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AIBU to want to express support for women who were assaulted at a political conference?

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Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 21:41

To want to send out support to the two women visibly assaulted at a political conference.
I am concerned about the other protesters too and actually anyone who was hurt. But having to listen to jeering from the podium plus the crowd chanting in live TV at the same time must have been so traumatic and the publicity will die down and coverage move on but that can't be easy. Just want to send love and support.

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BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 20:30

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 20:12

Suspended from the party. Charged. Convicted

It's a pity the alleged victims at the conference hall haven't come forward then. What have they got to hide? Do you think John Prescott should have been suspended pending inquiries?

You were the one who seemingly wanted a more recent example of "Politicians punching people?"

Not particularly. I was trying to gauge what you were trying to prove was ‘unusual’ or not. And what it had to do with this story. Feel free to expand.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 20:12

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 19:52

Suspended from the party. Charged. Convicted. Let’s hope Reform acts as quickly. Remind me what this has to do with a group of people beating up a woman.

Suspended from the party. Charged. Convicted

It's a pity the alleged victims at the conference hall haven't come forward then. What have they got to hide? Do you think John Prescott should have been suspended pending inquiries?

You were the one who seemingly wanted a more recent example of "Politicians punching people?"

Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 20:12

CovenOfCheeses · 09/09/2026 17:58

They were impinging on Nigel’s right to free speech and had no business in doing so. They took the risk and should accept the consequences. The courts, the political ombudsmen and protestors have no right to challenge Nigel, only the wise and good people of Clacton should decide whether Nigel was guilty or not.

Well they better get it right or a ton of Reform voters will be coming for them in balaclavas

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Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 20:08

Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 16:36

Strong undercurrents of satisfaction at gobby women being "put in their place" as well. Although probably the same might have happened to a man. I'm not sure though whether if it had been a big burly (but peaceful) bloke the pensioners would have gone for them with the same enthusiasm. I guess it's a hypothetical.

There were male protestors I think- I only saw footage of one being carried out but not what preceeded it.

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Warmlight1 · 09/09/2026 20:05

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 17:40

I totally agree.
It's about intimidation. Intimidate women by physically assaulting them so they won't disagree with reform in public again. And to try to scare anyone else who might have been thinking about publicly disagreeing or heckling.

Also immediately allege she ' hurt herself' to try I assume to manage any liability
Could there be liability? At a corporate level?

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Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 19:54

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 19:41

Politicians punching people? Well yes, you had to go back 25 years.

This Labour MP was convicted of punching a constituent to the ground last year;

Feb 2025
MP jailed for punching constituent in street walks free after appealing against prison sentence.

... he initially claimed he had been approached by a man "shouting and screaming" about local and national matters, including a local swing bridge and immigration.

https://news.sky.com/story/mike-amesbury-mp-jailed-for-punching-constituent-in-street-walks-free-after-appealing-prison-sentence-13317984

And was prosecuted, as the article says. And also had to stop being an MP and was I think thrown out of the party. And was widely condemned including by his colleagues. You didn't have Labour MPs and spokespeople arguing in TV that it wasn't a big deal it insinuating his victim deserved it somehow. Quite the opposite

There are violent people everywhere. Including violent young people and violent old people and in any large group. What is different in Reforms case is the reaction from the other people in the room including the leader of the party at the time and afterwards.

If someone in my social circle, political party, friendship group, church attacked someone that doesn't automatically reflect on me. If I defend it/think it's funny or justified then it does.

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 19:52

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 19:41

Politicians punching people? Well yes, you had to go back 25 years.

This Labour MP was convicted of punching a constituent to the ground last year;

Feb 2025
MP jailed for punching constituent in street walks free after appealing against prison sentence.

... he initially claimed he had been approached by a man "shouting and screaming" about local and national matters, including a local swing bridge and immigration.

https://news.sky.com/story/mike-amesbury-mp-jailed-for-punching-constituent-in-street-walks-free-after-appealing-prison-sentence-13317984

Suspended from the party. Charged. Convicted. Let’s hope Reform acts as quickly. Remind me what this has to do with a group of people beating up a woman.

