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AIBU to want to express support for women who were assaulted at a political conference?

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Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 21:41

To want to send out support to the two women visibly assaulted at a political conference.
I am concerned about the other protesters too and actually anyone who was hurt. But having to listen to jeering from the podium plus the crowd chanting in live TV at the same time must have been so traumatic and the publicity will die down and coverage move on but that can't be easy. Just want to send love and support.

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Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 16:36

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 15:09

Yes that is very abusive.

Strong undercurrents of satisfaction at gobby women being "put in their place" as well. Although probably the same might have happened to a man. I'm not sure though whether if it had been a big burly (but peaceful) bloke the pensioners would have gone for them with the same enthusiasm. I guess it's a hypothetical.

Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 16:34

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 15:03

My posting habits are totally irrelevant. I type quickly. I learned to touch type aged 18. I think quickly so I respond immediately. I'm semi retired, spend quite a bit of time at home so have time on my hands. I post on many threads, relationships, weight loss, and offer my opinion/device. You don't own the forum but you seem to think you've got a right to try and embarrass me into suggesting I'm up to something. Do you do the same to other posters. Once and for all, I am NOT am a troll, a Reform party member, Katie Hopkins! You can try and be clever and throw something out there and then deny it. I'm not going to be bullied by a group of posters into stopping posting because my views are unpopular.

You have every right to post on Mumsnet as often as you wish.
Sometimes your posts come across as combative/disruptive and even, dare I say it, like heckling? You have every right to do this of course. There is just a strong irony that this thread is about whether or not it is acceptable to hit a woman with a stick and grab her by the throat for being combative and heckling. And here you are being quite combative/repetitive on the thread. Not attacking you. I just think it's ironic.

Everanewbie · 09/09/2026 15:11

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 15:02

These men are Reform. The wish they will ' hold themselves to a higher standard' is a little naive though isn't it, seeing that the leadership seems broadly in support of the actions.

It is disappointment because I agree with their policies, but can't vote for thugs.

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 15:09

Boppydoodah · 09/09/2026 13:02

Yikes 😬 I work in the DV sphere, do you know how many violent men use exactly these words to excuse themselves for beating the shit out of their partners and kids?

"You just make me so crazy, why'd you have to do that, you just pushed me too far, I wouldn't hurt you if you didn't make me, it's your fault" ... you sound just like them.

Yes that is very abusive.

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Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 15:07

BendoftheBeginning · 09/09/2026 13:02

Ironically, the grooming gang men would also say that they care deeply for the wellbeing of the “right type of woman.” But for women they don’t approve of, they believe that righteous people like themselves can do whatever they want to them.

The parallels with what happened at the Refrom conference are pretty clear. Reform has no issue with beating up the “wrong type of woman.” And that was in public! Imagine what happens in private.

I am concerned in general for those ' caught up.'. Many people probably didn't join to be complicit in this kind of thing. They perpetuate the myth of the strong woman but there's no dealing with that.

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LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 15:03

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 14:51

First, I said joined / name changed as I don't know if you joined the forum in May or changed username in May.

Second, I've not attacked you once. I've merely stated factual information about your posting habits.

Third, from what I can see any attempt to challenge your posts or ask questions of you is met with deflection, whataboutery, silence or accusations of personal attacks.

Lastly, and to borrow from you, who are you to tell me how, where and when I can post?

My posting habits are totally irrelevant. I type quickly. I learned to touch type aged 18. I think quickly so I respond immediately. I'm semi retired, spend quite a bit of time at home so have time on my hands. I post on many threads, relationships, weight loss, and offer my opinion/device. You don't own the forum but you seem to think you've got a right to try and embarrass me into suggesting I'm up to something. Do you do the same to other posters. Once and for all, I am NOT am a troll, a Reform party member, Katie Hopkins! You can try and be clever and throw something out there and then deny it. I'm not going to be bullied by a group of posters into stopping posting because my views are unpopular.

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 15:02

Everanewbie · 09/09/2026 12:49

I have two thoughts at the same time.

This woman pretended to be a Reform member to disrupt their conference and she should not have been there in the first place, and could expect to be physically ejected. No one there wanted to listen to her, she was being self-righteous and self-indulgent.

This woman should not have been struck and received forceful blows, and the way the that she was assaulted was disproportionate. These men and Reform should hold themselves to a higher standard than this, and those who landed blows should face criminal action.

These men are Reform. The wish they will ' hold themselves to a higher standard' is a little naive though isn't it, seeing that the leadership seems broadly in support of the actions.

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Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 14:51

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 14:19

In fact @Shakeoffyourchains I am getting tired of your accusations. You don't ever reply to my posts, you make comments about how many times I post. Are you a mod? Lay off and attack the post not the poster.

First, I said joined / name changed as I don't know if you joined the forum in May or changed username in May.

Second, I've not attacked you once. I've merely stated factual information about your posting habits.

Third, from what I can see any attempt to challenge your posts or ask questions of you is met with deflection, whataboutery, silence or accusations of personal attacks.

Lastly, and to borrow from you, who are you to tell me how, where and when I can post?

