see them doing a U turn, without an apology from you first.

PilotingAWail · 09/09/2026 10:49

Neither of you covered yourselves in glory there.
Not a nice way to be discussing a young man ffs.
Im sorry there are kids caught up in this.
Hopefully you can explain your 'joke ' in better context and apologise if required.
Banter is not your forte by the sounds of it, best avoided in future.

ThreadGuardDog · 09/09/2026 10:45

HollyhocksandPeons · 09/09/2026 00:16

There was no need to kick that woman where it hurts. This was v. cruel.

Not exactly kind to be discussing your stepsons’ sexuality at a social gathering though is it ?

Stressedoutmummyof3 · 09/09/2026 10:43

That's so ridiculous. My DD2 is gay and has already said she has no interest in having children (adopted or by donor sperm) so that's that.
I don't generally go around telling people I barely know that she is gay though and if someone said no grandchildren then I'd agree with them.
It's not offensive. If she's so bloody sensitive about it perhaps she shouldn't bring it up.
Reporting it as a safeguarding issue is just ridiculous.

LoveItaly · 09/09/2026 10:36

OtterlyAstounding · 09/09/2026 10:25

Honestly, her saying her step-son was 'as gay as they come' is the potentially homophobic thing here, if she was (as is likely) referring to him being stereotypically camp, or effeminate.

Completely agree, the step-mother set the tone for the conversation and I doubt her step-son would be pleased to hear himself described in this way. The OP was just stating basic biological facts in a (what she thought) light hearted way, in response. Seems as though the step-mother is just trying to pick a fight, for whatever petty reason.

5MinuteArgument · 09/09/2026 10:34

Inappropriate comments which at one time would've been dealt with there and then are now referred to safeguarding. What a world we live in. Its a bully's charter.

Seymorbutts · 09/09/2026 10:33

Paganpentacle · 09/09/2026 10:21

Why was she discussing her step-sons sexuality in public anyway?
Thats inappropriate

Whether It’s inappropriate depends entirely on the context. Eg. If someone asked “has your step son got a girlfriend” and she said “oh no he’s as gay as they come!” It wouldn’t be inappropriate, being gay isn’t some sort of shameful secret anymore! Unless of course he’s in the closet and not ready to come out but I highly doubt that esp if he’s “as gay they come” which I’d take to mean very camp, loves going out on the gay scene etc.

Nokiding · 09/09/2026 10:31

You should have known better.

There is no humour allowed now. Repent

OtterlyAstounding · 09/09/2026 10:25

Honestly, her saying her step-son was 'as gay as they come' is the potentially homophobic thing here, if she was (as is likely) referring to him being stereotypically camp, or effeminate.

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