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 19:41

BackToLurk · 09/09/2026 10:45

How unusual what is?

Politicians punching people? Well yes, you had to go back 25 years.

Reform members beating up women? Only need to go back a few days.

Politicians punching people? Well yes, you had to go back 25 years.

This Labour MP was convicted of punching a constituent to the ground last year;

Feb 2025
MP jailed for punching constituent in street walks free after appealing against prison sentence.

... he initially claimed he had been approached by a man "shouting and screaming" about local and national matters, including a local swing bridge and immigration.

https://news.sky.com/story/mike-amesbury-mp-jailed-for-punching-constituent-in-street-walks-free-after-appealing-prison-sentence-13317984

Clavinova · 09/09/2026 19:26

marlboro · 09/09/2026 10:24

You’ve been bringing up other parties which are completely different situations to women being violently assaulted by a mob.
you were absolutely using darvo and now you’ve been caught out you’re rewriting history

now you’ve been caught out you’re rewriting history

What do you mean? I don't think I expressed an opinion on the incidents in the conference hall on this thread.

Fortheloveoffrogs · 09/09/2026 19:14

hattie43 · 09/09/2026 06:06

Well here’s the thing . Don’t disrupt and enrage people and the chances are you won’t get your hair pulled .

So you think that assaulting her was ok? Are you on glue?

CreativeGreen · 09/09/2026 19:09

CovenOfCheeses · 09/09/2026 18:14

I have no say in whether they were guilty or not, only the people of Clacton should decide whether a woman is beaten for saying something that a man disagrees with. Are you questioning democracy?

I think this one is a better parody than some we’ve seen on the thread 😉

Shakeoffyourchains · 09/09/2026 18:20

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 15:03

My posting habits are totally irrelevant. I type quickly. I learned to touch type aged 18. I think quickly so I respond immediately. I'm semi retired, spend quite a bit of time at home so have time on my hands. I post on many threads, relationships, weight loss, and offer my opinion/device. You don't own the forum but you seem to think you've got a right to try and embarrass me into suggesting I'm up to something. Do you do the same to other posters. Once and for all, I am NOT am a troll, a Reform party member, Katie Hopkins! You can try and be clever and throw something out there and then deny it. I'm not going to be bullied by a group of posters into stopping posting because my views are unpopular.

Didn't ask for your life story, thanks. Also don't know why you'd be embarrassed by your own posting history?

Again, it not that your views are unpopular, it's that you refuse to defend them. I've asked questions of you in various threads of late and you've either deflected or ignored them.

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 18:16

CovenOfCheeses · 09/09/2026 18:14

I have no say in whether they were guilty or not, only the people of Clacton should decide whether a woman is beaten for saying something that a man disagrees with. Are you questioning democracy?

Democracy does not mean local people decide if a man can beat a woman.
What you are referring to is mob rule. Loved by thugs everywhere

CovenOfCheeses · 09/09/2026 18:14

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 18:05

@covenofcheeses so you think the women deserved to be assaulted by men for saying something the men did not like?

I have no say in whether they were guilty or not, only the people of Clacton should decide whether a woman is beaten for saying something that a man disagrees with. Are you questioning democracy?

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 18:05

@covenofcheeses so you think the women deserved to be assaulted by men for saying something the men did not like?

CovenOfCheeses · 09/09/2026 17:58

Warmlight1 · 08/09/2026 21:41

To want to send out support to the two women visibly assaulted at a political conference.
I am concerned about the other protesters too and actually anyone who was hurt. But having to listen to jeering from the podium plus the crowd chanting in live TV at the same time must have been so traumatic and the publicity will die down and coverage move on but that can't be easy. Just want to send love and support.

They were impinging on Nigel’s right to free speech and had no business in doing so. They took the risk and should accept the consequences. The courts, the political ombudsmen and protestors have no right to challenge Nigel, only the wise and good people of Clacton should decide whether Nigel was guilty or not.

Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 17:55

Everanewbie · 09/09/2026 15:11

It is disappointment because I agree with their policies, but can't vote for thugs.