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 14:19

In fact @Shakeoffyourchains I am getting tired of your accusations. You don't ever reply to my posts, you make comments about how many times I post. Are you a mod? Lay off and attack the post not the poster.

anniegun · 09/09/2026 14:18

Reform supporters will use any excuse to hit a women. Wrong politics, wrong colour, wrong look.

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 14:15

Heckling is not a crime and every party conference has at least one heckler. No other party apart from reform has seen hecklers attacked and the leadership agreed with the attack.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 14:13

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 14:12

Indeed, I'm most active on political threads and I'm pretty consistent in my views. It's not that I don't like that you won't join in, it's more that I'm perplexed by how far you'll go to avoid criticising them.

But of course you're free and welcome to post when and where you want. Just as I'm free to look at the data and highlight it.

For example I've posted around 640 times in 2 and bit years, while you've posted over 4600 times since you joined / name changed in May. That's like 40 posts a day on average, quite the effort really.

What do you mean name changed?

Ihateboris · 09/09/2026 14:12

FrippEnos · 09/09/2026 13:09

I would like to see those that commited the assault brought up before the law.

I would also like those that incited the indient to be brought up before the law as well.

Is heckling a crime? I agree that the thugs who attacked the heckler should be held to account most definitely.

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 14:12

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:49

I could say that I notice you only show up on certain threads, normally with the same theme. Shall I AS and calculate or shall I carry on having a life? Oh, I know, I think I will post when and where I want and if you don't like the fact I don't join in on the tedious Reform witch hunt, I can't help that.

Indeed, I'm most active on political threads and I'm pretty consistent in my views. It's not that I don't like that you won't join in, it's more that I'm perplexed by how far you'll go to avoid criticising them.

But of course you're free and welcome to post when and where you want. Just as I'm free to look at the data and highlight it.

For example I've posted around 640 times in 2 and bit years, while you've posted over 4600 times since you joined / name changed in May. That's like 40 posts a day on average, quite the effort really.

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 14:03

BIossomtoes · 09/09/2026 13:27

You’ve always known who I am. It’s no secret.

Was I right when I said you was Katie Hopkins then? MN deleted it. My other guess was Julie Birchall. You said you were a “Tory” I thought that was odd. Tories don’t call themselves “Tories”.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:49

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 13:44

Outing yourself as the very active poster I was initially talking about.

Quite easily really. There's, at the time if writing this, 265 posts on this thread, 49 of them by you. So roughly one in five posts is a deflection, derailment, whataboutery post from you, and that's how you warp a thread.

But then why am I telling the master how to work?

I could say that I notice you only show up on certain threads, normally with the same theme. Shall I AS and calculate or shall I carry on having a life? Oh, I know, I think I will post when and where I want and if you don't like the fact I don't join in on the tedious Reform witch hunt, I can't help that.

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 13:44

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:18

Outing myself for what? How can posters warp an AIBU thread. If the case is that we are all meant to think the same, why is there a voting poll?

Outing yourself as the very active poster I was initially talking about.

Quite easily really. There's, at the time if writing this, 265 posts on this thread, 49 of them by you. So roughly one in five posts is a deflection, derailment, whataboutery post from you, and that's how you warp a thread.

But then why am I telling the master how to work?

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:34

BIossomtoes · 09/09/2026 13:27

You’ve always known who I am. It’s no secret.

Its no secret who I am either, regardless of the bizarre speculation.

BIossomtoes · 09/09/2026 13:33

napody · 09/09/2026 13:30

Can't shake?! They cultivate it.

Encourage it. Laughing as a woman is assaulted.

napody · 09/09/2026 13:30

Everanewbie · 09/09/2026 13:04

Both awful. From a voter perspective though, it supports my personal conclusions. Zach Polanski is a juvenile graduate of sixth form politics. I agree with most of what Farage and Tice say, but their wider movement just seems to whiff of thuggery that they can't shake.

Can't shake?! They cultivate it.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 13:30

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:21

I was talking about attention seekers when I mentioned the Prescott incident.

So deflection as the thread is about the violence towards a woman at the Reform conference. Something you appear to be able to justify with your whataboutery.

BIossomtoes · 09/09/2026 13:27

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:07

Why should I stop posting, because you say so. Sorry, it doesn't work like that. Thanks for showing me who you are though.

You’ve always known who I am. It’s no secret.

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 13:27

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:18

Outing myself for what? How can posters warp an AIBU thread. If the case is that we are all meant to think the same, why is there a voting poll?

How can you defend this when even the Torygraph are questioning their credibility, the article headline, "The violence against anti-Reform voters should worry us all". This from a paper that employs Isabel Oakeshott, isn't she Richard Tice's girlfriend?

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 13:24

TheSeventh · 09/09/2026 06:57

Sounds like the sort of thing my abusive ex would say

Bloody hell. I know what you mean!

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 13:21

Goldenbear · 09/09/2026 13:17

A hard egg is going to hurt quite a bit more than a milkshake. What did the woman do to justify being hit by the man?

Equally, yet again your deflection from the real issue that is being discussed is as The Telegraph reported, "this is not a decent party for decent people".

I was talking about attention seekers when I mentioned the Prescott incident.

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