Agree about the thugs element. TBF I don't think one can.judge any party by how a minority of their members behave. I am sure there are people in The Green party, Labour the Conservatives etc who have done bad things. What really shocked me was Farage's reaction to it in the moment (chuckling away on stage) and then his and others reaction in the aftermath. I think I have different political views to you but TBF if he had, as the woman was grabbed, asked them to lay of or something he would have.cone across as gracious/a bit dignified. There are people I disagree politically with whose character I like (Widdicombe, to an extent Badenoch).

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/09/2026 17:53

soddingspiderseason · 09/09/2026 17:19

Some of my older staff, in their late 60s do this and that was the reason they gave - that they were taught to do it at school. Maybe it’s different in different areas? And the age profile of Reform voters is that they are older. Younger people tend to be less right wing. This doesn’t mean that everyone who is older votes Reform, just that it’s proportionally more likely than if someone is younger.

I have never seen a space before a comma at school or in the years when I worked as a secretary or at university or as a teacher.

Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 17:49

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:32

I could point out many posters who do the exact thing you've just highlighted but I won't because I don't believe in targeting posters.

I have made it clear I don't agree with violence on idiots who gain entry to conferences through deceitful means. I'm not going to post in a style that goes against my beliefs. Simple.

And none of them deserve to be attacked either. Neither did the woman and I am glad you agree with that. That fact sort of renders all the other points about her character/intelligence levels irrelevant though doesn't it?

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 17:40

Ihateboris · 09/09/2026 17:36

Exactly. I can guarantee that Andy Burnham or Kemi Badenoch wouldn't have agreed, and certainly wouldn't have laughed at the heckler.

I totally agree.
It's about intimidation. Intimidate women by physically assaulting them so they won't disagree with reform in public again. And to try to scare anyone else who might have been thinking about publicly disagreeing or heckling.

Ihateboris · 09/09/2026 17:36

OneLilacHedgehog · 09/09/2026 14:15

Heckling is not a crime and every party conference has at least one heckler. No other party apart from reform has seen hecklers attacked and the leadership agreed with the attack.

Exactly. I can guarantee that Andy Burnham or Kemi Badenoch wouldn't have agreed, and certainly wouldn't have laughed at the heckler.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/09/2026 17:32

Persephonia1966 · 09/09/2026 16:34

You have every right to post on Mumsnet as often as you wish.
Sometimes your posts come across as combative/disruptive and even, dare I say it, like heckling? You have every right to do this of course. There is just a strong irony that this thread is about whether or not it is acceptable to hit a woman with a stick and grab her by the throat for being combative and heckling. And here you are being quite combative/repetitive on the thread. Not attacking you. I just think it's ironic.

I could point out many posters who do the exact thing you've just highlighted but I won't because I don't believe in targeting posters.

I have made it clear I don't agree with violence on idiots who gain entry to conferences through deceitful means. I'm not going to post in a style that goes against my beliefs. Simple.

soddingspiderseason · 09/09/2026 17:19

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/09/2026 16:49

I went to school in the 60s and I was not taught to put spaces in punctuation like that, neither do I support Reform.

Some of my older staff, in their late 60s do this and that was the reason they gave - that they were taught to do it at school. Maybe it’s different in different areas? And the age profile of Reform voters is that they are older. Younger people tend to be less right wing. This doesn’t mean that everyone who is older votes Reform, just that it’s proportionally more likely than if someone is younger.

SevenYellowHammers · 09/09/2026 17:04

CreativeGreen · 09/09/2026 12:54

Let's try again, and maybe this will be clearer. They were there to object. I'm sure they expected to be removed, and that is par for the course in situations like this. I doubt they thought 'I hope Reform bash us with sticks and pull our hair, that will be great'. But since that was indeed the way Reform responded, it does end up showing them for what they are.

So, cynically, from the protestors’ point of view, job done? True Reform colours shown. You’d think they’d be a bit more on the case. They really are in the “not very good club”.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/09/2026 16:49

soddingspiderseason · 09/09/2026 12:01

Its an age thing. People who went to school in the 1960s were taught to put spaces before and after punctuation. Older people are more likely to support Reform.

I went to school in the 60s and I was not taught to put spaces in punctuation like that, neither do I support Reform.

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